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Streaker the necro bitch strikes again....

   

I thought it was boring.

   

So we are no longer considerd Uncle Sams poodle? Wonderful. What an a honour.
Real friends warn you when you are screwing up.

   

Been quite a while since I've read it, but as I recall it was anything but a literary masterpiece.

The war was a lot of fun (to read), though.

   

Hear! Hear!

   

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't Bush also slow to respond to the 9/11 Attacks? I mean the slowest. Kind of hard for the U.S. to critisize Canada for being a slow response, when they were just as slow if not slower.

Also Britain was also attacked, they had sub-way bombings so it would be pretty much suspected that they would go blindly in a war.

This article makes the U.S. look like it's the prime person in the world, like everything that ever gets done, gets done through the U.S.

Personally, I'd like to have a good relationship with the U.S. but honestly I don't care much about it. American's are always on Canada's back, now we are going through our years of getting on there back and they can't take it. What would America do without its buddy Canada beside it!. I am sure America will forgive us for not supporting it like it thought we did.

   

In short, you're agreeing with PM Mulroney.

   

face it the good old US is about the good old US and it has been the history to be # uno in the world.. so they dont know much or want to for that matter about Canada.. they have always had countries wanting to kiss their ass and they think they are the world leader.. so why would they thank us for anything..Britain and France..once world leaders are doing a good job at lobbying for the number one ass kisser to Uncle Sam.. so why give a shit.. they dont.

   

Mulroney almost sold us out to the states and now harper is an ass kissing PM. how is that its only when the torys are in power that its important to have good relations with the US.. ? I have lived in a border town all my life and when you go over to shop they treat you like you were an alien with 3heads... turn it around and we kiss their ass when they come over here and we even give them the sales tax back.. go figure.... and no I am not anti american...

   

Yeah Righttttttttttttt!!!!!!

   

BS. Mulroney and the extremely close relationship he had with Ronald Reagan were instrumental in laying the foundation for the creation of the wealth that Canada is enjoying right now.

Brian Mulroney stands out still as the ONLY world leader who has ever had the direct dial number to the Presidential bedroom at the White House. He could call Reagan directly and not have to mess with the State Department and layers and layers of underlings in order to speak with the President.

Contrast that with Chretien whose US Ambassador openly endorsed Al Gore for President in 2000 and who openly worked to assist the Democrats in Ohio in that year and who was shocked! when George Bush dismissed a long tradition of new Presidents visiting Canada as their first order of business.

Making the point that Canada was no longer as important as it used to be.

But that's what you wanted, right?

This is what's funny about you Canadian anti-Americans: you celebrate antagonizing us, you celebrate irritating us, you even celebrate our enemies and then you wonder why we're not treating you like our best friends?

   

Phrased perfectly.




Oh no! We don't have a direct dial line to the president's bedroom! Time to cry because the president doesn't like us anymore. Oh no, the US president didn't visit us when he got into office, the only thing that validates my existence as a Canadian is knowing that president Bush thinks I'm important.



As a Canadian, I take offense at your last comment. Clearly we aren't important if the US doesn't think we are - that's the only thing that matters right? Go find some more 'important' friends. We don't need your help.


Canada should have good relations with the US, but not if it involves following their misguided foreign policy. Trade relations with the US are fine, it doesn't mean we have to follow them blindly. Besides, I contend that the US will become increasingly irrelevant in the next few decades. Canada should be forging ties with the EU and Asia, because that is where the power will shift to.

   

"Mulroney and the extremely close relationship he had with Ronald Reagan were instrumental in laying the foundation for the creation of the wealth that Canada is enjoying right now. Brian Mulroney stands out still as the ONLY world leader who has ever had the direct dial number to the Presidential bedroom at the White House. He could call Reagan directly and not have to mess with the State Department and layers and layers of underlings in order to speak with the President."

Yes and his stint as Prime Minister was such a wonderful success that Canadians still remember him as our most hated Prime Minister EVER, at least since opinion polls started being taken in the 1940's in Canada. His second term as PM brought us into recession (so I'd like some evidence for that statement that our economic boom here has anything to do with him; personally I'd say it's all about the fact that we happen to have a lot of oil). Partly as a result of all the Canadians who lost their jobs due to his economic policies, his support TANKED towards the end of his second term, and he stepped aside because everyone knew if he led the Tories they would tank in the next election--but he had damaged the party's approval so badly that it STILL tanked and lost badly.

Mulroney won his wonderful relationship with the U.S. in the first place by acting like a completely submissive toady--the biggest cultural memory of that being when he sang "When Irish Eyes Are Smiling" at the so-called Shamrock Summit between him and Reagan back on St. Patrick's Day, 1985. We all shudder to remember that moment. If that's the kind of person you think our leaders should emulate BartSimpson, just shows you know nothing about Canada.

BTW, Canada is absolutely important to the U.S., because of our resources. Unfortunately. Cheney has identified our oil for example as key to US energy security. That's why US corps are drooling to lock their control of our resources in even tighter through agreements like the SPP, which include energy. But being a branch-plant of the US economy is not necessarily great for Canada, because all of the money comes in processing and value-adding, not shipping out raw resources.

I completely agree with rationalist that trade is good, but deep integration is a specific type of economic agreement that goes way beyond just trade and locks us into a trilateral relationship that not only forces us to adopt US standards on everything, but limits our ability to seek trade with other countries, including emerging powers like the EU.

   

Two great posts from Rationalist and sthompson, you two sure save me a lot of typing.

   

As I said;



If you support taking steps to distance yourselves from us and not just as a matter of foreign policy, but as a matter of principle then what the hell is your problem getting all pissy about our recognizing this?

You wanted to distance your relations to us and you instead want to be closer to other nations. We've recognized that when appropriate (meaning during Chretien's reign).

So what the hell is your problem?

   

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