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Why The World Needs Nuclear Power

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Jin-Gitaxias @ Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:53 am

Hi Everyone. Today I want to talk about nuclear power and why the world needs it.

First of all, we need to accept that carbon-biased fuels are destroying us. Global warming is real and human-caused. We poisoned the water in the First Nations reservations with the Tar Sands. It's time for us to stop that.

Nuclear Power is better anyways. Uranium produces over 1,000,000 times more energy than coal. There is plenty of uranium under Canadian soil. We could use this Uranium to become extremely powerful.

Another Thing: We need to get off oil so that we can give Saudi Arabia a well-deserved embargo. I'm not talking about limiting trade. I think that ALL trade between Saudi Arabia and the west needs to be cut off. King Salman of Saudi Arabia is one of the most evil human beings ever to exist. He doesn't deserve to be an ally of the west. Saudi Arabia also need to pay for the death of Nimr Al-Nimr.

If we do not switch to nuclear power then we will always be under Saudi control.

   



DrCaleb @ Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:10 am

Your argument is a little simplistic. Nuclear power also doesn't do many of the things we need.

It can't, for example, supply the quick ups and downs of peak power usage times. It doesn't cycle that fast. That's why Chinas' plan for increasing power was to first build coal plants, then phase them out as nuclear plants were finished, but couple the nuclear with hydroelectric 'batteries' to take the peak surges that occur daily.

But I agree, nuclear needs to be part of any green energy strategy.

   



Jin-Gitaxias @ Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:45 am

Saudi Arabia is the most oppressive Islamic dictatorship on the planet. Most of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis. The Saudis have gotten away with it because they have us by the oil pipe.

King Salman is a rotten trickster who has gotten away with atrocities. His sons are a bunch of pigs who hang around with strippers even though most Saudi men are stuck with women in burqas. The Saudi Royals also have ties to Fox News.

   



DrCaleb @ Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:47 am

. . . because Nuclear power!

   



Public_Domain @ Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:52 am

Thorium.

I wish Bernie would support nuclear.

Sadly it's political poison among most old environmentalists...

   



Jin-Gitaxias @ Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:55 am

DrCaleb DrCaleb:
. . . because Nuclear power!

Saudi Arabia is relevant here. They control us because we need their oil.

   



DrCaleb @ Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:57 am

Jin-Gitaxias Jin-Gitaxias:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
. . . because Nuclear power!

Saudi Arabia is relevant here. They control us because we need their oil.


Canada doesn't import one drop of Saudi Oil, and the Saudis don't control our policy of energy generation.

   



DrCaleb @ Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:59 am

Public_Domain Public_Domain:
Thorium.


Even Uranium, if we had some fast breeder reactors.

   



Thanos @ Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:08 am

DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Jin-Gitaxias Jin-Gitaxias:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
. . . because Nuclear power!

Saudi Arabia is relevant here. They control us because we need their oil.


Canada doesn't import one drop of Saudi Oil, and the Saudis don't control our policy of energy generation.


Persian Gulf, Venezuelan, and Nigerian oil goes through the Irving docks in Halifax on a regular basis. US oil goes north via railway (see Lac Megantic) to the refinery in Montreal. About a quarter million barrels per day total of American oil enter Canada through rail and pipeline. A huge portion of oil used in eastern and central Canada comes from foreign sources, all simply because of the failure of multiple Canadian governments to get a pipeline built from Alberta to Ontario and Quebec. Thanks to the current environmentalist-placating antics of the Ontario and Quebec provincial governments this situation is unlikely to change any time in the future.

   



Lemmy @ Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:16 am

Nuclear power has its advantages. In Ontario, however, nuclear power has been a black hole for taxpayer dollars. The massive investment and upkeep/refurbishment costs for nuclear power, coupled with organizational corruption and inefficiency in the old Ontario Hydro and its current incarnations, are the primary reason Ontarians face the highest electricity costs and highest provincial debt of any province in the country.

Nuclear works great, but Ontario has gone broke to have it.

   



Delwin @ Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:17 am

Why would we build a pipeline for oil that is only viable to extract at $100+ a barrel ? So it can sit unused whenever the Saudi's decide to up production ? Illogical. The only reason would be to create security for a failed industry. We would be forced to subsidize oil production to justify the costs of the project and we would have a new brand of roughneck welfare.

   



DrCaleb @ Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:19 am

Thanos Thanos:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Jin-Gitaxias Jin-Gitaxias:
Saudi Arabia is relevant here. They control us because we need their oil.


Canada doesn't import one drop of Saudi Oil, and the Saudis don't control our policy of energy generation.


Persian Gulf, Venezuelan, and Nigerian oil goes through the Irving docks in Halifax on a regular basis. US oil goes north via railway (see Lac Megantic) to the refinery in Montreal. About a quarter million barrels per day total of American oil enter Canada through rail and pipeline. A huge portion of oil used in eastern and central Canada comes from foreign sources, all simply because of the failure of multiple Canadian governments to get a pipeline built from Alberta to Ontario and Quebec. Thanks to the current environmentalist-placating antics of the Ontario and Quebec provincial governments this situation is unlikely to change any time in the future.


Last time I looked, Eastern companies were importing from Venezuela or North Sea crude. While no one really knows the source of the oil, and there may be Saudi oil in the mix, I doubt it's intentional given the overproduction happening in North America right now. The Kochs are even starting to demand payment to take oil in their refineries! How sad is it that a barrel costs more than the oil in it? ;)

But it still stands that the Saudis have very little influence in Canada, especially WRT nuclear power.

   



DrCaleb @ Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:20 am

Delwin Delwin:
Why would we build a pipeline for oil that is only viable to extract at $100+ a barrel ? So it can sit unused whenever the Saudi's decide to up production ? Illogical.


Oilsands oil is viable starting around $30. Right now it's going for about $15. And the main reason to use synthetic crude is it costs less to refine, given many impurities are already removed.

   



DrCaleb @ Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:21 am

Lemmy Lemmy:
Nuclear power has its advantages. In Ontario, however, nuclear power has been a black hole for taxpayer dollars. The massive investment and upkeep/refurbishment costs for nuclear power, coupled with organizational corruption and inefficiency in the old Ontario Hydro and its current incarnations, are the primary reason Ontarians face the highest electricity costs and highest provincial debt of any province in the country.

Nuclear works great, but Ontario has gone broke to have it.


^^ This. Be more like France and Japan, less like Ontario.

   



Delwin @ Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:27 am

DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Delwin Delwin:
Why would we build a pipeline for oil that is only viable to extract at $100+ a barrel ? So it can sit unused whenever the Saudi's decide to up production ? Illogical.


Oilsands oil is viable starting around $30. Right now it's going for about $15. And the main reason to use synthetic crude is it costs less to refine, given many impurities are already removed.
Where are you getting these figures ?

I have:
$1:
If we look at CNRL’s operations at Horizon, we can get a good sense of the value of a pure play in this space—through the third quarter of 2014, before the oil price crash really took hold, the operating costs for synthetic crude oil production at Horizon were $38.31 per barrel.


And
$1:
With cash operating costs of $34.45 per barrel for its oil sands operations, Suncor has retained a healthy cash margin through the downturn.


These are just operating costs, like if they wanted to operate as a charity.

http://www.macleans.ca/economy/economic ... oil-sands/

   



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