Canada Kicks Ass
Americans with guns at border use 'cultural difference'

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raydan @ Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:23 am

Wonder when the USA will start refusing entry to anybody who isn't carrying. [huh]

   



QBC @ Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:00 am

talk about arogance and ignorance. sorry but the rights and laws you have in your own country dont extend beyond your own border.

   



bootlegga @ Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:07 am

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/story/2012/07/23/wdr-guns-windsor-border.html

Personally I think it's aload of crap, and if they are found to be in possession of a handgun without the proper paperwork(gunshow, law enforcement, legal sales, or a shooting competition)or have lied when asked about carrying a restricted firearm they should be banned from entering Canada for a period of time equivalent to a sentence they would receive for illegal possession in Canada, as well as lying to a law enforcement officer.


I think that is fair - no time in prison, but banned from Canada for that time.

I'd add that they should also be red-flagged and their car searched on future trips if they deny having a firearm in their vehicle.

   



2Cdo @ Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:08 am

QBC QBC:
talk about arogance and ignorance. sorry but the rights and laws you have in your own country dont extend beyond your own border.


So you feel the same about Canadians committing crimes in countries they visit. good to know.

   



bootlegga @ Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:22 am

2Cdo 2Cdo:
QBC QBC:
talk about arogance and ignorance. sorry but the rights and laws you have in your own country dont extend beyond your own border.


So you feel the same about Canadians committing crimes in countries they visit. good to know.


He didn't say anything of the sort - he just said that it's arrogant for people to come here and expect that their laws/rights (the right to bear arms specifically) exists in other countries too. Guess what - he's right.

If we ever decriminalize marijuana, it would be foolish for a Canadian to assume that he can toke up in the USA just because he could here and not get busted.

An American probably wouldn't try and pack a pistol into his/her suitcase for a flight if they were going to Europe - why should they think they can bring one into Canada?

However, I definitely think that if you're dumb enough to try and smuggle hash out of Turkey or X out of Thailand, be prepared to do the time. BTW - that is illegal here too. It just sucks for the smuggler that the prisons there are far worse than they are here.

I was stunned to see, upon landing at Taipei International a sign that said, "Importing firearms, ammunition or illegal narcotics is punishable by death". Now, I wasn't carrying anything of the sort (and never would), being just a naive English teacher, but if anyone is dumb enough to try and flaunt those rules when something like that is posted, then be prepared to pay the price.

IMHO the very best a Canadian has to expect if he/she commits a crime is that the federal government might, and I emphasize MIGHT, ask for extradition so that the perp can serve the sentence in a Canadian jail instead of a third world hellhole rife with starvation, beatings, etc.

   



2Cdo @ Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:26 am

bootlegga bootlegga:
He didn't say anything of the sort - he just said that it's arrogant for people to come here and expect that their laws/rights (the right to bear arms specifically) exists in other countries too. Guess what - he's right.


And yet I see countless Canadians do the same when traveling. You can't applaud one without applauding the other.

$1:
If we ever decriminalize marijuana, it would be foolish for a Canadian to assume that he can toke up in the USA just because he could here and not get busted.


Agreed.

$1:
An American probably wouldn't try and pack a pistol into his/her suitcase for a flight if they were going to Europe - why should they think they can bring one into Canada?


They might. :wink:

$1:
However, I definitely think that if you're dumb enough to try and smuggle hash out of Turkey or X out of Thailand, be prepared to do the time. BTW - that is illegal here too. It just sucks for the smuggler that the prisons there are far worse than they are here.


Again, I agree.

$1:
I was stunned to see, upon landing at Taipei International a sign that said, "Importing firearms, ammunition or illegal narcotics is punishable by death". Now, I wasn't carrying anything of the sort (and never would), being just a naive English teacher, but if anyone is dumb enough to try and flaunt those rules when something like that is posted, then be prepared to pay the price.

IMHO the very best a Canadian has to expect if he/she commits a crime is that the federal government might, and I emphasize MIGHT, ask for extradition so that the perp can serve the sentence in a Canadian jail instead of a third world hellhole rife with starvation, beatings, etc.


My thoughts on that are you serve the time where you commit the crime.

   



BartSimpson @ Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:55 am

QBC QBC:
talk about arogance and ignorance. sorry but the rights and laws you have in your own country dont extend beyond your own border.


Unless you're an Israeli. F*ck around with their people and you'll find out that your rights don't exist anywhere. :idea:

   



andyt @ Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:09 am

2Cdo 2Cdo:
QBC QBC:
talk about arogance and ignorance. sorry but the rights and laws you have in your own country dont extend beyond your own border.


So you feel the same about Canadians committing crimes in countries they visit. good to know.


Can't speak for him, but I do. If we go to a different country we have to play by their rules. It's their country.

   



andyt @ Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:11 am

bootlegga bootlegga:

If we ever decriminalize marijuana, it would be foolish for a Canadian to assume that he can toke up in the USA just because he could here and not get busted.



Except there's a good chance they will legalize before we do. Cross border shopping will take on a whole new aspect. Hell, even in the 1980's they served us a nice pot leaf garnish with our omelets in Humboldt county.

   



2Cdo @ Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:27 am

andyt andyt:
2Cdo 2Cdo:
QBC QBC:
talk about arogance and ignorance. sorry but the rights and laws you have in your own country dont extend beyond your own border.


So you feel the same about Canadians committing crimes in countries they visit. good to know.


Can't speak for him, but I do. If we go to a different country we have to play by their rules. It's their country.


8O
Holy fuck! andy is agreeing with me!

   



andyt @ Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:36 am

I would be surprised if anybody on this forum doesn't. Don't know why you're making such a fuss about it.

   



Thanos @ Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:56 am

Just to beat on a dead horse for the sake of my own sick amusement, but it would appear that at least some Canadians genuinely do believe that Brenda Martin, Ronald Smith, and Omar Khadr had no moral or legal obligation at all to play according to the rules of the non-Canadian jurisdictions that they were visiting. And that it's the obligation of the Canadian government to go to their rescue when they chose to behave poorly in other peoples' playgrounds.

As the black guys would say, wassupwitdat? :?

   



QBC @ Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:40 am

were did i say that canadians can go anywhere, act like an ass and get away withit? Sorry, dont put words in my mouth.

   



Thanos @ Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:43 am

Hmmm. Unless you're a member of the NDP or the liberal side of the Liberals I wasn't talking about you at all. :?

Lighten up, sizzlechest. 8)

   



andyt @ Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:49 am

I thought it was those other country's laws respecting Reformacons that helped out Barbara Martin?

   



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