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Well everyone,

It seems that we're all fired up because of the American-bashing. In a way I feel sorry for Canada being so close to its neighbour. As a fellow Commonwealth member - yay the British Empire! - I feel for you! I'd rather live in Canada right now than live through another sorry four years of our Bush whipping boy PM John Howard

BTW if any of you forum posters ever come to Australia, we'll love you! Right now, it's Winter here and it's a sunny 19 degrees celsius.

BartSimpson, I hate to say this - and sorry for reiterating what you may already know - most of the world doesn't like America for one reason or another. What concerns me is that Americans generally don't care. Now I'm over-generalising here, but that is the impression the rest of the world gets. On a Pro-Canada site, I don't expect anything less than at least some antagonistic or negative ill-feeling towards America. I agree that flaming is never good, no matter how justified you think it is, but I'm glad you didn't handle a flame with a flame. (See, there are some Americans who can actually do that! BartSimpson, mate, I just wish there were more of you).

The anti-American flames on here are quite funny actually. The rhetoric is amusingly vitriolic but partially understandable, even if I do condemn flaming. But I do agree with the person who wrote in all caps (Rails1996) - Fox News is bad news, it's not news it's pro-Bush propaganda. My family were watching the Fox coverage of the American presidential election and it was horrifying. If that kind of manipulation e.g. "100 days before Bush's victory" (Fox News, 2005) ever occured in Australia, there'd be riots, but the Americans don't seem to care or know what's going on. And we have compulsory preferential voting so unlike the Americans the political parties have to advertise to everyone because everyone votes! It makes people at least know who is running their country.

Can anyone tell me please: does Canada have compulsory voting?

   

That's what all America-haters say.

   

rgmontals wrote:

Hey rgmontal G'Day Mate! I spent a year as a backpacker in AUS & 7 months of it in sydney and loved it. I lived in kings cross (natch) and on liverpool street. I must say the Scubar was my place of choice but there were LOTS!

Canada does not have any compulsory voting. Its totally left to the individual and voter turnout is not generally high but has been of late due to close races between parties.

Go Swans!

   

I don't really agree with compulsory voting. I don't think it's very democratic when people force you to go out and vote, and if you don't you'll get fined.

I think it should be an individual's choice.

   

See what happens when you hit the button twice?

   

Hey! That is not nice! You leave me and my wife/cousin outta this!

   

That's Fantastic. But, it doesn't change the fact that if you gave said America hater a visa, or a fullbright scholarship, he'd sell his sister and
be on the next flight out of his present shithole.

   

See what happens when illiterates get a hold of a computer?

   

Can't handle the stupidity!!!!!!!!



*Ack!!!*


*WHUMP!*

   

Yeah bart simpson , your english is always bang on EH !!! You puppet

   

That's what all American-haters in denial say.

   

No, my English isn't always 'bang on'. Sometimes I tell people like yourself to go f*** yourself, but I won't do that since that's not very polite. 'Bang on' would be telling you something along the lines of equating your grasp of colloquial witticism with your command of the capitalisation of proper nouns. Again, that would not be polite so I will simply defer and let it go in the proper Canadian fashion.

   

Well I do....go FCUK YOURSELF... BART

   

Gidday,
A relative of mine is an MP down your way. He's pretty conservative and is ardently pro-American and a Republican (An Aussie Republican is a bit different from a US Republican for the Canadians who are reading this) to boot.

To be fair, most Americans are barely aware that a world exists beyond their own town, workplace, or etc. Then there's the next group that is aware that a lot of people in the world don't like us and we don't care, true enough. But we do a get a chuckle out of the fact that our indifference to their irrelevance really, really, pisses them off.

Americans have a fine tradition of not caring about people who hate America and don't understand it while we also celebrate those people such as Alexis De Tocqueville who understand us better than we could ever understand ourselves. It may surprise some people that we also acknowledge enemies who understand us well, such as Japan's Admiral Yamamoto and Emperor Hirohito.

France has been our enemy for almost all of the years of our history and you'll note we don't get our shorts in a knot when someone mentions that Jacques Chirac doesn't like our choice of leadership. We just stop buying French wine and cheese and then when our heads get clear we also stop buying their steel, their aircraft, and their shitty little cars that come standard with a quarter in the ashtray so you can call a tow truck to get them home from the place you bought them.

Spain turned their backs on us and walked away. We're unlikely to forget this and the day will come when we will return the favour.

At the same time, Albania, Armenia, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Estonia, Fiji, Georgia, Italy, Japan, Kazakhstan, South Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Mongolia, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Tonga, United Kingdom, & Ukraine stood by us and we won't forget this and the day will come when we will return the favour.

The good folks in the Ivory Coast recently asked the awful Americans to save them from the French. Since they kicked the hell out of France quite adequately we figured they were okay. Still, who did they come to for help?

I don't mean to belabour the point, but we do understand that a lot of people don't like us. And we don't care because most of them want to BE us. France wants to be a superpower...I'll try not to laugh, here. So does China, so does India, Indonesia is starting to think big, and who knows? When Spain was #1 in the world everyone hated them. When England was #1 in the world everyone hated them. Now it's our turn. On the upside for us, we have far more friends than England or Spain ever had.

When Admiral Lord Nelson fought the Spanish and the French he fought alone. Not that he needed the help, it is sad that Britain had to stand alone.

So, yes, a lot of people dislike us. We're used to that. A lot of people like us, though, and we like them right back.

A lot of these Canadians on this site who have flame wars with me? If they were threatened I'd grab my gun and go help them kick the hell out of whoever threatened them and I know they'd do the same for me. We may disagree and we may do so fervently, but when push comes to shove we know who our friends our.

Perhaps 'friends' isn't the right way to describe the relationship.

In many ways, we're family.

We might bitch and moan at each other but God help whoever crosses one as they have the other to deal with, too.

   

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