Canada Kicks Ass
Canada losing status as prime U.S. ally??

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Tokimini @ Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:14 pm

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
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From WWII to the present day our prime ally has without doubt been Great Britain, and I can't see that changing anytime soon.


Wow, I just lost a tonne of respect for you since you're clearly ignorant... :roll:


Help this ignorant Yank out. What is your definition of "prime ally", the country that is closest, or the one you can count on? Mine is the ally that is the strongest and most trustworthy. The Brits' military is far larger, better equipped and better prepared. How many aircraft carrier battle groups does Canada have? How many subs (that actually work)? As for the trustworthy part, no offense but I would feel very uneasy if my country's most important ally was one that spawned the likes of Streaker and Mr Canada, and in case your thinking your our prime ally because of Afganistan, your the one who is ignorant. Canada is in Afganistan at the behest of NATO, not out of any friendship for the US.

As for you losing respect for me, I'm crushed of course, but I'll try to carry on.
Rest assured my feelings for you are unchanged. I still think your an ahole. :)

   



Arrow @ Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:24 pm

Tokimini Tokimini:
Rest assured my feelings for you are unchanged. I still think your an ahole. :)


Don't worry: You come off as more of the aforementioned than anyone else.

   



bootlegga @ Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:17 pm

Tokimini Tokimini:

As for the trustworthy part, no offense but I would feel very uneasy if my country's most important ally was one that spawned the likes of Streaker and Mr Canada, and in case your thinking your our prime ally because of Afganistan, your the one who is ignorant.


Yeah, and assholes like Bill O'Reilly and Anne Coulter are likewise flattering of your country... :roll:

   



kenmore @ Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:22 pm

the states cozies up to Britain because they have delusional ideation about the Royalty.. they have Queen envy.. they even think Jackie Kennedy was royalty.. but thats as close as it got.. and you might have a ally in Britain but the rest of Europe ... well thats a different story..

   



Arctic_Menace @ Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:45 pm

Tokimini Tokimini:
Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
$1:
From WWII to the present day our prime ally has without doubt been Great Britain, and I can't see that changing anytime soon.


Wow, I just lost a tonne of respect for you since you're clearly ignorant... :roll:


Help this ignorant Yank out. What is your definition of "prime ally", the country that is closest, or the one you can count on? Mine is the ally that is the strongest and most trustworthy. The Brits' military is far larger, better equipped and better prepared. How many aircraft carrier battle groups does Canada have? How many subs (that actually work)? As for the trustworthy part, no offense but I would feel very uneasy if my country's most important ally was one that spawned the likes of Streaker and Mr Canada, and in case your thinking your our prime ally because of Afganistan, your the one who is ignorant. Canada is in Afganistan at the behest of NATO, not out of any friendship for the US.

As for you losing respect for me, I'm crushed of course, but I'll try to carry on.
Rest assured my feelings for you are unchanged. I still think your an ahole. :)


http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,95568,00.html

Also, during the Iranian Hostage crisis, it was benevolent Canadians who rescued those Americans... :roll:

In the wake of Hurrican Katrina, Canadian Rescue Teams were the FIRST to respond.

In WWII, the Devil's Brigade was created which was a regiment of soldiers that were American and Canadian and were pretty much the first co-national special forces unit that was one big group.

During the Cold War, we set up the DEW (Distant Early Warning)Line to serve as an early warning barrier guarding against potential Soviet Bombers.

We have Norad, which helps oversee all of North American Airspace.

We have NAFTA, and the Americans continue to get the resources and energy they need from Canada.

When all flights after 9/11 were suspended, Canada accepted diverted planes and Canadians opened up their homes to complete strangers.




I dunno about you, but it seems like we give a lot more than Britain.

   



kenmore @ Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:53 pm

fucking right we do... sure as hell helped in nine eleven ..bush didnt even mention canada as anything... we send help with floods, black outs, financial aid and every thing else.. we give a hell of alot more than we get..

   



Streaker @ Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:24 pm

We shouldn't be so preoccupied with whether or not the Americans think we're their #1 ally. We shouldn't want to be their #1 ally.

   



kenmore @ Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:30 pm

I absolutely agree streaker...

   



Wada @ Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:44 pm

Tokimini Tokimini:
Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
$1:
From WWII to the present day our prime ally has without doubt been Great Britain, and I can't see that changing anytime soon.


Wow, I just lost a tonne of respect for you since you're clearly ignorant... :roll:


Help this ignorant Yank out. What is your definition of "prime ally", the country that is closest, or the one you can count on? Mine is the ally that is the strongest and most trustworthy. The Brits' military is far larger, better equipped and better prepared. How many aircraft carrier battle groups does Canada have? How many subs (that actually work)? As for the trustworthy part, no offense but I would feel very uneasy if my country's most important ally was one that spawned the likes of Streaker and Mr Canada, and in case your thinking your our prime ally because of Afganistan, your the one who is ignorant. Canada is in Afganistan at the behest of NATO, not out of any friendship for the US.

As for you losing respect for me, I'm crushed of course, but I'll try to carry on.
Rest assured my feelings for you are unchanged. I still think your an ahole. :)


Holy what the fuck Tokimini! Your concerned about a couple of no-bodies from Canada after you lot gave us George W. Bush and his elite gangsters to worry about for eight years, F'in pinhead! :roll:

   



kenmore @ Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:03 pm

there are those of the OPINION that most of the worlds ills are a result of American policy and its unquenchable thirst for world dominance..which it is losing ground as the major power... and the shit continued with daddy bush, george wya bush and our own baby bush.. but hey elections are just around the corner for both countries.. maybe we can get a break from the madness

   



Tokimini @ Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:59 pm

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
Tokimini Tokimini:
Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
$1:
From WWII to the present day our prime ally has without doubt been Great Britain, and I can't see that changing anytime soon.


Wow, I just lost a tonne of respect for you since you're clearly ignorant... :roll:


Help this ignorant Yank out. What is your definition of "prime ally", the country that is closest, or the one you can count on? Mine is the ally that is the strongest and most trustworthy. The Brits' military is far larger, better equipped and better prepared. How many aircraft carrier battle groups does Canada have? How many subs (that actually work)? As for the trustworthy part, no offense but I would feel very uneasy if my country's most important ally was one that spawned the likes of Streaker and Mr Canada, and in case your thinking your our prime ally because of Afganistan, your the one who is ignorant. Canada is in Afganistan at the behest of NATO, not out of any friendship for the US.

As for you losing respect for me, I'm crushed of course, but I'll try to carry on.
Rest assured my feelings for you are unchanged. I still think your an ahole. :)


http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,95568,00.html

Also, during the Iranian Hostage crisis, it was benevolent Canadians who rescued those Americans... :roll:

In the wake of Hurrican Katrina, Canadian Rescue Teams were the FIRST to respond.

In WWII, the Devil's Brigade was created which was a regiment of soldiers that were American and Canadian and were pretty much the first co-national special forces unit that was one big group.

During the Cold War, we set up the DEW (Distant Early Warning)Line to serve as an early warning barrier guarding against potential Soviet Bombers.

We have Norad, which helps oversee all of North American Airspace.

We have NAFTA, and the Americans continue to get the resources and energy they need from Canada.

When all flights after 9/11 were suspended, Canada accepted diverted planes and Canadians opened up their homes to complete strangers.




I dunno about you, but it seems like we give a lot more than Britain.


We give you a lot too, as neighbors should.

Halifax explosion of 1917 - Literally trainloads of relief supplies, aid workers, doctors and nurses left from Boston to aid the city.

Quebec ice storm of 1998 - Hundreds of line crews came from New York and New England to restore power. Many were the first aid some towns got, and I believe one of the Americans was killed restoring power.

Lebenon evacuation - US Navy helicopters ferried stranded Canadians safely out to waiting ships.

NAFTA - Canada has preferred access to the US market, the most lucrative in the world. Last time I checked, you enjoyed about an $80 billion a month surplus. Any other country in the world would love to have that. You guys just bitch. As for "secure oil" every week some cabinet minister threatens to use oil as a weapon and forums like this are full of comments like "let the southern bastards freeze in the dark." Not my idea of secure.

The US National Institutes of Health provides millions of dollars in grants to Canadian scientists and institutions. Google "NIH grants", Canada - over 10,000 entrys


NORAD - You have by far the most area to be protected, we by far provide the most funding to protect it.

None of this has anything to do with the fact that our most vital ally, in terms of manpower, equipment, history, cooordination or anyother criteria you can think of is Great Britain.

   



travior @ Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:13 pm

I would rather have an ally that acts on my behalf because they belive that it is morally the right thing to do (Canada) and not one that blindly follows (Tony Blair).

George Bush (yes, I admit, I voted for him. It was the lesser of two evils.) was facing a luke-warm presidency until 9-11. I doubt he would have been reelected had 9-11 not happened. He saw war as a way to continue the momentum that his presidency sorely needed. Blair was facing his own quandrums and needed an opportunity to try and improve his image and quickly latched onto Bush when he talked about going after terrorists.

Yes, Canada is a good ally. One that we give grief to every time they try to sell a piece of lumber or go fishing in the oceans. I cannot understand why they don't jump at every opportunity to help us get out of our messes everytime we decide to play World Police. (End sarcasm).

I'm glad Canada doesn't feel as though they need to flex their muscles every time some idiot opens their mouth and shows their lack of intelligence.

I would like to see Canada beef up their military. A carrier would be nice but there are a lot of support ships that would be required for a carrier battle group.

Might be benificial to have something to fall back on when all the US forces are tied up in the middle east and asia. I would be hesitant to expect a neighbor to help me out when he is being pummeled himself. I would want to have the means to defend myself.

   



Individualist @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:30 pm

"We give you a lot too, as neighbors should."

Don't remind nationalists of that. It bursts their hate bubble, and makes them very upset. And an upset Canadian nationalist, while not terribly dangerous, can be very annoying.

   



Brent Swain @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:52 pm

We don't get tied up trying to control other people's turf. We defend ours and respect the turf of others, unlike the USanians.
Why would Canadians want to be too closely identified with the most hated nation on the planet, people who are so embarased by their country that they feel the need to wear our flag on their backpacks when they travel. How many other people are so ashamed of their country that they would feel the need to wear a US flag on their backpacks.
You are lucky to have us next door , so your republicans have a place to buy their Cuban Ciguars.
Brent

   



kenmore @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:45 pm

well said Brent Swain.. well said

   



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