Hamas refuses to allow UN schools to teach about Holocaust
Regina @ Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:03 am
Spaniard Spaniard:
Personally I think all numbers given by the Majority of all world renowned Historians and writes are inaccurate Bacque included. Try using better sources then Stephen Ambrose how's Classified a Plagiarist.
It's a proven fact the Majority of all American historians concerning WW II accounts are inaccurate embellished cover-up Lies. Ambrose was the biographer of U.S. President Eisenhower and his review had a hidden agenda and should not be taken seriously nor a credible source. Numerous reports and evidence have continued to surface through the years documenting long time patterns of falsification, plagiarism, and inaccuracies in his Books ect.
Your person opinion is irrelevant in the eyes of historians who use multiple primary sources to draw a conclusion or make statements. They would also never drag out some no name "novelist" to endorse their agenda nor would they go to the internet to source data. Next thing we know you'll drag Dresden into the WC folder.
It's a proven fact the Majority of all American historians concerning WW II accounts are inaccurate embellished cover-up Lies.You don't count as proof.
Thanos @ Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:52 pm
The last I looked the record stands at about 2 million ethnic Germans who died from 1945 to 1947 as the Soviets forcibly evicted them from their old enclaves in Poland, parts of the Volga basin and, most notably, East Prussia. Not pleasant by any stretch of the imagination but permanently ending ethinc co-mingling, along with Russian military hegemony over the entire region enforcing the peace for the next forty-five years, successfully put an end to centuries of fighting and repeated attempts at genocide between Germans and Slavs. There's not much evidence at all to suggest that, even at the height of the brutality of World War 2, this sort of incredible 'racial' animosity existed at the same level in the West between Germans and French, or between Germans and English. If the vengeful French didn't murder a couple of million captured Germans, in light of it being completely understandable if they had wanted to, then claiming that the Americans 'factually' did is just a pile of incredibly vicious lies.
Did a lot of German troops die in Allied custody? Probably. But as a matter of deliberate policy personally laid out by Dwight Eisenhower? The idea reeks of the usual bullshit that one can find (as already indicated by others) at Stormfront, IHR, and Rense. Just pointless smearing, decades after the fact, by those dipshits whose other favourite internet hobby is usually Holocaust denial.
Thanos Thanos:
Did a lot of German troops die in Allied custody? Probably. But as a matter of deliberate policy personally laid out by Dwight Eisenhower? The idea reeks of the usual bullshit that one can find (as already indicated by others) at Stormfront, IHR, and Rense. Just pointless smearing, decades after the fact, by those dipshits whose other favourite internet hobby is usually Holocaust denial.
Ding, Ding, Ding! The minute it becomes the "official" account by "historians", you know it's going to be followed up by, "the truth is out there, and i'm the only one that can find it". You're right, it's revisionist horsh*t pushed by the uneducated.
Mustang1 Mustang1:
And you thought our little thing Z from the HT forums was gone. Nope.

He's baaaaaaaaack.
Damn, spoke too soon.
Spaniard Spaniard:
It's a proven fact the Majority of all American historians concerning WW II accounts are inaccurate embellished cover-up Lies.
Abraham Lincoln once said that near all of the facts posted on the net were fictional.
DerbyX @ Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:11 pm
And he hunts vampires and everybody knows you should trust vampire hunters. 
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
Sad fact. German POWs held in America got treated better than black US servicemen.
Which was not necessarily perfect, mind you.
In the military cemetary at Benicia, California there are the graves of seven Germans. Officially, they died of accidental causes. Unofficially, they were executed for trying to escape.
The official record is for fifteen Germans and one Italian being buried there, yet there are only seven graves.


The disposition of the missing eight remains a mystery.
Blacks were treated horribly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Chicago_disasterAnd German POWs were frequently treated to USO shows and the black American soldiers had to sit
behind them.
In Clarksburg are the remains of the German POW camp:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UT ... 6&t=h&z=17German soldiers interned here worked on area farms during the day as forced labor (compensated at anywhere from 1c to 5c per day) and one of my friends, Dave Wilson of Wilson Vineyards, recalls being a teenager and working with the Germans. His mother, over the protests of the guards, insisted on providing water and food for the men the same as she did for the paid Mexican laborers. According to Dave one of the Germans escaped to Stockton and was captured, returned to the camp, and executed. That soldier is supposed to be buried at Benicia yet I've never found the name in any records although Dave has a picture of the man, a 'Fred' (Frederich?) Kessler - he's apparently Wehrmacht given his uniform and I cannot distinguish his rank but I can tell he's enlisted given the absence of collar boards.
DerbyX @ Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:23 pm
Begs the question that if we executed recaptured POWs and no war crime trials were had then any and all allied POWs executed by Nazi forces were valid. The Malmedy massacre for example was thus a valid action
DerbyX DerbyX:
Begs the question that if we executed recaptured POWs and no war crime trials were had then any and all allied POWs executed by Nazi forces were valid. The Malmedy massacre for example was thus a valid action
The POWs at Malmedy weren't shot cuz they escaped. They were murdered in cold blood before they even had a chance to be processed. In that particular instance, it was done for the sake of expediency. German troops in the Ardennes were not to stop or slow down for anything. Apparently, elements of the 1st SS Panzers took it to heart. Besides, retribution was paid in full. After Malmedy, the chances of a surrendering SS trooper making to a POW cage alive were drastically reduced for a while.
Both sides were guilty of it. As I said previously, the Airborne troops that landed in Normandy to kick off the assault weren't taking prisoners either, as per their orders.
Primarily because they simply had no place to put 'em. Another case of expediency.
Admittedly, shooting German POWs that had escaped in America was kinda pointless really. Where the hell where they gonna go?