Quebec Sovereignty: what is new?

[QUOTE]Maybe it's the same in Bretagne, I don't know. [/QUOTE] But I have been on the coast and everywhere in Bretagne, even in "Le Finistère", a remote area in the centre. The language seems to be non existent. Anyway, to me, there is no comparison between the situation in Bretagne and Quebec.

Tonight is the Grand Première of the release of the movie "NOUVELLE-FRANCE" (New France) in all cinemas in Quebec! It is an epic movie with a love story, happening circa 1760, during the time of the Conquest. It is a Quebec-France-Great-Britain co-production. Those who still argue that we are not distinct should really see that movie. ARE YOU HERE DINO? O.K., I haven't seen it yet, but I believe the Conquerors are not depicted as angels... Anyway folks, I am going tonight at the first show and will update you tomorrow on this! Cheers, Delenda.

Here is the website for the movie NOUVELLE-FRANCE http://www.filmnouvellefrance.com/

You know my views Delenda, but I'll check it out and see if it's playing in any theatres where I live. If it is I'll definately go see it, Cheers!

I am just back from the movie NOUVELLE FRANCE. I don't want to say too much because most of the people haven't seen it. However, I was a bit disappointed. It had to do with the fact that a FRENCH PARISIAN accent was used. Even our Quebec actors were putting on a French accent. I didn't feel any connection to what our society might have been some 250 years ago. Some actors were mumbling in a Parisian accent and were very hard to understand. French Canadians came from Normandy and Brittany and the accent was carried over here, albeit with some variations. Plus, the British spoke French, so it was not historically correct. Anyway, the story was good, with melodrama like love, betrayal, violence, war, jealousy, greed, etc. My verdict : ** 1/2

[QUOTE BY= Delenda Carthago] I am just back from the movie NOUVELLE FRANCE. I don't want to say too much because most of the people haven't seen it. However, I was a bit disappointed. It had to do with the fact that a FRENCH PARISIAN accent was used. Even our Quebec actors were putting on a French accent. I didn't feel any connection to what our society might have been some 250 years ago. Some actors were mumbling in a Parisian accent and were very hard to understand. French Canadians came from Normandy and Brittany and the accent was carried over here, albeit with some variations. Plus, the British spoke French, so it was not historically correct. Anyway, the story was good, with melodrama like love, betrayal, violence, war, jealousy, greed, etc. My verdict : ** 1/2 [/QUOTE] yeah but it was a france-quebec production, and since french dont understand us when we talk, they had to done that, or translate the movie from old canadian french to modern france french before screening it in france... i really want to see it anyway...

[QUOTE BY= Delenda Carthago] I am just back from the movie NOUVELLE FRANCE. Anyway, the story was good, with melodrama like love, betrayal, violence, war, jealousy, greed, etc. [/QUOTE] Sounds just like today. Why pay to see it? There should be transfer payments. <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/rolleyes.gif' alt='Rolling Eyes'> ?

[QUOTE BY= gaulois] [QUOTE BY= Delenda Carthago] I am just back from the movie NOUVELLE FRANCE. Anyway, the story was good, with melodrama like love, betrayal, violence, war, jealousy, greed, etc. [/QUOTE] Sounds just like today. Why pay to see it? There should be transfer payments. <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/rolleyes.gif' alt='Rolling Eyes'> ?[/QUOTE] <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/lol.gif' alt='Laughing Out Loud'> on a related topic, if you seek a book to read, i've just finished "le livre noir du canada anglais" by normand lester. interresting book, especially if you are interested in forgotten part of our history

I've read that book by Norman Lister, it was excellent and I don't think people should be even allowed to comment on separation until they've read it (it's available in english). He states in the book that he's working on a sequel, this was a number of years ago so I wonder if he's published it yet? One of the most interesting parts I found, being from New Brunswick, was reading about the genocidal Lord Monckton who was used to chase acadians from their land to starve in the woods, and whose favourite trick was giving natives the smallpox blankets (biological warfare anybody?). Now, we have the city of Moncton, and even more curiously, the University of Moncton which is a french university. Does life get more strange?

[QUOTE BY= Marcarc] I've read that book by Norman Lister, it was excellent and I don't think people should be even allowed to comment on separation until they've read it (it's available in english). He states in the book that he's working on a sequel, this was a number of years ago so I wonder if he's published it yet? One of the most interesting parts I found, being from New Brunswick, was reading about the genocidal Lord Monckton who was used to chase acadians from their land to starve in the woods, and whose favourite trick was giving natives the smallpox blankets (biological warfare anybody?). Now, we have the city of Moncton, and even more curiously, the University of Moncton which is a french university. Does life get more strange?[/QUOTE] I read the Black Book of English Canada, Tomes I, II and III. Columnists in the ROC have said that it is a distortion of history and most people seem to buy that. The ROC so wants to sugarcoat the past and rewrite history. I guess freedom of expression in Canada goes only one way: the federalist, anglo way. Somebody who makes anglo imperialism look bad will see his career ruined. For having written that book, Normand Lester HAS BEEN FIRED by our francophone "sell-outs" + Rabinovitch + Paul "Power Corporation" Desmarais + the federal liberals. Kudoos to Normand Lester for having stood up to the anglo establishment. What goes around comes around. English Canada wanted to destroy him and now, his books are selling extremely well in Quebec. Even in some classes, the book is mandatory.

[QUOTE BY= cathou79] [QUOTE BY= Marcarc] I've read that book by Norman Lister, it was excellent and I don't think people should be even allowed to comment on separation until they've read it (it's available in english). He states in the book that he's working on a sequel, this was a number of years ago so I wonder if he's published it yet? One of the most interesting parts I found, being from New Brunswick, was reading about the genocidal Lord Monckton who was used to chase acadians from their land to starve in the woods, and whose favourite trick was giving natives the smallpox blankets (biological warfare anybody?). Now, we have the city of Moncton, and even more curiously, the University of Moncton which is a french university. Does life get more strange?[/QUOTE] i didnt know that it was availaible in english... yes, the sequel is out... two sequel in fact. i've read tome 3 and i'm currently reading tome 1. tome 3 is 1980 to present, and i'm not sure on the period that is cover by the tome 2...[/QUOTE] Tome II is mostly about politics from 1950 to present, with an emphasis on the federal fraud in the 1995 referendum.

[QUOTE BY= cathou79] [QUOTE BY= Delenda Carthago] I am just back from the movie NOUVELLE FRANCE. I don't want to say too much because most of the people haven't seen it. However, I was a bit disappointed. It had to do with the fact that a FRENCH PARISIAN accent was used. Even our Quebec actors were putting on a French accent. I didn't feel any connection to what our society might have been some 250 years ago. Some actors were mumbling in a Parisian accent and were very hard to understand. French Canadians came from Normandy and Brittany and the accent was carried over here, albeit with some variations. Plus, the British spoke French, so it was not historically correct. Anyway, the story was good, with melodrama like love, betrayal, violence, war, jealousy, greed, etc. My verdict : ** 1/2 [/QUOTE] yeah but it was a france-quebec production, and since french dont understand us when we talk, they had to done that, or translate the movie from old canadian french to modern france french before screening it in france... i really want to see it anyway...[/QUOTE] I understand they want to sell in France, but Quebec movies are very popular in France, without even putting on a fake Parisian accent. They understand our accent very well (as long as there is not too much slang in it). Les Invasions Barbares was such a success and yet, it reflected our way of speaking. I think they could have used a perfectly acceptable French, with our local accent. Parisian French could have been limited to the establishment, like Depardieu who plays the curé, Vincent Perez who plays Bigot, Vaudreuil and some members of the high society. There was no credibility, to me, in the population having that accent and using those expressions like "tourner en bourrique" or "faire faux bond". The actor that played "Séraphin" I forgot his name, was not even understandable.

[QUOTE BY= Delenda Carthago] [QUOTE BY= cathou79] [QUOTE BY= Delenda Carthago] I am just back from the movie NOUVELLE FRANCE. I don't want to say too much because most of the people haven't seen it. However, I was a bit disappointed. It had to do with the fact that a FRENCH PARISIAN accent was used. Even our Quebec actors were putting on a French accent. I didn't feel any connection to what our society might have been some 250 years ago. Some actors were mumbling in a Parisian accent and were very hard to understand. French Canadians came from Normandy and Brittany and the accent was carried over here, albeit with some variations. Plus, the British spoke French, so it was not historically correct. Anyway, the story was good, with melodrama like love, betrayal, violence, war, jealousy, greed, etc. My verdict : ** 1/2 [/QUOTE] yeah but it was a france-quebec production, and since french dont understand us when we talk, they had to done that, or translate the movie from old canadian french to modern france french before screening it in france... i really want to see it anyway...[/QUOTE] I understand they want to sell in France, but Quebec movies are very popular in France, without even putting on a fake Parisian accent. They understand our accent very well (as long as there is not too much slang in it). Les Invasions Barbares was such a success and yet, it reflected our way of speaking. I think they could have used a perfectly acceptable French, with our local accent. Parisian French could have been limited to the establishment, like Depardieu who plays the curé, Vincent Perez who plays Bigot, Vaudreuil and some members of the high society. There was no credibility, to me, in the population having that accent and using those expressions like "tourner en bourrique" or "faire faux bond". The actor that played "Séraphin" I forgot his name, was not even understandable. [/QUOTE] pierre lebeau... anyway, my love just ask me to go see it tongiht, so i will be able to understand what you mean for the language tommorrow <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/biggrin.gif' alt='Big Grin'>

[QUOTE BY= Macdonald/Borden] You know my views Delenda, but I'll check it out and see if it's playing in any theatres where I live. If it is I'll definately go see it, Cheers! [/QUOTE] i just read in the newspaper that the film was shot in french and english. So you will probably be able to see it, and it will not be a translation...