Canada Kicks Ass
Alberta goes NDP after 4 decades of Conservative rule

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BeaverFever @ Tue May 05, 2015 8:05 pm

Holy smokes! The end is nigh!!! Probably because of the "ethnic vote" (in this case ethnic meaning from another province).

   



Thanos @ Tue May 05, 2015 8:13 pm

No regrets at all. They were a bad government and they had to go. Alberta can survive any NDP fuck ups over the next four years, but I don't think the integrity of the system could survive another term of the way the PC's do things behind the scene. The WRP recovered nicely after what was done to them and should provide an effective and noisy opposition.

One again, no regrets on my part at all and Mr. Prentice's PC's are the only one who should be looking in the mirror. And Mr. Harper should be shitting bricks right now too because if he's going to head into the federal election thinking that the usual SOP will work in Alberta again then he's going to get his ass handed to him as badly as Prentice just did.

An old saying is entirely appropriate for what happened tonight. Beware the wrath of a quiet people. :evil:

(Johnny Lydon was right too, like he said back in the Public Image Ltd days; anger is an energy. :rock: )

   



Robair @ Tue May 05, 2015 8:20 pm

So historically NDP SK has gone right while Alberta has gone left. And SK is rich in natural resources... ...SK real estate might be a good investment right now.

   



Canadian_Mind @ Tue May 05, 2015 8:36 pm

I'm curious about voter turnout...

Jim prentice is such a fuck up, called a bad election when he didn't have to, didn't make smart policies, and made that fucking mirror comment. Well we looked, and we didn't like what we saw.



Robair, why?

   



BeaverFever @ Tue May 05, 2015 9:00 pm

It's ok for conservative people to switch it up every 45 years or so just to keep it interesting. I hear that stephen harper and his wife are planning to try doggy style in 2038.

   



andyt @ Tue May 05, 2015 9:10 pm

Got a feeling the Albertans are going to have to do some more looking in the mirror as a govt of people who never expected to be elected starts to govern and there's no magic answers, no free lunches. Let the howling begin.

Prentice has just walked away from the whole deal even tho he was re-elected. Classy.

   



Canadian_Mind @ Tue May 05, 2015 9:14 pm

What a fucking dink. Way to waste even more money.

   



BeaverFever @ Tue May 05, 2015 9:28 pm

andyt andyt:
Got a feeling the Albertans are going to have to do some more looking in the mirror as a govt of people who never expected to be elected starts to govern and there's no magic answers, no free lunches. Let the howling begin.

Prentice has just walked away from the whole deal even tho he was re-elected. Classy.


I'm sure the NDP will try to govern from the Alberta centre and not be a one hit wonder. For example Environmental Issues were listed under "Other Matters" in their platform.

   



Thanos @ Tue May 05, 2015 9:52 pm

BeaverFever BeaverFever:
andyt andyt:
Got a feeling the Albertans are going to have to do some more looking in the mirror as a govt of people who never expected to be elected starts to govern and there's no magic answers, no free lunches. Let the howling begin.

Prentice has just walked away from the whole deal even tho he was re-elected. Classy.


I'm sure the NDP will try to govern from the Alberta centre and not be a one hit wonder. For example Environmental Issues were listed under "Other Matters" in their platform.


They can't go too far left the way they can in Ontario, Quebec, and BC. Booting the PC's doesn't mean that this has turned into a hardcore socialist fortress overnight. Notley seems pretty bright so I doubt that she'll make the mistake of getting too cozy with Mulcair and that collection of Quebec-based nutcases that make up the federal arm of the Dippers.

   



andyt @ Tue May 05, 2015 10:30 pm

BeaverFever BeaverFever:
andyt andyt:
Got a feeling the Albertans are going to have to do some more looking in the mirror as a govt of people who never expected to be elected starts to govern and there's no magic answers, no free lunches. Let the howling begin.

Prentice has just walked away from the whole deal even tho he was re-elected. Classy.


I'm sure the NDP will try to govern from the Alberta centre and not be a one hit wonder. For example Environmental Issues were listed under "Other Matters" in their platform.


1. the government will be run by people who have no experience in governing, and as I said, didn't really expect to win. They'll be like those dippers in Quebec.

2. Prentice lost because of what happened to oil. If oil stays low when the dippers are in power, as I said, they have no magic wand, and Albertans will get restless about lack of spending and high taxes. OTOH, if oil were to all of a sudden bounce back, dippers, for a while, would be seen as the second coming. Point I've been trying to make for a time, the electorate has unreasonable expectations, can't handle the truth.

I'm glad the dips won. Alberta needed a good shakeup, and Notley does seem to have some chops. And for a few years they won't go all out at the trough, take a while for the entitlements to really settle in. I hope it presages the same thing for the federal election, that needs a good shakeup too. But until the electorate grows up, we're going to basically have the same shit, different pile from our politicians.

   



martin14 @ Tue May 05, 2015 10:51 pm

Thanos Thanos:
No regrets at all. They were a bad government and they had to go. Alberta can survive any NDP fuck ups over the next four years,



The oil companies can wait, the oil isn't going anywhere.

I'm guessing there won't be much support from the Dippers for pipelines either.


A couple of years of Ministries being run by utterly neophyte and incompetent idealist morons,
trying to change a 50 year Conservative civil service way of doing things.

Good luck. :lol:

The mistakes made will be epic, and the faux pas memorable.



I'll call it now, because a Dipper majority;

unless there is a constitutional issue, Alberta will get a PROVINCIAL SALES TAX before too long.


Which, they probably need anyway.

   



andyt @ Tue May 05, 2015 10:55 pm

Notely is for Keystone, against Northern Gateway, which Prentice will tell you the Reformacons fucked up so badly, it's dead anyway. The recent response to the oil spill in Vancouver didn't help either.

   



Robair @ Tue May 05, 2015 10:55 pm

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:
I'm curious about voter turnout...

Jim prentice is such a fuck up, called a bad election when he didn't have to, didn't make smart policies, and made that fucking mirror comment. Well we looked, and we didn't like what we saw.



Robair, why?
Their were decades of Saskatchewan youth migrating to business friendly Alberta for work. That has recently slown down as SK has become a little more business freindly and the province has experienced a mini population boom (by SK standards). My comment was about that, and the fact their may be more Saskatchewanians coming home from Alberta under typical NDP policies.

I really have no idea what the housing market in SK has been doing. Just about everybody I know back their lives on a farm or in a REALLY small town. So, qualified my statement by saying "might be"...

   



sandorski @ Tue May 05, 2015 11:05 pm

Wow, would never think Alberta would elect the NDP. 8O They probably will make a lot of naive mistakes, but regardless it should be interesting.

   



DanSC @ Wed May 06, 2015 12:02 am

A government elected with less than 50% of the total vote? That's outrageous!

...is that still outrageous?

   



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