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fatbasturd @ Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:02 am

Shadowy object may be lost WWII submarine
Updated Thu. Oct. 5 2006 9:04 AM ET

Associated Press

ANCHORAGE, Alaska -- The underwater sonar images of a black shape against a grainy, monochrome background are the biggest clues in more than 60 years to the fate of Bruce Abele's father and the submarine he commanded during World War II.

For decades, relatives of the USS Grunion's 70 lost crewmen had no information beyond fragmented U.S. Navy records, and a few rumors, about where and why the sub went down near the islands at the tip of Alaska's Aleutian chain.

They knew the Grunion had sunk two Japanese submarine chasers and heavily damaged a third in July 1942 near Kiska, one of two Aleutian islands occupied by the Japanese. They knew her last official radio message to the sub base at Dutch Harbor, on July 30, 1942, described heavy enemy activity. They knew Dutch Harbor responded with an order to return to the base, but they don't know if Grunion ever received it.

Until a few years ago, the clues were too sparse to justify a search, said Abele, whose father, Mannert Abele, was the Grunion's commander.

"We really didn't do anything about it because there was nothing, no information," Abele said. "What were we going to do?"

Four years ago, a man who had heard about the Grunion's disappearance e-mailed links to several Grunion Web sites to Bruce Abele, who lives in Newton, Mass.

One site held an entirely new clue, a note from a Japanese model ship builder who said he thought he knew what had happened to the Grunion.

Abele's youngest brother, John, contacted the man, who translated and sent him a report written in the 1960s by a Japanese military officer who served in the Aleutians.

It described a confrontation between a U.S. submarine and the officer's freighter, the Kano Maru, on July 31, 1942, about 10 miles northeast of Kiska.

The sub dispatched several torpedoes. All but one bounced off the boat without exploding, or missed, the officer wrote, although the hit knocked out his engines and communications. He said he returned fire and believed he had sunk the sub.

The Abele brothers -- Bruce, Brad and John -- began investigating the identity of the sub in the Kano Maru officer's report.

They hired a marine survey firm, Seattle-based Williamson and Associates, for an expedition in August to Kiska.

Williamson at first told the Abeles that surveying the tip of the Aleutian archipelago would be too expensive, Bruce Abele said, but the firm eventually agreed to send sonar technicians and equipment aboard a Bering Sea crab boat to the frigid waters licking the base of Kiska volcano.

The Aquila, carrying more than a dozen crew members and sonar surveyors, set out on Aug. 2, said Pete Lowney, a family friend.

For more than two weeks, the Aquila carefully towed a sonar cable inside a 240-square-mile grid.

Sonar images can deceive even those who interpret them for a living. Elongated boulders look like submarines; outcrops resemble ship's prows.

"It's a rocky seascape," said Art Wright, survey manager for Williamson. "We went over the areas several times to differentiate between rock and ship and look at things from three to four different aspects."

In mid-August, the sonar picked up a 290-foot-long object wedged into a terrace on the steep underwater slope of the volcano.

The Grunion, however, was 312 feet long. The Williamson team believes the bow may have plowed beneath a mat of thick sediment, hence the apparent shortage. Skid marks show the vessel slid to rest about 1,000 meters from the surface, Wright said.

Wright is 95 per cent sure the shadowy images are those of the vanished sub. The Grunion is the only known sunken vessel in the area and the sonar captured the distinct outline of a submarine conning tower, he said.

"If our target is not the Grunion, where is she?" Wright said.

But the Abeles remain circumspect about the find.

"Although it's very encouraging at the moment, it's dangerous to say, 'Absolutely, we have it,'" Bruce Abele said in August during a brief stop in Anchorage.

But they have enough faith in the wreck to send out a second expedition next summer, this time with a remote-controlled underwater camera to identify the vessel and try to reconstruct its sinking.

   



-Mario- @ Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:19 am

Good find FB. I like to read about WW2 stuff.

   



stratos @ Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:29 am

Pardon my stupidity but I never knew we had subs that far north in the Pacific. Great find, I enjoyed reading it, I'm always interested in new WWII info.

   



BartSimpson @ Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:06 am

We had lots of subs in the North Pacific. The threat of the Japanese invading Alaska was very real (and a reason why the Alaska Highway was built) and in 1942 those brave men in their dangerous little subs were our first line of defense against the IJN.

We had some fearsome losses in the submarine service:

1941-1942
USS SEALION (SS 195) December 10, 1941
USS S 36 (SS 141) January 20, 1942
USS S 26 (SS 131) January 24, 1942
USS SHARK (SS 174) February 11, 1942
USS PERCH (SS 176) March 3, 1942
USS S 27 (SS 132) June 19, 1942
<b>USS GRUNION (SS 216) July 30, 1942 </b>
USS S 39 (SS 144) August 16, 1942

1943
USS ARGONAUT (SS 166) January 10, 1943
USS AMBERJACK (SS 219)February 16, 1943
USS GRAMPUS (SS 207) March 5, 1943
USS TRITON (SS 201) March 15, 1943
USS PICKEREL (SS 177) April 3, 1943
USS GRENADIER (SS 210) April 22, 1943
USS RUNNER (SS 275) May 28, 1943
USS R 12 (SS 89) June 12, 1943
USS POMPANO (SS 181)August 29, 1943
USS GRAYLING (SS 209) September 9, 1943
USS CISCO (SS 290) September 28, 1943
USS S 44 (SS 155) October 7, 1943
USS WAHOO (SS 238) October 11, 1943
USS DORADO (SS 248) October 12, 1943
USS CORVINA (SS 226) November 16, 1943
USS SCULPIN (SS 191) November 19, 1943
USS CAPELIN (SS 289) November 23, 1943

1944
USS SCORPION (SS 278) January 5, 1944
USS GRAYBACK (SS 208) February 26, 1944
USS TROUT (SS 202) February 28, 1944
USS TULLIBEE (SS 284) March 26, 1944
USS HERRING (SS 233) June 1, 1944
USS GUDGEON (SS 211) June 7, 1944
USS GOLET (SS 361) June 14, 1944
USS S 28 (SS 133) July 4, 1944
USS ROBALO (SS 273) July 26, 1944
USS FLIER (SS 250) August 13, 1944
USS HARDER (SS 257) August 24, 1944
USS SEAWOLF (SS 197) October 3, 1944
USS ESCOLAR (SS 294) October 17, 1944
USS DARTER (SS 227) October 24, 1944
USS SHARK II (SS 314) October 24, 1944
USS TANG (SS 306) October 24, 1944
USS ALBACORE (SS 218) November 7, 1944
USS GROWLER (SS 215) November 8, 1944
USS SCAMP (SS 277) November 9, 1944

1945
USS SWORDFISH (SS 193) January 12, 1945
USS BARBEL (SS 316) February 4, 1945
USS KETE (SS 369) March 20, 1945
USS TRIGGER (SS 237) March 26, 1945
USS SNOOK (SS 279) April 8, 1945
USS LAGARTO (SS 371) May 3, 1945
USS BONEFISH (SS 223) June 18, 1945
USS BULLHEAD (SS 332) August 6, 1945

   



-Mario- @ Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:16 am

This is one hell of a list. There is a over 40 subs listed here and the Grunion had 70 men on board. It would be a safe bet to say that the US lost over 2000 men in that small area of the world.

   



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