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Question about Canada's history with the US

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BartSimpson @ Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:05 am

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
And I hate Winnipeg (and area surrounding) for being totally full of pot-heads and crack-heads and criminals.


So I take it you REALLY hate Parliament?

   



Clogeroo @ Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:45 am

Alberta can't be that bad you should be blessed to be born there and not starving like the rest of the world is.

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fifeboy @ Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:00 am

$1:
Yes, I'm joking. I don't hate everything in it.

Just Ralph Kline, and he's GONE

   



Arctic_Menace @ Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:21 am

$1:
Sometimes I wonder? WHY AM I HERE. What did I do to god to be placed in a town that humps the city I hate the most (in Canada, atleast) and hates everything I believe in and the very place I wish to be in?


In Buddhism, this is karmic retribution. You did something in your past life that warranted for you to be in this position now.

Oh, and you live in Alberta... :wink:


Seriously man, move to Ottawa. Not too big, not too small, good Liberal-minded people(in the main part of Ottawa at least), and there's usually something to do...You just gotta look for it, and sometimes it finds you...

   



Arctic_Menace @ Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:22 am

$1:
So I take it you REALLY hate Parliament?


ROTFL


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Mr_Canada old @ Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:53 pm

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
$1:
Sometimes I wonder? WHY AM I HERE. What did I do to god to be placed in a town that humps the city I hate the most (in Canada, atleast) and hates everything I believe in and the very place I wish to be in?


In Buddhism, this is karmic retribution. You did something in your past life that warranted for you to be in this position now.

Oh, and you live in Alberta... :wink:


Seriously man, move to Ottawa. Not too big, not too small, good Liberal-minded people(in the main part of Ottawa at least), and there's usually something to do...You just gotta look for it, and sometimes it finds you...
I know, I want to move to Ottawa, :cry:

But my mother hates Ontario.... So I can't till I move out and have enough of my own money.... She says that we arn't moving from Medicine Hell, sorry, Hat ever.

I have to stay in this hell hole for the rest of my teenage years. :cry: Why me?

How bad must I have been in the previous life? Was I bloody Hitler?!

   



Arctic_Menace @ Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:29 pm

Given your anti-American Attitude, it's quite possible...






































:wink:

   



stratos @ Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:29 am

In the early 1860's we got close to going to war over some Island in the NW part of the US thus SW part of Canada. Nothing came of it mostly do to the civil war the broke out in the US. I think the Island is called pig Island but i'm not positive on that name.

   



Arctic_Menace @ Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:46 am

We also came close to a conflict over the Alaskan Boundary dispute...

   



bootlegga @ Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:34 am

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

Instead, I hate the West and everything in it! ;)


Doesn't that mean you hate yourself? :wink:

   



Mr_Canada old @ Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:38 am

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
Given your anti-American Attitude, it's quite possible...

:wink:
:lol: As not to violate a certian Canadian law which I've read thouroughly looking for holes.... I can't add any more into this reply, ;)

The Alaskan Boundry Issue? I'm one of the few who knows about that, never mind cares.

I'm willing to go into a conflict over it right now. :x

$1:
Doesn't that mean you hate yourself?
I don't consider myself part of the West, ;) I was involuntarily born here, :(

Next train to Southern Ontario please....

$1:
In the early 1860's we got close to going to war over some Island in the NW part of the US thus SW part of Canada. Nothing came of it mostly do to the civil war the broke out in the US. I think the Island is called pig Island but i'm not positive on that name.

Vancouver Island? :P *dumbass guess*

   



JJ @ Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:53 am

It's funny that "officially" Canada and the United States did not have full diplomatic relations until 1947. Though that was more a product of Canadian colonialism than antagonism between the two countries.

Another good question to ask is when did British troops leave Canada? Because that would be a key date in the establishment of US-Canadian peace.

   



BartSimpson @ Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:57 pm

JJ JJ:
It's funny that "officially" Canada and the United States did not have full diplomatic relations until 1947. Though that was more a product of Canadian colonialism than antagonism between the two countries.

Another good question to ask is when did British troops leave Canada? Because that would be a key date in the establishment of US-Canadian peace.


More correctly when Canada was fully patriated by Queen Elizabeth's Proclamation of April 17, 1982 did Canada have fully sovereign relations with the USA. Up to that point the UK maintained a declining interest and a voice in Canadian foreign relations.

   



BartSimpson @ Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:21 pm

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
The Alaskan Boundry Issue? I'm one of the few who knows about that, never mind cares.


It's a fascinating slice of history, really. The USA in the 1840-1917 period held a lot of animosity towards the UK (and France) and the friction of the British superpower angling to control and contain the USA was kind of cool.

Interestingly, it was British machinations that brought the USA into becoming a superpower.

The British failure to recognize the USA as a nation in the early 1800's led to the USA building a first class Navy with which we asserted our sovereignty about the entire globe. Duringthe War of 1812 UK Naval policy was not to engage any US ships unless there was a 3:1 advantage - and even then, in a few battles the UK was defeated.

Then followed the rising industrialization and expansionism of the USA that the UK saw as a threat to their western claims in Canada - and they were right. There was a cold war in that period and that culminated with the British siding with the Confederacy in the US civil war.

Had the Brits (and the French) stayed out of that war it would likely have ended sooner and resulted in the USA losing a bit of resolve in the world.

Instead, there were key Americans who saw the civil war as a symptom of foreign meddling and they determined to make the USA an equal to the UK.

So after a bloody and expensive war the USA rebuilt its Navy and expanded militarily into the Pacific.

By 1900 the USA boasted a Navy that was the equal to any in Europe and by WW1 the USA boasted the first oil-fired capital ships.

In a bizarre irony, had the USA not established a military tradition and perceived a threat in the UK during the 1800's we would not have built up sufficiently to aid the UK in the 1900's.

   



JJ @ Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:04 am

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
JJ JJ:
It's funny that "officially" Canada and the United States did not have full diplomatic relations until 1947. Though that was more a product of Canadian colonialism than antagonism between the two countries.

Another good question to ask is when did British troops leave Canada? Because that would be a key date in the establishment of US-Canadian peace.


More correctly when Canada was fully patriated by Queen Elizabeth's Proclamation of April 17, 1982 did Canada have fully sovereign relations with the USA. Up to that point the UK maintained a declining interest and a voice in Canadian foreign relations.


That's really not an accurate summary at all. The 1982 business was only relevant to internal Canadian constitutional affairs, and had nothting to do with the nature of Canadian foreign relations. Canada was able to have an independent foreign policy ever since the statute of Westminster was signed in 1931. 1947 signaled the formal end of British influences in the Canadian-US relationship.

   



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