WestJet vs. Air Canada

If I wanted to be entertained I'd go to the comedy fest. When I fly I expect the people to be professional I don't need a bunch of comedians giving me safety instructions and making a big joke out of it.

I noticed nobody addressed the fact that WestJet can fly to wherever they want as long as it's profitable. They cancelled service to Thompson Manitobia and another small community because they were not profitable.

This is something Air Canada could not do up until the first of this year because the government wouldn't allow them. It was part of the merger deal with Canadian. Some level playing field eh?

And of course no one cared to mention the fact that Air Canada is the only airline in Canada that has to provide bilingual service. This is costly because of the training and the paperwork is double.

Nobody mentioned the fact that because Air Canada pays more Nav Can fees that the other airlines in fact get a break because of it. If Air Canada went under the other airlines would have to pick up these extra NAV Can fees. Do you know what happens then? That's right ticket prices would go up on these no frillers.

Air Canada also is the biggest customer for the airports all over Canada helping these airports stay in business. Once again if Air Canada went under these no frillers would see their landing fees and gate fees rise in order for the airports to keep making a profit.

So rant about WestJet all you want the fact is they are doing a lot of their flying on the backs of the big giant who is still paying the bulk of the NAV Can fees and airport fees.

Of course the person who started this thread is bias plus he is leading everybody to believe all W/J employees are happy campers WHICH is not true. Some rumblings have started about forming unions because they are not happy.

Plus Clive has been cooking the books as was reported in an article I read last week. He was doing this by not calculating in the costs of doing heavy maintenance checks on his aircraft which are very expensive and are coming due!

What goes around comes around!

For the bias W/J employee I have a question. How good is the pension and the pay at W/J?

HOW ABOUT TELLING US WHAT YOUR JOB IS AND HOW MUCH CLIVE IS PAYING YOU!

How do you fly to Thompson now? When I was going there regularly it was still Canadian, and you could still see the influence of Ward Air. A Saab with big, wide seats and a flight attendant who could actually count change. I loved that Saab. If you sat on the left side you got an aisle and a window seat all at once and everybody was polite.

What do you do now? Hop on a Bearskin flight and hope?

RE::i don't see how u can complain about this...fist of all, they can now. so, why gripe? and besides, west jet is a private company is it not? so what is wrong with it servicing the cities it wants? you are saying "because air canada couldn't no one should be able to" that problem is with the gov't, not WJ.

That is not what I'm saying at all. I was pointing out the fact that up until the first of this year A/C COULD NOT cancel any routes because they were un-profitable! Some level playing field eh? And how much money did A/C lose having to provide service on un-profitable routes? And I bet you were one of the one's pointing fingers because A/C was not making money. Well I'm just trying to point out the reason why to pinheads like you!

As for the bilingual issue it is a fact no other airline in Canada has to provide bilingual services BUT A/C does. If you think for one minute this doesn't add extra expense your kidding yourself. Had anything printed lately? A/C has to do it twice!

Bottomline level the playing field and A/C can compete with anybody afterall they've done it for over 60 years EVEN WITH BAD MANAGEMENT!

Ah yes and then there is the competion bureau!!

A/C would lower their prices and Clive Beddoes would run to the competion bureau complaining!!!!

And he's the one who started the cut throat prices!!

HOW HYPOCRITIAL IS THAT?

RE::instead of bullshit posting and calling people names i suggest you grow up before you post again.

FACT!!!!!!

A/C would lower their prices and Clive Beddoes would run to the competion bureau complaining!!!!

And he's the one who started the cut throat prices!!

HOW HYPOCRITIAL IS THAT?

WONDERFUL!

Air Canada does not want any bailouts they want a level playing field so they can better compete.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ ... TopStories

These foolish government policies put additional costs of almost $800-million per year on the airlines and their customers. At least $350-million falls on Air Canada -- an amount exceeding the $200-million shortfall Air Canada is currently discussion with its unions.

Ottawa should immediately rescind the Air Canada Participation Act which forces Air Canada to maintain three maintenance facilities and subjects it to stringent official-language requirements

Cool link, CAGE! Learned something there.

So if AC does go, what are the chances that all those US cities it services would be picked up by American airlines?

Hi Robair. Don't know my friend but it would be a possibity the American airlines would pick them up.

No other airline in Canada has the capicity to do it unless our government gave them help in buying the shelved aircraft that a/c would leave behind.

Come on guys cripes were talking about a f4reakin airline company... why the flames back and forth???? Cool the jets... (lol nice pun huh??)

RE::either shut up or make useful posts. i'm tired of reading your upper case nonsense.

Here's a very simple solution. Just ignore my posts!

Easy isn't it?

Now Cagey, he has a point, no? Upper case shouldn't be necessary if you can express yourself adequately, oui?

You also have a point. No one is forcing anyone to read anything, nestpaw?

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