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Oh oh oh! Mr_C! Now's not the time for sarcasm... or irony for that matter

   

ROTFL Good point!

   

Your statement has nothing to do with the quoted text. While nobody can argue it's the backpacker capital of the world, Toronto gets 20 million tourists a year, and prior to 2003, had as many tourists as New York City.



If you really feel this way, why do you chose to live there?

   

How come you have a Soviet Union flag OPP? Why is it even on here anyway I don't think it is in use anymore?

   

I have to confess that I would take TO over NYC. Being from Buffalo, most of us hate NYC with a passion.

   

So...one. And from that, you derive a topic thread entitled "TORONTO thinks its Canada's NYC?" Pull your head out of your ass Dummy Matt. Does Kyle Rae stand alone as Mr. Toronto?



Ah, so he cited something in New York that he wanted to do here and from that, you derive that Toronto believes its Canada's NYC? Do you see yet the completely illogical leap you've made? Probably not.

Besides Dummy Matt, where was your critique of the rest of my post? It was nowhere to be found! Why, you couldn't counter it!



Dude, we've gone over this. When you write in crayon on your monitor, only you can see it. Your monitor doesn't absorb the crayon and send it to me. I wish it did because I imagine you have sloppy illegible handwriting that would give me a laugh, but it doesn't.

Reading over the rest of your posts, are you basing this on anything credible, such as surveys, documentaries or anything objective? Is this Dummy Matt rubbing his Marble of Garble and posting whatever dummy images float to its surface?

Here's what I think: Toronto just ate you up, shit you out and you're a bitter, insecure man because of it.

Toronto treats me just fine on the other hand. If I want to watch any major league sport, Toronto's my bag. Upcoming concerts all come here. Theatre productions premiere HERE before going to Broadway. In the summer, I can check out internationally recognized Caribana or wind it down with the Exhibition. In the meantime, I can enrich myself with the ROM, one of the few museums in the world trusted enough with the British Museum to receive their prized Egyptian artifacts. If I wish to catch fashion, Toronto is the capital second to none in this country. Unlike you and your simple decision of Zeller's Cherokee or Wal-Mart's Pennemans to meet your overweight fashion-needs, I quite enjoy Bloor Street where the shopping is world-class. And since I'm already on Bloor, I can walk on down to the University of Toronto which has educated or had as faculty 8 Nobel Prize winners. It's a bit away from Upper Canada College, but worth the trip. Plus, no trip to Toronto is complete without going to the CN Tower, instantly recognized world-wide as a Canadian landmark. While here, I can nip on up to Vaughan where the McMichael Art Gallery houses the biggest collection of the Group of Seven paintings, those silly little internationally revered artists from....Toronto! Nowadays we just have people like Margaret Atwood or Robertson Davies when he was alive. Then, when I'm walking around the Annex, I hope I can see Kenny vs. Spenny being filmed. (P.S. If they don't film that show in the annex, then where is it filmed?) Maybe this year they'll film an episode at Gay Pride Week, which shows the sheer cosmopolitan feel one can only get in Toronto. I hope it doesn't interfere with the Toronto Indy, I love going. But maybe this year I'll just attend the Roger's Cup, y'know, the Toronto stop on the professional tennis circuit. Unless I want to go to Centre Island and enjoy the majestic skyline. Hey, from there I can see the Royal Winter Agricultural Fair if I squint! You know that Fair Dummy Matt, the Queen's been too.

Sigh, poor Dummy Matt. (Or Mark, or whatever fool name you're giving yourself today)

   

Who the fuck is "Matt?"




Oh really? Maybe you're aware of a Toronto NFL franchise that I've somehow missed, because last time I went to an NFL game I had to make the Trek down the QEW to the great metropolis of Buffalo New York.



They all go to Chicago too. And Detroit for that matter. Is Detroit a World Class City Dayseed?



The last show I saw was the Producers. That ran on Broadway long before it opened in Toronto. And Matthew Broderick wasn't in the second stringToronto version. And it shut down early, just like Lord of the Rings, because Toronto isn't really a theatre town, despite it's pretensions to the contrary.



Caribana's o.k. if ducking gunfire is your thing. Personally, I like to stay as far away from the city as possible on that weekend. And they have a summer exhibition in pretty much every city in Canada. I went to the PNE in Vancouver one year. It had pretty much everything the CNE does, with nicer scenery.



NYC has half a dozen museums that put the ROM to shame. In fact, even lowly Ottawa has better museums than are found in Toronto. I'll take the War Museum over the ROM anyday thanks.



Montrealers would disagree.



No more so than Robson Street in Vancouver.



Yeah, but when Berkely came calling, U of T President Robert Birgeneau didn't think twice about ditching the U of T for a truly world class school.



I took some relatives from overseas to the CN Tower once. The response was "It's just a big communications tower, they've got those all over the world." I explained that this one is the tallest one on earth. In reply? "Who cares, let's get something to eat."



Their paintings don't depict many scenes of Toronto, do they?



Oh yeah, you won't find any famous authors living in New York.



WOW! You mean they actually film a second rate cable show in Toronto! Amazing! And I thought New Jersey had T.O. beat because that's where they film the Sopranos!



I have no idea. I've never even watched it. Please, do tell.


Yeah, it's not like New York, San Francisco or Sydney have a gay festival every summer.



I hate it. I like NASCAR. I go down to the Michigan 400 some years. That's way better because on an oval track you can see the whole race rather than just a short clip of it. Plus, you don't have to leave the stands to drink a beer. The time I went down to Toronto's Indy you had to leave the race and drink in a licenced enclosure away from the track. What's the point?



Not quite Wimbeldon though. Or Flushing Meadows for that matter.



The Island's are nice. If only they'd boot those whiney fucking squatters into the lake.

The Royal's good. But again, many cities have a similar annual agricultural fair.

   

Matt is the dummy name you had before you changed it to Mark. However, let's examine the OTHER parts of my post that Dummy Matt didn't address. Where is Dummy Matt's analysis of ONE Toronto councilor stating that something in Manhattan is something he'd like to emulate here being even close to the citizens of Toronto waltzing around each day claiming to be New York City?

Oh, there is no analysis of that part? Gee, I wonder why not? Could it be that Dummy Matt and his Marble of Garble got called out and whupped yet again?

Anyway, here we go examining his latest effort in remaining the forum's dumbest failed intellectual. Overall impression? They SHOULD have been written in crayon such that they may be more easily scrubbed from memory...



The CFL Dummy Matt. The CFL. And what town in this country is most capable of getting an NFL team? Think Dummy Matt, think.



Irrelevant. Concerts make Toronto a stop on the tour which isn't necessarily the same deal for other cities in Canada.



The point doesn't revolve around your failed pretensions at theatre. You're anything but smart, cultured or educated. Phantom of the Opera, Lion King, Momma Mia. I can only educate your dumb ass so much.



Oh I bet you stay away from a celebration of carribean culture. However, your bigotry aside, the festival is still recognized the world over and the only one of its kind in Canada. Nice try Dummy Matt, you really must love failing against me.



I don't care for your personal opinion on things. You're the world-class twit that wonders why people don't backpack across Canada.



How would YOU know? You're uneducated, uncultured and unread. Perhaps you can provide us with an illuminating comparison of the War Museum in Ottawa and why it's better than the ROM? Or are you making generalized claims from your Marble of Garble you hope you never have to substantiate?



And wrong too.



Total package Dummy Matt.



Dummy Matt, no commenting on universities for you. The last time you did it, you trashed Guelph University because you don't know the difference between a street in Burlington and an academic institution. You've never attended any, your education came via fax from a guy named Vinnie and you STILL didn't refute having 8 Nobel Prize winners counted among faculty and alumni. Nice try, have a seat.



That's your response? Your relatives are just as dumb and uncultured as you? The CN Tower should be discounted because your relatives are retarded and think with their stomachs? Jumping Jesus Christ there Dummy Matt. International icon DESPITE what Clan Dummy has to say.



So what? How does that discount the incredible contribution to both international art and Canada's profile in that art world you goddamn slob? The museum of their art, including the cabin, are all in Vaughan.



Nobody said anything different. You've been on this site claiming Toronto had nothing. I'm just here to remind you that you're wrong. Should I just send you a cheque so you can tattoo it on your forehead?



Let's all look at how the Dummy mind of Dummy Matt operates. He slams Kenny vs. Spenny as being second-rate cable, but yet claims he's never watched it. So, what we have here is clear and convincing evidence that facts do NOT enter into posts written by Dummy Matt. Everyone, keep that in mind when he's commenting on various things. He doesn't even need to experience it to comment on it. More brilliance.



Once again there Dummy Matt, this is about you claiming Toronto has nothing. Once again, you're wrong.



An argument of cultural events that occur in Toronto isn't couched on what you like and don't like. Simply put, YOU don't matter. The Toronto Indy is widely attended and attracts thousands of visitors.



I like you.



Dude, I don't care what interferes with your rampant alcoholism. I'm not your psychiatrist, nor am I your sponsor.



Irrelevant. It's a stop on the professional tennis circuit that I can't find elsewhere.



And here we have agreement. Thanks Dummy Matt.



None of which are named for and attended by the Queen.

And that folks, is Dummy Matt's refutation of Toronto's worth. Much sound and fury signifying nothing. Typical.

Gotta luv me!

   

I noticed that KAETZ had it beside her avatar... and I wanted one too.

   

One city councillor eh? I've heard comparisons like that drawn hundreds of times. We also have the line from the song asimperson quoted on page 2 of the thread...



If somebody wrote a song about it, then I guess the impression's out there, and not just in my mind.

We've got radio stations describing geographic areas of the city as "Mid-Town", "Uptown" etc. when reading out stories. Those names are straight out of Manhattan.

There's the City of Toronto webpage which proudly lists movie productions filmed in Toronto representing NYC.

http://www.toronto.ca/tfto/newy.htm

Everyone knows Torontonians like to pretend they're the Big Apple.






Well if they had been written in crayon, maybe you could keep up. We've already established that.




So you admit you were wrong when you suggested Toronto had every professional sport represented. That must hurt eh?





Highly relevant. You've failed to address the point. Wrong again Dayseed.




Lion King ended it's Toronto run early too. Another example of a bush league town that can't support Capital productions.




Yes, I'm making it all up. There's never any gun violence at Caribanna.



Dodging my point doesn't refute it Dayseed.




I know because I've been to both. I've been to the Museum of Civilization in the Mega-Metropolis of Hull too. Even that one beats the ROM. You know your overblown when a little town like Hull boasts better museums than your big city one.



No, you're wrong. Montreal women are far more fashionable than their frumpy Toronto counterparts.



So you admit that Bloor Street is no better than Robson Street. Excellent. And once again, Robson Street is located in a city with beautiful scenery and a mild climate. Another stroke against Toronto.

Being dragged all over the floor must sting eh Dayseed?






You're vituperative digression belies the fact you don't have an answer for that one.



Are you serious? You'd consider a visit to the CN Tower to be a "cultural" trip? That is hilarious!

What else to you do for "culture" Dayseed, read the Toronto Sun?

Or maybe you nourish your intellectual sole by going down to Medieval Times for a rubber chicken dinner and a sword fighting show!



In Vaughan? Not Toronto you say?

Regardless, let me know when "Wild On" is going to do a show from the Kleinburg Group of Seven gallery.




I said Toronto's mundane and pretentious. I didn't say it had "nothing."



I don't watch mindless crap.




Grown up events let you have a beer while you're watching the show. That's half the fun. Except in Toronto the good where our archaic, 1920's liquor laws outlaw a good time.




Who cares? It's still second rate on the circuit.



How about Sydney Australia's "Royal Easter Show."

   

So, you've got your personal opinion, based on your Marble of Garble, one councilor, a song, and your assinine conclusion that uptown and midtown are reserved exclusively for New York. You're a complete idiot. Boatloads of towns refer to uptowns and midtowns. I guess that ONLY New York is dallowed to have a downtown too? Oh, that one didn't seem to make your list...I wonder why?

Film production companies using Toronto to represent New York City doesn't exactly translate to the average mentality of a citizen believing he's in New York.



No Dummy Matt, we already established that nobody can read your crayon missives scrawled messily on your screen. Goddamn man.



Are you cracked in the head? How are the Toronto Argonauts NOT representative of professional league football? Jumping fucking Jesus H Christ in a rowboat to the moon Dummy Matt, get your head out of your ass!



No, saying it's relevant doesn't make it so. More than other cities in Canada, international concerts come to Toronto.



And yet another major production fills the gap with We Will Rock You. Nice try Dummy Matt, but Toronto has a vibrant and successful theatre scene. What other city in Canada can even pretend to boast such a scene?



And yet again you dodge the salient point. Caribana is recognized internationally as something unique to Toronto that attracts thousands of visitors. You have nothing, again, so you just rub out something from the Marble of Garble, I laugh at you and then we move on.



You didn't have one. You claimed you went to the PNE in Vancouver. Your personal opinion about what you enjoy and/or your review of it doesn't qualify it as a valid point for your side. I can just as easily claim I went to the PNE and found it to be total shit. Ipso ergo, you've got to come up with something that doesn't rattle loose from the Dummy Matt Marble of Garble.

Next.



Dummy Matt, if the best you can offer is a subjective review completely lacking in substantiation, you're done. I've clearly established over years on this forum that you're stupid, uneducated and you lack any sort of critical thinking skills. Your prattle that one is better than the other is moot. If you want to claim one is better than the other, offer something objective. Until then, have another beer.



Thanks for the "I know you are but what am I?" rebuttal of the post. Once more, your opinion is worthless, I don't respect it and if that's all you've got to rely on, you're done.



Actually, I've never been to Robson Street, so, unlike you, I won't make an ignorant comparison. However, perhaps you can enlighten me with a list of stores on both that make the two comparable. I know that would mean you'd have to elevate your posts to something above what the Marble of Garble can tell you and I know you dodge like a stuck pig when pressed, but maybe this time you'll rise above your own crapulence.



From when I watch it being done to you, I imagine it must. Thanks for confirming what I imagined is your daily life.



What point Dummy Matt? The President quit? How does that counter ANY point I've made regarding the internationally recognized academic clout of the university? Merely quoting my post and putting something underneath doesn't qualify as a point. Besides, we both know it slaps you in the face every time I point out that you slammed a university you could never attend because you don't know the difference between a street and a school. God bless your benighted soul Dummy Matt.



Yes, the CN Tower is a part of Canadian culture as it represents a Canadian icon. Its something unique to Canada. I know you and your uncultured slobbish relatives don't get that. They were too busy eating and you were too busy drinking. By the by, quit trying to augment your posts with words you don't understand. Soul, intellectual soul. I can't help you through everything Dummy Matt, but Lord above knows I try.



Irrelevant. The McMichael Art Gallery stands.



And your so called "mundane" and "pretentious" city chewed you up and shit you out alive. Now you're a bitter old drunk. Who never went to school, he had school faxed to him. Just needed to add that.



Sigh. Dummy, dummy, dummy Matt. The point is that all of your points are now suspect. You fake knowledge you don't have. By slamming Kenny Vs. Spenny (twice now) without ever having watched it, you demonstrate yourself to be untrustworthy and a contrarian. But I know that. And now so too does everybody else.

Ouch!



Fantastic. Toronto is now graded on your uncontrollable alcoholism. Because Dummy Matt can't stew what precious little of his brain is left means Toronto pales as a city. Brilliant deduction.



Sigh. Once again Dummy Matt, I can still see professional tennis played by the world's best in Toronto. That's the point. That you believe it to be second rate is irrelevant.



Fantastic! Now, let's look at what points Dummy Matt here decided to skip...

1. Nobody said anything different. You've been on this site claiming Toronto had nothing. I'm just here to remind you that you're wrong. Should I just send you a cheque so you can tattoo it on your forehead?

Uh-oh, why not this one too there Dummy Matt?

2. An argument of cultural events that occur in Toronto isn't couched on what you like and don't like. Simply put, YOU don't matter. The Toronto Indy is widely attended and attracts thousands of visitors.

And when his opinion is shown to be the muddy rumpings of the Marble of Garble, Dummy Matt wastes no time in tossing said embarassment aside. Way to go Honest Matt!

3. And here we have agreement. Thanks Dummy Matt.

And when Dayseed is right, Dummy Matt would rather be a disingenuous coward than give the props to Dayseed that Dayseed so rightfully deserves.

Fuck, I just love being me.

   

Sorry Dayseed, I'd love to engage you further, but it's a bit hard for me to take seriously some Prole who considers a sightseeing trip to a communications tower to be a "cultural event."

It's just too hard for me to keep a straight face.

Just out of interest, what did you wear to dinner in the CN Tower restaurant Dayseed, a wife-beater or a lumber jacket?

   

And what we have here folks is Dummy Matt cowering away from yet another one of his messy forays into the world what requires thinking.

You may have noticed the following:

1. Any comparison which required Dummy Matt to substantiate such a comparison with facts rather than shit gleaned from the Marble of Garble was quietly abandoned without doing so. He simply made claims that museums in Hull were superior to the ROM, but he couldn't say why. It's rather typical of Matt to fail at intellectual pursuits, but it in no way hampers my amusement.

2. Dummy Matt doesn't understand the difference between a response and a rebuttal. A rebuttal is when the point is factually refuted, i.e. reasons WHY Robson Street in Vancouver has equal shopping using whatever metrics or criteria as compared to Bloor Street in Toronto. A response is mindlessly saying, "Ha ha! Robson Street in Vancouver!"

3. Dummy Matt further hates academic pursuits and quite frankly, doesn't understand them. Equating the value of the faculty of a university and the academic reputation, output and research it has by the considerations of the President leaving only further demonstrates that those people who receive their education via a fax machine from a guy working at a loading dock shouldn't comment once on the state of higher education.

4. Dummy Matt has the Sylvester Stallone disease. Ever heard Sylvester Stallone talk? Of course you have. Ieieieieooooohoohohooiiieieieieee is how he says he would like people not to point out he's short or that Driven blew fat whale chunks (P.S. filmed in Toronto). When Sly does manage to barf out a coherent word, he augments his vocabulary simply so you won't think he's stupid based on his speech impediment. Dummy Matt has the same aims as Sly, but Dummy Matt sucks at it and uses the wrong words. He doesn't come across as smart, he comes across as a failed intellectual who managed to spare his thesaurus from becoming emergency toilet paper after a black-out night of whiskey drinking led to the power squat-shits he so readily used to bomb straight into his Fruit of the Looms. See his use of "prole". He just doesn't get it.

We salute you and your efforts at entering the realm of "thinking" Dummy Matt, but until you get it right, those "ideas" you have will always resemble the kind of encrusted barf you wipe off your microwave two days later after you've drunkenly mistaken it for the toilet. Or your culturally slobbish relatives. Who knows.

By the way, your Momma Michelina lasagna package that's currently clogging the toilet is going to be hard to remove if it gets too water-logged.

Here to help! Gotta luv me!

   

Hey Dayseed, what intellectual pursuits have you set aside for your cultural sustenance this summer?

Are you going to be reading the Toronto Sun or FHM?

   

Toronto VS New York VS London

Population

New York - 8,143,198
London - 8, 500, 000
Toronto - 2, 500, 000
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Founded

New York - By the Dutch in 1614 (New Amsterdam)

London - By the Romans in 43 AD

Toronto - By the British in 1793

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Famous for....

New York - Empire State Building, skyscrapers, yellow cabs, hot dogs, Wall Street, Manhattan, Time square

London - Big Ben, Houses of parliament, red double deckers,, the Thames, London Eye, St Paul's cathedral, Westminster Abbey, Buckingham Palace, the Queen, Pall Mall, London cabs, Sloane Sq, Harrods, Oxford Street, Regent Street, Mayfair, the West End, its ancient history

Toronto - CN Tower, High Park, Financial District skyscrapers, Nathan Phillips Square, Roy Thomson Hall

   

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