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CDNBear @ Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:53 pm

MidianKnight MidianKnight:
"Thanks for leaving Fucktard...."

"Fucktard." Did you toilet-train late or something? I guess that's what passes for intelligent discourse among "real" albertans (another name no longer worthy of capitalisation) these days, eh? But then, from what I've seen, brains are clearly inimical to "living" in the One-Party Rich People's Republic/American Client-State of Alberta, aren't they. :roll:

Hey, fucktard, it's my pleasure, sincerely! :lol:
Any of you hot-shit, patriotically-correct conservatives: while I gotcha, answer me this:

Why is it that when you people spout your rabid wannabe-Yankee/fascist bullshit it's perfectly alright with anyone and everyone, but when anybody with views/attitudes even slightly to the left of Mussolini (er, that would be me) beaks off, it's like we got some fucking social disease? And all the while, you spout "freedom of speech, different opinions, blah, blah, blah, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit ad infinitum/nauseum..." Is it because you KNOW you are supporting a regime that has spent the last ~40 years conning you into voting for them so they can fuck you in the ass some more, and, knowing this, you displace your--perfectly justifiable, I might add--anger on those who wield the uncomfortable truth? Just like the regime tells you to? Believe me, I understand how bitter a thing this is to have to face, but you could try investigating alternatives to the brazenly corrupt establishment, for starters. Instead of overcompensating for not being the Uber-RednecKKK you only wish you were, and cutting down anyone who differs even slightly in attitude.

Or, failing that, at least debate INTELLIGENTLY. Yeah, see above :roll: Odious, just odious (look it up, OK?)

Yours, a proud liberal fucktard :twisted:
You blew any aspect of looking intelligent, when you said...

$1:
I believe that the Conservatives Party of Alberta should be outlawed, and its' members jailed--if not executed


If this is what passes for intelligence in your deluded world, I think I'll pass thanx.

   



MidianKnight @ Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:20 pm

camerontech camerontech:
neopundit neopundit:
Hey man, I respect your views and the fact that you want to partake in intelligent debate.

So, you're going to have to explain to me how you would institute a "living wage", and how it would be successful while trouncing all economic incentives to work hard.


I'm waiting for this [popcorn]


How perfectly, typically, self-centred, myopically, hypocritically conservative...

Why do you con(fidence artist)servatives always assume that whenever a gov't institutes...well, let's call them "controls against the most venal/ruthless/greedy" for lack of a better descriptor...it automatically is going to "Trounce all economic incentives to work hard."?????? :roll:
I know a great many people who work their fucking asses off --read: two almost fulltime jobs, 12-16 hours a day, 6 or 7 days a week--and , come month's end, STILL CAN'T MAKE ENDS MEET. In this, the richest fucking jurisdiction in Canada, and probably one of the richest in this hemisphere.
You tell me just how much "economic incentive" there exists for people in such a situation, God damn you. Whence comes the desire to work even harder than that, KNOWING THAT NO MATTER WHAT, YOU ARE BEING SET UP, BY YOUR EMPLOYER, AND ITS' BOUGHT-AND-PAID-FOR GOVERNMENT, TO FAIL? ALL SO THE COMPANY OWNERS CAN MAKE EVEN MORE $$$$? Give me a fucking break already. Clearly, it's not from lack of effort or desire on the workers' parts. Why does your response make me want to go out and, seriously, fucking knife some rich Yuppie asshole right fucking now? Becuse I've been there/done it. :evil: Try driving truck sometime, or worse, courier/messenger :evil: The romantic myths you'll hear about it are 95% lies, and 99% of remainder just aren't true, but I digress...

Tell ya one thing from my own experience mate: This doesn't provide incentive, it only instills the certainty of further futility. All the more so, when, if you can even find the time, you look for "better" job(s), only to find that they all pay the same UTTER SHIT wages, joke--if any--benefits, all offer the same lack of security, same DELIBERATE lack of any prospects of advancement, same fucking wonderful profit-at-others' expense-no-matter-what mentality, and they're allowed to get away with this? Where's the fucking incentive to do, even more, for less, for longer? Sorry, mate, but that's not how I get motivated to make someone else rich(er)...

I don't presume that I have all--or any, for that matter--answers, but here's what I think:
Did you read in the Calgary Herald some months ago--I misremember exactly when--how $102 MILLION went, courtesy of puppet-king Ralph, to "financial assistance to the oil and gas industry"? (That's verbatim). We can make a start--at whatever, really--by stopping corporate handouts like this. Somehow, I don't think the oil and gas industry needs "financial assistance" (Exxon/Mobil profits in 2005: US $36 Billion). These brazen handouts to corproRAT welfare bums, (HA-HA-HA!!!!) along with these alleged multi-billion dollar surpluses would form a great base for a fund for low-income people to use when they need help making ends meet, and maybe building them some affordable fucking housing, just for starters. This would free up some time for them to, yes, look for truly better jobs--assuming such things exist anymore--which makes them more money, which generates more tax revenue in the society, which...need me to go on, or do you get my drift. A human is a human is a human, so only natural that, once on a path that isn't a set-up of guaranteed futility, our worker is going to--now that s/he has the time and money to do so--feel like s/he's really getting somewhere, and thus, be inspired to keep working hard in that direction. Optimally, this leads to yet-better jobs, better pay, which leads to more tax revenue in the society, which...yeah, you get it, right?
This--IE our money in OUR FUCKING HANDS--combined with rent controls, enforcment of taxes on the rich--and VERY harsh penalties for cheaters--and a Labour Code that doesn't come straight out of some Industrial Revolution-era sweatshop owner's wet dreams, and again, serious enforcement of same--would be a helluva first step, don't you think...? Get it right, you might not need living wage laws, like I've heard alot of civilised (read: not Alberta) countries do...

I await, with a bitter, angry smile what will, no doubt, be an echoing silence...And they wonder why con(fidence artists)servatives disgust me beyond words: because I--and many, many others in this city--have to live with the consequences of their uncontrolled, unrestrained greed, and can't afford to insulate myself (IE: buy a con(fidence artist)servative politician of my very own) from it...it's really that simple... :evil:

   



Scrappy @ Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:44 pm

Of my the commies are really busy these days, what did your pot crop die or get raided-NOTE: Stop pissing on the plants it kills them? Back to the shed for the next Commie's will meeting, try the Legion no scratch that idea they fought for their country. I feel like breaking into a song, it's the communist mantra La ratitude, lala ratitude.

   



Schleihauf @ Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:57 pm

MidianKnight MidianKnight:
camerontech camerontech:
neopundit neopundit:
Hey man, I respect your views and the fact that you want to partake in intelligent debate.

So, you're going to have to explain to me how you would institute a "living wage", and how it would be successful while trouncing all economic incentives to work hard.


I'm waiting for this [popcorn]


How perfectly, typically, self-centred, myopically, hypocritically conservative...

Why do you con(fidence artist)servatives always assume that whenever a gov't institutes...well, let's call them "controls against the most venal/ruthless/greedy" for lack of a better descriptor...it automatically is going to "Trounce all economic incentives to work hard."?????? :roll:
I know a great many people who work their fucking asses off --read: two almost fulltime jobs, 12-16 hours a day, 6 or 7 days a week--and , come month's end, STILL CAN'T MAKE ENDS MEET. In this, the richest fucking jurisdiction in Canada, and probably one of the richest in this hemisphere.
You tell me just how much "economic incentive" there exists for people in such a situation, God damn you. Whence comes the desire to work even harder than that, KNOWING THAT NO MATTER WHAT, YOU ARE BEING SET UP, BY YOUR EMPLOYER, AND ITS' BOUGHT-AND-PAID-FOR GOVERNMENT, TO FAIL? ALL SO THE COMPANY OWNERS CAN MAKE EVEN MORE $$$$? Give me a fucking break already. Clearly, it's not from lack of effort or desire on the workers' parts. Why does your response make me want to go out and, seriously, fucking knife some rich Yuppie asshole right fucking now? Becuse I've been there/done it. :evil: Try driving truck sometime, or worse, courier/messenger :evil: The romantic myths you'll hear about it are 95% lies, and 99% of remainder just aren't true, but I digress...

Tell ya one thing from my own experience mate: This doesn't provide incentive, it only instills the certainty of further futility. All the more so, when, if you can even find the time, you look for "better" job(s), only to find that they all pay the same UTTER SHIT wages, joke--if any--benefits, all offer the same lack of security, same DELIBERATE lack of any prospects of advancement, same fucking wonderful profit-at-others' expense-no-matter-what mentality, and they're allowed to get away with this? Where's the fucking incentive to do, even more, for less, for longer? Sorry, mate, but that's not how I get motivated to make someone else rich(er)...

I don't presume that I have all--or any, for that matter--answers, but here's what I think:
Did you read in the Calgary Herald some months ago--I misremember exactly when--how $102 MILLION went, courtesy of puppet-king Ralph, to "financial assistance to the oil and gas industry"? (That's verbatim). We can make a start--at whatever, really--by stopping corporate handouts like this. Somehow, I don't think the oil and gas industry needs "financial assistance" (Exxon/Mobil profits in 2005: US $36 Billion). These brazen handouts to corproRAT welfare bums, (HA-HA-HA!!!!) along with these alleged multi-billion dollar surpluses would form a great base for a fund for low-income people to use when they need help making ends meet, and maybe building them some affordable fucking housing, just for starters. This would free up some time for them to, yes, look for truly better jobs--assuming such things exist anymore--which makes them more money, which generates more tax revenue in the society, which...need me to go on, or do you get my drift. A human is a human is a human, so only natural that, once on a path that isn't a set-up of guaranteed futility, our worker is going to--now that s/he has the time and money to do so--feel like s/he's really getting somewhere, and thus, be inspired to keep working hard in that direction. Optimally, this leads to yet-better jobs, better pay, which leads to more tax revenue in the society, which...yeah, you get it, right?
This--IE our money in OUR FUCKING HANDS--combined with rent controls, enforcment of taxes on the rich--and VERY harsh penalties for cheaters--and a Labour Code that doesn't come straight out of some Industrial Revolution-era sweatshop owner's wet dreams, and again, serious enforcement of same--would be a helluva first step, don't you think...? Get it right, you might not need living wage laws, like I've heard alot of civilised (read: not Alberta) countries do...

I await, with a bitter, angry smile what will, no doubt, be an echoing silence...And they wonder why con(fidence artists)servatives disgust me beyond words: because I--and many, many others in this city--have to live with the consequences of their uncontrolled, unrestrained greed, and can't afford to insulate myself (IE: buy a con(fidence artist)servative politician of my very own) from it...it's really that simple... :evil:


You should tell that great many people to finish high school.
Things must suck in Alberta because its different in rural Ontario.

   



Tman1 @ Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:00 pm

Why would it suck in Alberta? I took about 2 seconds of that rant and classified it as garbage.

   



Schleihauf @ Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:21 pm

Tman1 Tman1:
Why would it suck in Alberta? I took about 2 seconds of that rant and classified it as garbage.


I don't know its hard to decipher. I think he trying to tell us that if you get a job in Alberta theres no chance of advancement and that you get paid 3rd-world wages(sounds a lot like communism).I didn't know things were that bad in Alberta. Really what I think the whole rant was about is: capitalism is bad.

   



Mr_Canada old @ Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:51 pm

I read this and thought it was an older me.

:lol:

Kidding, not fully... Could care less about the Conservative Party of Alberta... I just ignore them... Their supports piss me off though... And I don't think of myself as a Communist....

Socialist brother! :D

   



MissT @ Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:05 am

Yep, I don't think of myself as a communist either. For me, one of the major flaws in communism is the failure to value the individual and diversity. These are not incompatible with a greater socialist good, but should in fact be at its core.

But I hear your rant, and I'm with you on why a living working wage is a basic minimum necessity. I wonder what is going through the minds of those who argue against it. "No, some folks shouldn't get a basic living wage. They should get a below-living wage. If their life sucks, but we keep telling them that the ability to make ends meet is just around the corner if they work even harder, then we can keep them on the treadmill doing all the work while we go off and enjoy the profits, hahaha." Is that it? Somebody explain, please.

And it won't derail the economy either. There's plenty of incentive to work if it will actually help to make ends meet. The treadmill trick doesn't do it for me, sorry.

   



Banff @ Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:31 am

Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:
How you doing Banff, we haven't seen you around for awhile. 8O NOT


Give the guy a break he's right . Yes I played Nazi Neo Conservative winner takes all in Alberta and realized it was an ignorant selfish mistake but thankfully never lost my Liberal reality about the human race. With prices averaging over 500k for a home in Vancouver and Calgary currently at 375K , Edmonton , 303k ,Saskatoon 179k , Regina 107k etc where do YOU think you will do best , or for that matter survive? Most of you Cons think Alberta is the merry place to be but I really doubt most of you can survive for an extended period of time .There are two forms of higher income and those are land/realestate and Gas and Oil . The rest of you are going to be taking your money and running or downsizing to affordability . This country is not the UK or China where a one bedroom flat is roughly 400k but you will all line up for your bid because ya need a roof over head , right ! lol . By 2010 I would like to see the defaults of mortgages made public in Calgary and Vancouver . It would / will be an eye opener .

Midian Knight ...
in the current time Keep smiling and build a soddy if you have to . Don't let these know it alls throw mud at you . Ralph was certainly this countries all time biggest screw up .

also you mentioned something about the US which I believe stands for Unined Stays of Mirocco err something like that ...anyway I don't know much about that place I think it's a country south of us but there sure are alot of people who talk about it on this pro-Canadian forum :roll: They must be weirdos or something :lol:

   



george123 @ Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:48 pm

Finaly! I was getting lonely. Midian, you talk some good sense. That is what militant socialism is about. I salute you brother. I have been trying to get it into these cons heads for quite a while what we are about, and they are not even trying to listen. They all think they are mightily right, and are so pig-headed they will not even consider that other ways of doing things are possible.

What do you think of the war in Afghanistan, the justice system (both youth and adult), and the political system here in Canada. I would like to read from someone of a like mind.

   



MidianKnight @ Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:33 pm

Scrappy Scrappy:
Of my the commies are really busy these days, what did your pot crop die or get raided-NOTE: Stop pissing on the plants it kills them? Back to the shed for the next Commie's will meeting, try the Legion no scratch that idea they fought for their country. I feel like breaking into a song, it's the communist mantra La ratitude, lala ratitude.



No, seriously: What the HELL are you blabbering about????!!! :?

   



MidianKnight @ Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:49 pm

grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:
MidianKnight MidianKnight:
"Fucktard." Did you toilet-train late or something? I guess that's what passes for intelligent discourse among "real" albertans (another name no longer worthy of capitalisation) these days, eh? But then, from what I've seen, brains are clearly inimical to "living" in the One-Party Rich People's Republic/American Client-State of Alberta, aren't they. :roll:


I have revaluated my original statement suspicious by your protest that I may have erred with the chosen vernacular. Upon further review of your contributions so far to this site I have concluded that I should have in fact used the more apposite: ‘Complete or Master Fucktard’.

As you are an obviously accomplished Complete Fucktard, it was extraneous on my part to merely denigrate you as some typical run of the mill fucktard when your lucid qualifications were and are, clearly undisguised. Now some here may argue that you are a ‘Liberal Fucktard’ or a ‘Commie Fucktard’ but these characterisations fail to descry the effort and dedication to which you’ve committed yourself and there should be forthwith a more concerted awareness of the CKA readership to recognise the privilege to have the opportunity to observe a Mastered Fucktard practice his craft.

I do though; stand by my original evaluation that your imminent departure from Alberta is a positive development for the people and the province. Once again but with all due respect:

Thanks for leaving you Complete Fucktard!


Oooohh, how 'bout that. You're using typical pretentious pseudo-intellectualism to cut a liberal apart. C'mon, Uber-fascist fucktard, that cliche has been done to death, hasn't it? (ref.: Ezra Levant, and the insufferably self-righteous Link Byfield.) If you're gonna pull out that tired old dog, though, then he'll hunt alot better if you get the words right. "Descry" is not any English word I've ever heard. I speak Polish and some French too, not in any of those, either. Insults work much better if there is actually some substance behind the (barely competent, re-hashed, cliche'd) attempts at stylin' OK? "Apposite"? "Mastered"...right then: Reviewing your spew before submission, and Spell-checking will help!

Re: my imminent (not really, actually ~2-3 years, Gods willing) departure: I couldn't agree more!
Once again but with all due respect: Please die soon, OK? :twisted:

Your f'th'fl, humble, and o'b'd'n't T4 debt-peon:

THE ULTRA-UBER-SUPER-DUPER-COMPLETE-BEYOND-COMPLETION-MASTER FUCKTARD [BF]

   



MidianKnight @ Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:14 pm

MissT MissT:
Yep, I don't think of myself as a communist either. For me, one of the major flaws in communism is the failure to value the individual and diversity. These are not incompatible with a greater socialist good, but should in fact be at its core.

But I hear your rant, and I'm with you on why a living working wage is a basic minimum necessity. I wonder what is going through the minds of those who argue against it. "No, some folks shouldn't get a basic living wage. They should get a below-living wage. If their life sucks, but we keep telling them that the ability to make ends meet is just around the corner if they work even harder, then we can keep them on the treadmill doing all the work while we go off and enjoy the profits, hahaha." Is that it? Somebody explain, please.

And it won't derail the economy either. There's plenty of incentive to work if it will actually help to make ends meet. The treadmill trick doesn't do it for me, sorry.


Hello again, tovarisch! Actually, I was being self-deprecatory/ironic when I called myself a communist. IE: Joke! I'm not really a Lenin/Stalin/et al supporter. Quite the opposite, actually. The joke is in taking what appears to be the con(fidence artist)servative's favourite insult of liberals and throwing it back in their faces. Hopefully, if we all do this enough, they'll finally clue in to the fact, that, yes, their shit really does stink just as much as anyone else's, and methinks worse than most.

Tovarisch=Russian word for "comrade," btw...again, for all the cons who never seem to get it: joke! Like I alluded to before, these peoples' apparent lack of any sense of humour is screamingly obvious, and a real problem... :roll:

Your description of what goes through their "minds" (right!) re the treadmill is absolutely on-target. That, I think, is the whole idea for it, yes? As a trucker, I know this scam better than I would like to...And no, not only will it not derail the economy...it would give it a huge boost: there are alot more workers than owners (forgive the Marxist terminology, but it suits), so if they have more money to spend and generate more tax revenue...well you get my drift, right? (The con(fidence artist)servative I was adressing in my harangue seems to have conveniently glossed over it). The treadmill got really, really old for me a long time ago, too...

Don't forget the next Party meeting at the Kremlin, comrades... :lol:

   



PluggyRug @ Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:26 pm

Hope you're fluent in French and Polish because English eludes you.

   



MidianKnight @ Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:27 pm

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
I read this and thought it was an older me.

:lol:

Kidding, not fully... Could care less about the Conservative Party of Alberta... I just ignore them... Their supports piss me off though... And I don't think of myself as a Communist....

Socialist brother! :D


Yeah, like I said in another post, I was being ironic/self-deprecatory when I called myself a Communist. I'm using the scum's favourite (apparently) insult of liberal-minded people to mock them by throwing it back in their face at max v...they just don't ever seem to get it, though. A sense of humour is a very important and valuable thing... :roll:

I myself would also care nothing for these idiots and their psychotically self-absorbed mentality, and their hilarious hypocrisy if there was ANY real opposition to them in Alberta. Democracy can't function without it! One Party State...isn't that what the old Soviet Union used to be? We see how well that turned out. Only difference here is that the dogma is of a different flavour, that's it, really. Hey, at least the Sov's had a state healthcare system that worked reasonably well, and they ensured that everyone had a job, and a roof over their heads...for the first little while, at least. Free post-secondary education too.

Thank you, fellow socialist brother, I don't feel like I'm the only one anymore :)

   



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