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Ya know, after reading that post by "Richard" four or five times, ...not bad, not bad at at all. Sure beats the usual "you're an idiot if you don't see things my way" attitude. Guess I am a slow learner, but I do love Canada, but NOT because I'm supposed too. I love it because of the "good" ones that gave a shit, gave their lives, dedicaded their careers, and believed in improving this country, not the opportunistic bastards who had a paid education, and made the right political moves, who, by-hook-or-by-crook, made it too the "top"-we all know who I mean-CRETIEN & his crew, for those slower than I am. Good one Rich...

   

It seems that both in the U.S. and in Canada there are people who dislike what is going on in society. I find myself feeling like AbsoluteSS sounds in his first post: Genuinely angry and wanting to leave. The fact that we would be going opposite directions gives me pause for thought.

I think part of our anger as citizens of our own countries comes from our feeling of helplessness. Aside from a single vote among millions, aside from devoting ones life to campaigning or activism, there is a perception that there is little that one can do about the evils in the world. This is my perception.

Greed, power, and corruption are evils which form the nucleus of most of the things we are bitching about. They will be around regardless of ones country, or ones political system. It is not lost on me that Plato, or was it Aristotle wrote about the very same things which are issues today.

We have made tremendous progress along some fronts, but along some of the most basic, we havenÂ’t changed much in a couple of thousand years.

Ken

   

kwoollis, hear ya, thanks for the response. Makes ya think..

   

So move where you like things best. Think the system is better in the US? Go! Like it better here in Canada? Come! Figure the Republic of Outer Zambonia is more to your liking? Be my guest. Remember to ask questions though, and the second you start thinking that money is more important than people you oughtta move to Mars or someplace else you can't breathe.

Where ever this sends you...have a nice trip!

   

Working on it as we speak.

At the very least I will be studying in Ottawa, and if my citizenship gets recognized, I'll be in for good.

My dad is a Canadian Citizen by delayed registration of birth, and I am working on the same.

See ya soon, maybe!

I wonder if average IQ level will go down in each country after my move.

   

I can tell you that I am not going to live in canada. All the politicans do is waist our money on things like gun regestration. And heathcare does not work anymore. Furthermore we are caught up on haveing this "Diversity" that the european Or Canadians have fallen by the side lines. People that are of different skin colour or form some other country with a diferent religon seem to get the red carpet while we sand on the field in the mud. And this happens constantly. The American melting pot is a way better. you take up the american way.

Our laws if you can call them that are crap. People are getting away with so much, or they get let off because they diden't have a speedy trial.

that's it Im done.

   

BUH BYE !

   

Yep, I know some of us have traveled a lot in our lives and the one thing that i have learned from my travels in Europe and the Middle East is that the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. I guess after my last assignment i came to the conclusion that i should probably concentrate on my own lawn--water and fertilize my own lawn instead of jumping fences to look at others.

BTW-Nice sig Rev.
Kurt

   

Thanks Kurt. It was created for me by a very cool guy who has been known to frequent these parts. I thank the Fatman once again.

To stay where you are, something I've chosen to do too, requires that you like the system there at least enough to feel it can be made even more to your liking. That doesn't work for people who can see nothing positive in the direction their country is taking and want their country to adopt the systems and attitudes of another country, especially if the majority in that country do not agree.

   

So ya, thought ya, might like to go to the show.
To feel the warmth, Â… that "space cadet" glow.
Well I've got some bad news for you sunshine.
Pink isn't well. He stayed back at the hotelÂ…
~Floyd

Sorry, I donÂ’t know why these forums make be break out in songsÂ…

I'm not sure what Canada is doing regarding gun registration, but I'll be its similar to the gun laws we have here. I have never perceived these to be huge money hogs, but there are strict rules on who can purchase guns and what sorts of background checks need to be done. A legitimate gun purchase can take months, whereby someone on the street (who wouldnÂ’t want a legitimate gun anyway) can get one from a hundred different sources.



In the US there are literally thousands if not hundred of thousands of people without health care insurance. Many of these are do have coverage from low-income subsidized health care (if their state is one which happens to have a program- its all state by state, you know). I have had to make use of this a few times in my life, and I can tell you, its frustrating having to wait four to six months to have a cavity filled or a standard physical exam. There is also a large class of people who make too much to qualify for these programs, but whose jobs to not offer insurance benefits. These folks have no coverage at all. So I caution you to check out our healthcare system before you come over for that reason.



You are absolutely going to love our Affirmative Action laws. Have you been following the controversy surrounding admittance practices of one of our universities in the South? They were sued because they gave preferential admissions treatment to minorities. The Federal Supreme Court mostly upheld their decisions. In employment, in school admissions, for scholarships, and aid programs our society is infused with programs and laws that attempt to counter the perceived disadvantages that minorities face. I have heard very similar statements to your coming from US folks. I don't agree with them, but they are prevalent and you will be in good company when you come over.



Our penal system too is overcrowded and under funded, and many criminals get let out early because there is no room. The slowness and inefficiency of our legal system is well known, and some high-profile cases over the years have left the impression (well deserved) that if you can afford the best lawyers, you can almost get away with anything. Every country on earth has that same problem and the same complaints.

I guess, what I am trying to point out is that most likely our two governmental systems are more alike than they are different – at least when it comes to the issues and the problems we face. There are some very real differences, but many of the things which make us the angriest just take another form elsewhere.

If I thought we could do it without anger and without bashing our own or each others countries, I would suggest a new thread which is entirely devoted to exploring what we don't like and finding parallels (if they exist) in the other country. This way when each of us hikes it across the border, there will be no illusions of utopia. I don't think we can do it without the anger and insulting the other members of these forums who happen to like their country. Too bad.

I hope you use the forums as I intend to: to find out about these issues. It won't change my decision, but it may help soften the inevitable disillusionment when I get there.

Ken

   

Our gun regestraion has passed ONE BILLION Dollars. this was only expected to cost 800 million over 5 yers. We have over 300,000 criminals now because they are not regestring there guns. GUNS DON'T NEED REGESTRATION, PEOPLE DO. Know when you look to our Canadian Forces, Outch, we don't even have the minimum ammount soliders to contribute to be apart of the U.N. Furthermore we buy some disle subs that breakdown more then the Sea Kings.

Canada has droped to 8th place to live according to the U.N. From 3rd to 8th. What is this? We are on a down hill slope, that is getting slipperey.

Just recently in the news, a store owener was robbed and went after the robber with a broom. Then she turned around with a knife in her hands. So he beat her ass with a broom stick. The Crown then tried the store owener for assault. What is that? She comes and tries to rob him. And as for the woman she got 2 months.

   

The store owner , a former Korean Police man was let go with no charges...

   

I read the article on Canada's drop in the UN's list as well. One note that was made in the article (either from the Post of the Ottawa citizen, I forget which ran the story) was that there is actually very little difference between the top 10 slots.

I am not sure that a slip from 3 to 8 when you are still in the top 10 in the world is as dramatic as it sounds. Also, societies do not change a whole lot in just a year or two. It seems, like investing, it would be wisest for one to look at things over long periods of time, rather than reacting to short term trends. Six years in a row in the top 10 is what I would consider a medium term trend. I havenÂ’t looked at the data for the five years previous to these six, but I would be willing to bet Canada was right up there.

Ken

   

The last statistics I saw indicated approximately 40 million people in the U.S. are without medical coverage. I've yet to see statistics which take into account people who work at their jobs ONLY because it offers health insurance , but at the company I presently work at , medical benefits are the only reason most people work there - and the company employs several hundred people. The catch 22 is that the factory is so old , dirty , and chock full O' pollutants that employees will likely require medical care if they work there long term. Approximately 60% of all workers there are temps at any given time , therefore the company does not have to provide any medical benefits , and since the turn over is so great , they keep a steady flow of temp workers coming in to keep the company going while saving lot's of money not having to pay for health benefits.

   

I wasn't sure of the statistics, so I understated a bit. Quite a bit....

   

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