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President Ronald Reagan dies

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TheFixer @ Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:36 am

And dont send me any more surly, half-assed-intimidating notes, Rev - I keep the latest story quiet, only out of respect for our former friendship.
Don't press me, okay?


I'm not Wing; I'm not going to lose control and let emotion take hold. You're pretty good - I've told you that before.




Please do tell what kind of messages Rev has sent? we could all use a good laugh.

   



Rev_Blair @ Mon Jun 07, 2004 4:28 am

It was a private message asking Non-Rev not to bring crap from another board over here. Apparently he read it but didn't understand it. He's a little fuzzy on the concept of private messages being private too...I knew that when I wrote it though and expected little from him.

Reagan has been effectively dead for years, so I really doubt that the mourning of those who never met the man is terribly sincere anyway, especially those who were against him when he was in power. Their hypocrisy shows in the way they suddenly gloss over all the bad things the man did.

   



Twila @ Mon Jun 07, 2004 8:51 am

Have we had our moment of silence then?
Lest we forget.....
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=18874

   



polemarch1 @ Mon Jun 07, 2004 9:36 am

DUTCH COURAGE

   



karra @ Tue Jun 08, 2004 3:02 pm

oops

   



karra @ Tue Jun 08, 2004 3:03 pm

$1:
It was a private message asking Non-Rev not to bring crap from another board over here. Apparently he read it but didn't understand it. He's a little fuzzy on the concept of private messages being private too...I knew that when I wrote it though and expected little from him.

So knowing what you knew you still wrote it and continue to slag him knowing all of that, right? Sheesh!

$1:
Reagan has been effectively dead for years, so I really doubt that the mourning of those who never met the man is terribly sincere anyway, especially those who were against him when he was in power. Their hypocrisy shows in the way they suddenly gloss over all the bad things the man did.

So has someone else who I won't name at the moment. An all time low was reached by you know who. Btw, there is no mourning taking place, nor celebrations. Why it's almost as if one never existed. Two funerals in order per chance?

   



Rev_Blair @ Tue Jun 08, 2004 6:48 pm

$1:
So knowing what you knew you still wrote it and continue to slag him knowing all of that, right? Sheesh!


Yes, Karra, and I know exactly what I wrote, the context that it was in, and that he was likely to try to use it out of context in order to try to shut me up. I knew you'd be attacking me over it too. Some people are very predictable. Maybe you two should get hooked up?

Dutch weas little more than a common criminal, a murderer and a thief.

   



karra @ Tue Jun 08, 2004 6:57 pm

$1:
Yes, Karra, and I know exactly what I wrote, the context that it was in, and that he was likely to try to use it out of context in order to try to shut me up. I knew you'd be attacking me over it too.

When I think of the delight you wallowed in at the banning of wing - well, I'm sure you understand I feel no remorse and that I have a better understanding as to your pathetic personality than most.

   



Rev_Blair @ Tue Jun 08, 2004 7:41 pm

:roll:

   



Donny_Brasco @ Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:39 am

I'm agreeing with Rev and taking one more step. Reagan was a moron and a criminal. Remember his forgetfulness over such things as the Iran
Contra affair?

Remember his statement "We start Bombing in 5 minutes" while talking about the USSR that caused the Ruskies to go to their highest level of alert ever.

$1:
My fellow Americans, I have just signed a law outlawing
Russia, We start bombing in five minutes...


It was funny, but who'd be laughing when some trigger happy Ivan sent a missile over our heads toward Washington.

And how about Grenada...invading a tiny country because the heat at home was getting bad.

Good riddance to guys like Reagan and Nixon. Why is the world so quick to forgive and forget people who made the rest of our lives uncertain.

   



Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:01 am

I really hate all this praise reagen is getting. His central america policy was shitty, and he was just another Christian nut who everyone gives credit for winning the cold war. NATO had a much bigger impact in winning the cold war than Reagen putting a few missles in some countries. Unlike most of you though, I'm not going to sit and enjoy the death of someone. I didn't agree with his politics, but I'm not as heartless of a basterd to enjoy the death of someone and say good riddance.

   



Rosco @ Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:45 am

NATO didn't do crap, the military power of European NATO nations other than maybe the U.K. and West Germany was laughable. The cruise missle issue was significant because it has since come to light that the Soviets did not distinguish between conventional and nuclear warfare and would have spearheaded any attack on West Europe with hundreds of tactical nuclear blasts even before their tanks started rolling over what was left of NATO's armies.

The hidden and mobile {much harder to find than the Iraqi Scuds of GW1} cruise missles Reagan ordered to be stationed in the relative safety of Italy and the U.K. meant that even in a worst case scenario enough firepower would remain in NATO's to spoil any Soviet attack, which pissed off the Soviet leadership of the time greatly since it robbed them of their big military trump card.

Anyways I think Reagan was by far the greatest American president since WW2 and I really wish the Reagan of 1980 was in the White House now instead of W.

   



Donny_Brasco @ Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:51 am

Rosco Rosco:
Anyways I think Reagan was by far the greatest American president since WW2 .


The best of the worst?

How about JFK? In my books JFK was 10 times better then any other president since then.

   



Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:20 pm

Rosco Rosco:
NATO didn't do crap, the military power of European NATO nations other than maybe the U.K. and West Germany was laughable. The cruise missle issue was significant because it has since come to light that the Soviets did not distinguish between conventional and nuclear warfare and would have spearheaded any attack on West Europe with hundreds of tactical nuclear blasts even before their tanks started rolling over what was left of NATO's armies.

The hidden and mobile {much harder to find than the Iraqi Scuds of GW1} cruise missles Reagan ordered to be stationed in the relative safety of Italy and the U.K. meant that even in a worst case scenario enough firepower would remain in NATO's to spoil any Soviet attack, which pissed off the Soviet leadership of the time greatly since it robbed them of their big military trump card.

Anyways I think Reagan was by far the greatest American president since WW2 and I really wish the Reagan of 1980 was in the White House now instead of W.


I'd have to disagree with you. I mean, we already had missles that could reach the soviet union. NATO provided the United States with "satallite" states you could say which while the Soviet Unions states fell apart, the US allies built up. France had Nukes before long, and Reagan putting a few missles here and there didn't win the war. A bad economic system was mainly to blame. I mean the US already had around 30-40% of the worlds wealth, while the Soviet Union only had around 12%. Alot of Reagans policies also have caused alot of nations to not like the US. It's like a terrorist attacks US interest in the middle east, and Reagan goes to war with Central America. Reagan also upped the Debt a trillion or so. I wouldn't say Reagan was the best president since world war 2, just someone who was full of speeches. I still won't go as far though to say good riddance and that I'm glad he's gone, I mean he was human and I respect the dead. Feel kind of bad that he had to die with that terrible disease. No one should have to suffer through that.

   



Rosco @ Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:39 pm

There's a difference between strategic nukes {which can't really be used against a mechanized army of the move} and NATO's tactical nukes that until the mobile missles went into service basically all of these sat in well known bases or stockpiles which would have been destroyed very or overrun very quickly by the Soviets.

The Soviet Union had something like 50% of the GDP of the U.S. for most of the Cold War, though their economy wasn't competitive as we would understand it.

Reagan deserves credit for leading the U.S. out of a long period of seemingly irreversable decline and whatever his flaws should be remembered for that.

   



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