Canada Kicks Ass
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Zenfisher @ Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:41 am

As Mulroney left as much or more debt than Trudeau...wouldn't we still be paying off Mulroney's debt?

   



Zenfisher @ Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:11 am

Yes pay down the debt at the expense of CPP. So there would be nothing left in the retirement funds.

   



Rev_Blair @ Thu Oct 28, 2004 6:58 am

The debt rose more under Mulroney than under anybody else, Godz. That's a fact, go look it up.

Governments sign trade deals all of the time to open up other markets or bring affordable goods into their markets. That's why we have trade deals between governments. That's a fact, look it up.

Trade between the US and Canada grew faster before the FTA and NAFTA. That's a fact, look it up.

Check the usual polling companies. They all ran them and the results were all the same. Look it up.

Apparently you were still crapping in your pants when Mulroney lost western Canada. That's where the Reform Party came from. You can look that up but while you are consider that Stephen Harper was so pissed off at Mulroney that he took his bat and ball and went home. Later he got all huffy and walked away from the Reform Party too, compelling Preston Manning to call Harper, "A quitter." You really should look that up...it will give you an idea of the kind of pig-fucker you're cheering for. :lol:

Meech Lake was opposed by many people for many reasons but all those reasons point to the same thing...it was a severely flawed deal that alienated much of Canada, including first nations people. Look it up.

Mulroney did cut military sending. That's not open for argument, it's all in the books. Look it up.

Bush and Kerry are tied in the polls and running neck and neck when it comes to the electoral college. Slandering John Kerry only shows you to be a ridiculously moronic as George Bush.

You have never said one positive thing about his country, Godz. Your stupid line about latte drinking leftists from Toronto shows how completely disconnected you are from reality. Here's an uncomfortable little fact for you, my racist friend, I like normal coffee, I live in Winnipeg, I was raised mostly in Saskatchewan. The province you live in has consistently voted in the Parti Quebecois, a left leaning party, for two terms, then the Liberals for one term.

Most Canadians, when asked about our greatest achievements point to medi-care. That was an NDP (left-leaning party) idea that was brought in by a Conservative government because the Canadian people demanded it.

So you can sit there in your left-leaning province, inside your left-leaning country and spew your hateful bullshit about how everything American is better. You can pretend that don't hate Canada as you plan to move to the US in search of the greenback dollar. You mutter and sputter and promote your lies all you want. Don't let the door hit you in ass on the way out though, little buddy, and seriously consider signing up for the US military. Put your ass on the line for the country that you love so much.

   



Rev_Blair @ Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:00 pm

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Yes, government sign the trade deals. But its the Private Businesses that cary out the actual trading, so you'll have to convince them. Good Luck!!!


Private businesses will go where the money is. Look it up.

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Actually the Reform Party was born AFTER he went out of politics.


Apparently you have no clue about history. Did you think they just formed one day? They spent years, literally, building up support. There were meetings, public and private, and even the Alberta/Western Report magazines were formed to promote the party before it ever became a party. I know because I was there when it was happening. You'll have to look it up though.

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Actually it was backed by 8 out of 10 Provinces, it conly failed in Manitoba due to a fillibuster. So technically it was backed by the majority of people.


Actually most people say they were glad to see it fail. It was another massively devisive plan by Mulroney. JJ Harper had the political will to stand up against it with the backing of native leaders from across the country.

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NOPE.


The young conservatives are not exactly an unbiased source, bud. I just watched an afternoon full of polls with an actual political scientist who specialises in Canada-US relations and US politics (he's a Conservative BTW...works for the federal party). He was pointing out that it's so close that even the partisan pundits, when the question is put to them on television, hedge their bets. They are trying to promote their favourites by saying they will win, but nobody with any knowledge of politics is predicting a landslide. The professional pollsters aren't even guessing anymore, just putting the numbers up.

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Yes I have, check the entertainment thread.


Entertainers are not the entire country and you ignore and deny what this country's laws have done for them.

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I was being Sarcastic in a way. I was just using the stereotype of Leftists in this country. I did'nt mean to say that all leftists drink latee. As a matter of fact, I doubt most of them would be able to afford it.


I doubt you can afford shoes. That's okay though...you'd likely put them on the wrong feet, then have to get somebody to tie them up for you. I'm using a stereotype there...I mean that in a very personal way.

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Actually the Liberals have ruled more than the part Quebecois in the last 20 years (8 years to 12) The leader of the Liberals is ex-PC MP Jean Charest. And thanks to the popular CHOI radio which has 2 conservative mourning show DJ's the ADQ (The right-wing party in Quebec Politics) is surging.


Every reliable source shows the PQ winning the next election, and it sure as hell isn't because they want to separate. I didn't see the Reform/Alliance/Conservatives winning a lot of seats there in the Federal election either. You can look that up though.

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Oh sure, left-leaning country, let's see the polls on capital punishment, abortion, taxes, two-tiered health care, military and missile defense shield! You claim that the LiEberals are really a right-wing party, in that case Canadians sure as hell like to elect right-wingers more than left ones (If you include the number of seats the Conservatives also have).


Yeah, have a look at the polls, not the twisted crooked ones you like to quote, but the real ones that ask honest questions. Canadians are against the Conservatives plan for abortion. Canadians are against capital punishment. Canadians are more interested in seeing their social programs preserved and/or the debt reduced than tax reduction. Canadians want universal healthcare. Canadians want a military that is involved in UN-backed peacekeeping missions. Canadians want no part of BMD or the weaponisation of space.

You already tried your twisted poll on abortion and I showed you to be wrong. I can do it with the other issues too, if you want.

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If I ever join the US military,


No if's, my little Muslim-hating fiend, you've claimed that you are more than willing to go to war for the United States. Go sign up. Or admit that you are all talk and no action...a coward.

   



Zenfisher @ Thu Oct 28, 2004 11:55 pm

If you put a Canadian pin on a US service uniform...the likelyhood is that you will be courtmarshalled.I've looked in to dual citizenship down here. It isn't possible anymore. The US goverment insists you swear allegiance to America only. It is part of the reason that is holding me back from becoming a citizen down here.

   



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