Canada Kicks Ass
Americans move to Canada

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Gonzo @ Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:09 pm

It's been awhile for me. Been busy with work. Seems since the election in the States Canada has been bombarded with Americans seeking immigration into our great country. Could be a good thing. More left wing people living here. Then the conservatives will never get into power again! Lets hope they all move to Alberta and vote out Ralph.

   



Newfie Scott @ Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:23 pm

I highly doubt anything much will come of it, as last year there was only ~3000 Americans who took up Canadian citizenship. As well teh immigration process takes at least one year before you can get into this country and if an American comes to Canada on refugee claims, they're not getting in if their reason is "Bush won".

The vast majority of Democrats will remain in the US - the "let's think about moving to Canada" idea is just a way to vent their anger at losing the election - sort of like when you get pissed off with university and start considering an alternate career path.

   



figfarmer @ Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:39 pm

I mean sure, 3,000 people is a very small percentage of the American population, but that percentage of the population carries more learning than the rest of the populateion, most of the tolerance and compassion, and nearly all of the right thinking. It's like processing diamonds. You leave tons and tons of muck behind to get a few ounces of stones. The US lost more than it could afford to lose during the Vietnam era and the result is what is called "The dumbing down of America." What is going to happen now is the process is going to speed up. Add to this the fact that the folks who are left will treat any newcomers so badly that they won't stay and you have a recipe for a whole country full of self rightous morons who can't tie their own shoes, but spout ersatz Bible verses instead of intellegent conversation. This I have already seen with my own eyes. It's scary!

   



Gonzo @ Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:11 pm

The dumbing down of America is a result of many things. Look at FOX news. Look at reality tv. I think there is a group of people in the media who want to dumb down american society. Media and popular entertainment doesn't make you think or challenge you anymore. You can say "look elsewhere" but the vast majority of people dont. Also, American education is pretty sad. Most Americans couldn't find there town on an unmarked map. If we ever became affraid America would invade all we'd have to do is remove our name from all the maps. So as a result of the dumbing down of American society you get people like Bush in power.

   



Rev_Blair @ Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:15 pm

"Like a diamond mine"

Good tune. Real true too.

Then trith is that the Americans that move here quietly, profs and scientists and poets in residence and guys who claim to be sef-employed but really eke out a living writing for a few left-wing magazines are among the best additions we can make to our country. Educated and intelligent, quietly influential.

We gained a lot of good people during Vietnam and not all of them were draft dodgers. Some just came here because they liked it and they could. Canada is going to see a few more of those in the next bit. Lets make them feel like they crossed a border. :wink:

   



Newfie Scott @ Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:20 pm

$1:
Media and popular entertainment doesn't make you think or challenge you anymore.


Canada isn't much better off that the United States in that respect - we've dumbed down a lot too [personal observation]. I think that the only thing we have going for us up here is the CBC which is the only news network on TV which I consider to be valuable for making educational and informative documentaries which make you think. Sadly, we all know that the majority of people growing up don't watch CBC very much, and most consider Newsworld to be boring and not worth flicking through. Luckily I was raised in a house where Newsworld was on TV the vast majority of the time, or Jeopardy, with minimal amounts of worthless drama and reality shows (though some Dramas are thought provoking - I think "The District" did a real good job of provoking thought on policing issues and other important items such as substance abuse).

Canada has a lot of commonalities with the United States in terms of culture - TV zapping the minds of the younger generations is one such thing.

   



blubs @ Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:27 pm

[. Then the conservatives will never get into power again! Lets hope they all move to Alberta and vote out Ralph.[/quote]
That would be so sweet . But we should be so friggin lucky King Ralph would probably pad the ballot boxes . Or else he will phone Dubya to get advice on how to be , shall we say non-elected .
Any american who wants to move here to Alberta is most welcome.

   



UglyYank @ Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:36 pm

The latest has it 10,000 Americans are at least looking into the possibility of moving to Canada. It's a good start but unfortunately that isn't enough. Perhaps Canada could speed up the process? These people need a home. Fast. Please. Pretty please.

   



Robair @ Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:37 pm

ScooterMk2 ScooterMk2:
$1:
Media and popular entertainment doesn't make you think or challenge you anymore.


Canada isn't much better off that the United States in that respect - we've dumbed down a lot too [personal observation]. I think that the only thing we have going for us up here is the CBC which is the only news network on TV which I consider to be valuable for making educational and informative documentaries which make you think.
The CBC is a great educational tool, but you have to be careful that you balance it with another view. The CBC does slant in a particular political direction. Nowhere near as blatantly as some american networks, but the slant is deafinatly there.

As long as I have internet acces www.worldnews.com and www.canada.com will be my first two stops.

   



Robair @ Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:42 pm

UglyYank UglyYank:
The latest has it 10,000 Americans are at least looking into the possibility of moving to Canada. It's a good start but unfortunately that isn't enough. Perhaps Canada could speed up the process? These people need a home. Fast. Please. Pretty please.

Here's option number two. Nobody has to move, should speed things up nicely.
ImageOh, Ugly! I see you're posting from California! Welcome to the new Canada!!

   



Newfie Scott @ Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:47 pm

Robair Robair:
ScooterMk2 ScooterMk2:
$1:
Media and popular entertainment doesn't make you think or challenge you anymore.


Canada isn't much better off that the United States in that respect - we've dumbed down a lot too [personal observation]. I think that the only thing we have going for us up here is the CBC which is the only news network on TV which I consider to be valuable for making educational and informative documentaries which make you think.
The CBC is a great educational tool, but you have to be careful that you balance it with another view. The CBC does slant in a particular political direction. Nowhere near as blatantly as some american networks, but the slant is deafinatly there.

As long as I have internet acces www.worldnews.com and www.canada.com will be my first two stops.


Completely agree Robair. Regardless of which source you watch for educational purposes, you always need balance. I've always balanced what I see on Newsworld docs (at least the issues which get me thinking) with lots of reading up on the subject from varying sources (credible ones). You learn far more by reading up on issues than you'll ever get out of a TV show.

   



Gonzo @ Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:20 pm

Canada should definatley welcome these Americans who want to move here. We could gain alot of industry from it. I feel we should open the boarder and make it easier for these people to apply for Canadian status. These Americans are alot like Canadians anyway. Plus, could you imagine if Bush was your leader. I'd flee the country too. So lets take pity on them. Our country could only grow from it.

   



Soulsedge @ Wed Nov 17, 2004 12:00 am

UglyYank UglyYank:
The latest has it 10,000 Americans are at least looking into the possibility of moving to Canada. It's a good start but unfortunately that isn't enough. Perhaps Canada could speed up the process? These people need a home. Fast. Please. Pretty please.


Jesus no. dont. I've been waiting two years now. Just doing paperwork, to turn in the paperwork! I'm from the states. My appointment with my immigration lawyer is this coming Friday. I was worried this would happen. So i lit a fire under his arse to hurry up. So as of this Friday my paperwork is going in. And hopefully ahead of these people from the states not really deserving of Canadian citizenship.

They are leaving the states just because of one lousy election that will change in 4 years? WTF? I left because of numerous things. The number one being Canada is better to raise kids. Better health care. VASTLY superior education(public high schools anyways). And just a general better quality of life. Not as many opportunities to strike it rich up here, but more then enough opportunities to live comfortable...which is all i want in life...i dont need to be rich.

What do you think these people will do, when things go badly here? heh

p.s. in case you didn't gather it from my post...i didn't move here cause of Bush. I moved here simply because once you get out of the U.S. and look in, you come to realize its not as great as the media there makes it out to be. I married a Canadian girl, saw how the people were here, and how educated everyone is, and i'm not going back...

   



Rev_Blair @ Wed Nov 17, 2004 3:41 am

I get the impression that the Americans who are really interested in moving here aren't doing it just because of Bush, Soulsedge, but instead that this was the final straw, the thing that gave them that last push.

The ones I've talked to say much the same things you do.

   



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