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Diogenes @ Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:38 pm

http://tbknews.blogspot.com/2008/04/hem ... -fuel.html


Saturday, April 19, 2008
Earth Day 2008: Hemp for Food and Fuel!
On this weekend before Earth Day, with celebrations worldwide, we find ourselves gripped globally by a food shortage caused in large part by rising fuel costs. Adding to this problem is the increasingly serious population growth. Indeed, I am reminded during this crisis of two pertinent subjects: Firstly, Paul Ehrlich, who wrote The Population Bomb in 1968, but who was roundly assailed and dismissed at the time. Unfortunately, he is being proved correct, as common sense would have told us all along. The second subject that keeps popping up provides a major solution to the world's food and energy crises. It's been sitting there all along, vilified and suppressed by the ruling elite, who appear to care not a fig for the world's poor and suffering but who only seem to want to make their fortunes off polluting and destroying the earth. What I'm talking about is the prohibition of one of the world's most versatile plants: Hemp or cannabis.

The history of hemp is long and varied, and need not be reproduced here but can be viewed in part in the videos included here. Suffice it to say that, rather than for "moral" purposes having to do with the medicinal or recreational uses of one strain of cannabis, the prohibition of hemp has largely revolved around the desire by the ruling elite to horde and profit off of the resources they have virtually monopolized since the 1930s and earlier. Indeed, in my mind one of the greatest criminals in history is William Randolph Hearst, who, along with his "hired Anslinger," so to speak, almost singlehandedly managed to destroy the American hemp industry. Now, much of the environmental destruction can be placed squarely on the heads of this tiny minority of monopolizers. With hemp, there would have been little need for the oil industry and its attendant globe-destroying pollution and degradation. Another benefit of hemp production and the non-necessity of Middle Eastern oil would have been the lack of funding for "radical" Islamic extremists whose stated goal is total global domination, using billions of petrodollars currently at their disposal.

Instead of a peaceful, clean and well-nourished planet and populace, we are currently poised on the edge of the abyss from which many millions will never recover. The prohibition of hemp constitutes one of the greatest crimes against humanity ever committed. Millions of human beings will now die, millions more will be enslaved under a totalitarian system of government, and the suffering will go on, all for the want of a plant that has more uses than can be listed here.

The people in power who have upheld the criminal hemp prohibition should be ashamed, but I fear that they have no conscience at all - an assertion constantly validated by their actions. If the ruling elite cannot make massive amounts of money off of something, it will not only fall by the wayside, it will be deliberately kicked there. And that relegation is what has happened to hemp, a true gift of nature that could still solve many of our problems globally - if these powermongering sociopaths will step out of the way.

Will humankind wake up and make the necessary changes now that it faces an appalling crisis of a magnitude never before seen? I certainly hope so.

Lift the hemp ban now!

(In 1992, when Jerry Brown was running for President, I stood up at one of his press conferences and asked him, "Isn't it time to look to hemp to solve many of the world's problems?" He blanched, and one of his cameramen groaned and removed the camera from me. Brown deflected the question, answering only my previous question about his international policies. That's the sort of fearful environment we've lived in that has now led us to this atrocious mess.)

Study: U.S. Hemp Ban Hurts Environment, Economy

Hemp Used to Clean Radioactivity

   



commanderkai @ Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:33 am

Riight...completely ignore that the food crisis of rising corn and other foods relates to the increasing demand of biofuel...which literally is worse pollution and efficiency wise. Higher corn prices means more farmers are going to grow corn, instead of wheat or tomatoes and such, while corn is used to make fuel. This corn/barley/oats bushel loss means higher milk, egg, chicken, cattle, and other animal prices.

And the energy crisis is nothing of the sort. Hell we have discovered new oil fields in North Dakota and off the coast of Brazil, there is plenty of energy. But this "energy crisis" is brought by low production (a la US not building more refineries and such) and high demand (CHINA/INDIA). Once we stop pussyfooting around and actually become serious with oil, then the energy crisis won't be such anymore.

Oh and how the fuck is Hemp the cure all problem for oil and food crisis? I can make damn shit up too. WEED WOULD SOLVE ALL VIOLENCE IN INNER CITIES! WEED CURES CANCER! WEED MAKES ME GOD! Yeah none of that shit makes sense, he doesn't even argue how weed solves anything. Its two separate issues

   



Diogenes @ Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:51 am

"WEED WOULD SOLVE ALL VIOLENCE IN INNER CITIES! WEED CURES CANCER! WEED MAKES ME GOD! Yeah none of that shit makes sense, he doesn't even argue how weed solves anything. Its two separate issues"


Of course it doesn't make sense to a nonsensical buffoon, nor will it ever!

Any asshole who sees weed and not hemp is so encapsulated by boxed in thinking and has been proagandised to the point of a raving idiot the thw PDoc of the world must be frathing at the mouth to "prescribe" the "happy pill" du jour for him, or her

   



Rationalist @ Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:55 am

Of course hemp should be legal, banning it is stupid and counterproductive.

However, hemp isn't some miracle crop that will solve the world's problems if only we grew hemp.

Commanderkai, on the other hand, needs to relax a bit. Hey, it is 4/20 after all, perhaps you should smoke a joint or two to mellow out :wink:

   



commanderkai @ Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:09 am

You haven't argued anything. Neither has he. Oh and EXCUSE ME for using the word weed. What's next? Are you going to attack me for saying the word car instead of automobile? Now what is the point? How is hemp or weed or Mary Jane or whatever else you want to call it the miracle cure for everything? OOOH we can make it into shitty clothing.

He jumps from how we're all going to get fucked by rising food and fuel prices, and then bitches about how HEMP is fucking illegal because the "ruling elite" say so.

So instead of clicking that bullshit link and reading this douchebag's whinings, I googled up uses for hemp.

It can make shit into clothing: We have cotton, wool, linens, silk, nylons, and other sources for this. We don't need it for clothing or rope

For Food: It can make it into salad dressing and cooking oils. We got shit for that too, its called canola, olive, butter, and I'm sure there's other shit too.

For fuel: On this site that I've found, it says it can be used as diesel fuel. Well it doesn't really say how, but it also discusses how it was good lamp oil before electricity and oil. Good to know if I ever go back in time.

And once again, this article already states that INDUSTRIAL USE of hemp is legal in 30 countries

"Today hemp is staging a comeback, used by fashion designers and mass producers alike. In addition to established producers such as China, Romania, Hungary and France hemp crops are now also grown in Australia, Canada, Britain and Germany where for decades there had been none. It is legally cultivated in at least 30 countries around the world, including every G-7 country. Even in the USA an experimental crop is being grown in Hawaii under a government license."

Wow, so there you go, it is legal and it is being used for different purposes.

http://www.taima.org/en/fibre.htm

There's the link.

Now unlike your article, or your shitty quoting. They actually EXPLAIN uses and how it might solve things, not start bitching about the ruling elite and capitalism. And they don't connect two separate issues like immature brats. Nor do they hail it as the miracle cure for the world's problems.

   



commanderkai @ Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:15 am

Rationalist Rationalist:
Of course hemp should be legal, banning it is stupid and counterproductive.

However, hemp isn't some miracle crop that will solve the world's problems if only we grew hemp.

Commanderkai, on the other hand, needs to relax a bit. Hey, it is 4/20 after all, perhaps you should smoke a joint or two to mellow out :wink:


Yeah, I'm plenty relaxed. Ooh people use drugs and pretend you give a shit about other things to my point seems more valid. That's fucking brilliant.

Riight...so harp on me for posting a bullshit article. I never mentioned my stance on "Hemp" which even you're basically saying its weed or a joint or Mary Jane or whatever cool nickname the hippies made for it. If we were arguing for the legalization of pot or weed, then sure, but if I'm going to post an article barely even discussing the point on how Hemp will solve the world's problems and be hailed as the miracle crop, I'd deserve to be harped on.

Hell I even did his damn job by getting an actual link of shit hemp does, and that one actually doesn't bitch about capitalism or whatever. Hell it even states its FREAKING legal for industrial uses. Covering up a "LEGALIZE POT" topic with a few layers of bullshit is just annoying.

   



Diogenes @ Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:28 am

He he he

Here's the deal

You have reached a determination and swear by it what would be the point in wasting time to disuade you?

   



commanderkai @ Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:39 am

Diogenes Diogenes:
He he he

Here's the deal

You have reached a determination and swear by it what would be the point in wasting time to disuade you?


I haven't reached any damn determination. You haven't ARGUED ANYTHING. I argued a better case FOR YOU than you did. I did it without bullshit rants about capitalism and the ruling elite. I showed how it can help the world with its different agricultural and industrial applications, you haven't.

If you argued something, then I'd maybe be more open to a debate. But if you choose an article that argues nothing, lists two separate issues (food and oil crisis with Hemp legalization) without making any sort of connection.

So far I brought up the points that the illegalization of hemp nor the "Population Bomb" bullshit has anything to do with the current food and oil crisis, without refutation by you. I even provided different examples where Hemp is used for industrial and agricultural applications, without any acknowledgment nor that Hemp for industrial use is LEGAL in 30 countries.

What exactly is your argument? Is it a miracle crop that will save us all, or are you just finding a crappy site to try to legalize pot in "honor" of 4-20-08, which honestly means NOTHING to actual pot smokers since they'd do it anyway.

So in the next post, say your thesis or your argument, because I haven't found a rational statement yet.

   



ridenrain @ Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:04 am

Because this is in the Canada/US relations section, I'm guessing Diogenes will see this as a good reason for the US to change their drug laws. Yeah.. good luck with that.. :roll:

commanderkai is right. This is silly. Why do most of te arguments for legalizing drugs all sound like their written by grade 10 dope smokers?

   



Benoit @ Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:22 am

Every plant that's relaxing us prevent excess consumption of food and senseless consumption of gas.

   



ridenrain @ Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:27 am

Benoit Benoit:
Every plant that's relaxing us prevent excess consumption of food and senseless consumption of gas.


Since the stereotype of pot smokers is a sudden craving for munchies, and since it's used by cancer patients to induce an appetite, I’d say you’re wrong again.

   



Benoit @ Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:36 am

ridenrain ridenrain:
Benoit Benoit:
Every plant that's relaxing us prevent excess consumption of food and senseless consumption of gas.


Since the stereotype of pot smokers is a sudden craving for munchies, and since it's used by cancer patients to induce an appetite, I’d say you’re wrong again.


About chamomile plant then?

   



ridenrain @ Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:45 am

Grow all the chamomile you want. Pack a big hockey bag full of chamomile and walk accross the border for all I care.
There's no market for chamomile.

There is a huge US market for pot.
There's a huge organized crime industry for pot.

   



Benoit @ Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:51 am

ridenrain ridenrain:
There is a huge US market for pot.
There's a huge organized crime industry for pot.


Humans are not made to serve black markets; liberalized markets are made to serve humans.

   



ridenrain @ Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:53 am

Please elaborate.

   



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