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Then why don't you do it?

   

Why don't you just pull out of Iraq?


It's not as simple as just dropping everything all at once, and there are innumerable reasons why we can't...Yet...

   

Or why we ever would do it. Its simple commerce. If Market A is closer than Market B, but the prices for what you're selling are the same, Why would you waste time going to Market B when you get the same return?

   

Because sooner or later, you become so reliant on Market A that you become too dependent on the health of Market A to the exclusion of Market B and when Market A's economy goes in the crapper, so does yours, even though Market B's is doing just fine.

And also, the question arises whether it's all about the almighty buck to the exclusion of all else

   

Indeed. First thing you have to do is to tell Ford, Chrysler, and General Motors to close down their Ontario factories and get their butts back to the USA. Then you can really tweak us by having the numerous Canadian firms that hold US defense contracts cancel them and tell our military to go looking for their hardware somewhere else because Canadians are sick of taking all of those American dollars.

Then be sure to tell the vultures on Wall Street to divest of their Canadian holdings (some US$220 to US$550 billion - estimates vary) while having Canadian firms divest of their US holdings (some US$15-US$50 billon).

Once all of that is done then it'll also be time to close the border to all those damnable American tourists who clog up cash registers in Canada with their pesky dollars.

Should I go on or am I making my point?

   

So then when Market A goes to the shit, you ship more to Market B, but once Market A gets better, guess what? People go back to Market A because its cheaper to get to Market A than B.

   

Of course, you're assuming that you haven't ignored Market B for so long taking the easy way out pursuing Market A that Market B is still relevant to what it is that you make. If Market B's still flexible, great. If not, then you've made your proverbial bed.

   

Pretty much.

   

I'm afraid that you seem to have missed the mark entirely.

Kenmore was talking about Canada standing on it's own; not about becoming xenophobic overnight and closing the border...

Tokimini responded in a somewhat expected defensive manner and said: "Why don't you do it?" as in; "Why don't you guys stand on your own?"

I replied by using an Iraq analogy to demonstrate that we can't simply just cut off America much the same way that America can't simply cut off Iraq. It will have to be a very slow, and carefully implemented (and not to mention painful) process...

I don't think any of us are advocating a U.S./Mexico border fence/wall to be along the U.S./Canada border or closing down all ties overnight and imposing sanctions on ourselves...

   

When were we ever the USA's prime ally?

   

I'd say around WWII onward...

especially during the cold war...

   

There's one point several people keep ignoring. After the US pressured Canada to abandon the Avro Arrow, the Autopact was created to give jobs to all those Ontario manufacturers who lost work. And all their employees. The US federal government in the late 1950s didn't like Canada manufacturing what was then the world's most advanced jet fighter. It's all very complicated.

   

Yeah, but it isn't like those line jobs were as valuable and carried the same overall benefit as the jobs that were decimated. If I could go back in time, I'd point out to Brother Diefenbaker that there are non-Arrow consumer benefits the program carries that are worth far more to the overall Canadian economy than the nominal cost of the military program. The boy from Prince Albert was suckered into a bill of goods and we've been paying the price ever since.

The 20th Century could've been Canada's as Cartier said had we collectively believed in ourselves. Hopefully, we'll get it right in the 21st.

   

From WWII to the present day our prime ally has without doubt been Great Britain, and I can't see that changing anytime soon.

   

Wow, I just lost a tonne of respect for you since you're clearly ignorant...

   

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