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Seeking Asylum, what countries accept Canadians?...

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Brenda @ Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:35 pm

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
llama66 llama66:
Jesus Brenda, why don't you just post the CONFIDENTIAL memo. For a Swedish Lesbian I expected more. I'm very disappointed.


oh wait a second.....brenda is the swedish dyke...ok....then unsound is the danish tranny.....got it straight now

The memo did say that when they announced our wedding...

Oh CRAP!!! Doing it again...

   



Zipperfish @ Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:58 pm

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:
With your blind support for those who persecutes other citizen I wouldn't be surprised if there are more.

You should read the book "Stasiland", you sound eerily similar to some of the attitudes of former Stasi agents after the wall collapsed.


Read it. Great book, by the way. Recommended reading for all. Not an indictment of the East German police state so much as a bloodless, occassionally humorous, accounting of their activities and he repercussion son citizens. There were the rosw upon rows of bottles continaing undergarments of citizens in case they ever needed a scent for teh dogs,

You, my firend, are over-reacting and are not being rational. You say you've been threatened with violence three times? Big deal--I've been worked over by the cops a couple of times--once including a trip to the hospital and a warning from the cop that if I said anything about how I split my head open he'd personally come looking for me. Lesson: Don't mess with cops. Ever. You are guaranteed to lose. Every. Time. When I interact with a cop in the line of duty now, I smile and wave. "Yessir, No sir, yer goddamn right sir."


Personally I agree with you. Too many cops. You can't swing a fish in this town without hitting a cop. They are so many many of them that they send dozens out for even the most minor of incidents. Look at the dude in Toronto waving a knife. About 50 cops,. Nine shots and then they tzae him after he's been plugged full of bullets.

But if you think it's bad here, try the US. Wayyyy more cops. A couple of weeks ago, it took 13 cops in Wisconsin to take down a baby deer named Giggles. I'm not making this up. Not to mention they are pretty much snooping in on every phone call, emial and internet transaction you make.

   



llama66 @ Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:17 pm

i liked the Gulag Archipelago myself.

   



shockedcanadian @ Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:24 pm

Zipperfish Zipperfish:
shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:
With your blind support for those who persecutes other citizen I wouldn't be surprised if there are more.

You should read the book "Stasiland", you sound eerily similar to some of the attitudes of former Stasi agents after the wall collapsed.


Read it. Great book, by the way. Recommended reading for all. Not an indictment of the East German police state so much as a bloodless, occassionally humorous, accounting of their activities and he repercussion son citizens. There were the rosw upon rows of bottles continaing undergarments of citizens in case they ever needed a scent for teh dogs,

You, my firend, are over-reacting and are not being rational. You say you've been threatened with violence three times? Big deal--I've been worked over by the cops a couple of times--once including a trip to the hospital and a warning from the cop that if I said anything about how I split my head open he'd personally come looking for me. Lesson: Don't mess with cops. Ever. You are guaranteed to lose. Every. Time. When I interact with a cop in the line of duty now, I smile and wave. "Yessir, No sir, yer goddamn right sir."


Personally I agree with you. Too many cops. You can't swing a fish in this town without hitting a cop. They are so many many of them that they send dozens out for even the most minor of incidents. Look at the dude in Toronto waving a knife. About 50 cops,. Nine shots and then they tzae him after he's been plugged full of bullets.

But if you think it's bad here, try the US. Wayyyy more cops. A couple of weeks ago, it took 13 cops in Wisconsin to take down a baby deer named Giggles. I'm not making this up. Not to mention they are pretty much snooping in on every phone call, emial and internet transaction you make.


It's not the regular cop that is in uniform and identifiable that I have a problem with. Even the cop that beat me wasn't a cop but a detective, but he had 2 cops hold me against the wall.

Far more dangerous from a democracy standpoint are those who are undercover. They are the "engines" of the police budget and they have no accountability. CSIS is worse with even more power and less time in the media.

Also, I took this beating and put it behind me. It wasn't until I graduated university and was in the corporate world that I experienced the employment interference and treatment generally reserved for a war criminal.

   



llama66 @ Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:36 pm

did your employer try to arrest you and turn you over to the war crimes tribunal in The Hauge? If not then your treatment by employers was not of that reserved for war criminal

I offer an alternative, its because you espouse possible radical or crazy views in the workplace thus forcing your employer to terminate you. I'm guessing that you've been fired so many times you are now un-hirable. I'm going to go out further on a ledge and say one of your crazed outbursts were either written down or filmed, and that evidence was sent to the RCMP or CSIS, who despite not charging you, felt you were enough of a trouble maker to share your particulars with our American counterparts, who in turn, deemed you too bat-shit crazy to enter the USA.

Thats my theory, anyways.

   



Zipperfish @ Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:44 pm

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:
It's not the regular cop that is in uniform and identifiable that I have a problem with. Even the cop that beat me wasn't a cop but a detective, but he had 2 cops hold me against the wall.

Far more dangerous from a democracy standpoint are those who are undercover. They are the "engines" of the police budget and they have no accountability. CSIS is worse with even more power and less time in the media.

Also, I took this beating and put it behind me. It wasn't until I graduated university and was in the corporate world that I experienced the employment interference and treatment generally reserved for a war criminal.


I still think you're being way too drama. War criminal? War criminals are actually treated quite well. Most of them die in comfortable jails.


but I know what you mean. Check out these clowns:


UVA student jailed for possession of bottled water, ice cream

These aren't cops. Theya ren't in uniform. Theya re from some outfit in Virginia callled the Alcohol Beverage Control agency. Seven of them accost a three young women carrying bottled water, including drawing a gun in a darkened parking area (recall, with no uniform). The young women acted as most young women would when assaulted in a parking lot--they tried to get away. Bad move. They were further assaulted, thrown in the slammer and now face 15 years in jail.

So where were you going to look for asylum again?

You've gotta suck it up and move on buddy.

   



shockedcanadian @ Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:55 pm

llama66 llama66:
did your employer try to arrest you and turn you over to the war crimes tribunal in The Hauge? If not then your treatment by employers was not of that reserved for war criminal

I offer an alternative, its because you espouse possible radical or crazy views in the workplace thus forcing your employer to terminate you. I'm guessing that you've been fired so many times you are now un-hirable. I'm going to go out further on a ledge and say one of your crazed outbursts were either written down or filmed, and that evidence was sent to the RCMP or CSIS, who despite not charging you, felt you were enough of a trouble maker to share your particulars with our American counterparts, who in turn, deemed you too bat-shit crazy to enter the USA.

Thats my theory, anyways.



Lol that's your theory eh? Leafs fan from Calgary and he has the gaul to call me crazy?

So, I graduated near top of my class, entered my MBA program, volunteered with some of the most vulnerable in society and was interviewed for an intelligence position when I applied to the military (the irony!) but I am somehow crazy. What a convenient way to paint anyone, the most common of practices for those who wish to discredit someone. You come from the Vic Toews camp of logic I see.

Your "theory" holds no water. Furthermore you don't have the facts straight, yet you speak as if you do, as if you give a shyte about what I have experienced and who I spread the facts to. The Americans let me into their free country and made me aware that they didn't have a problem with me but told me that "you might want to speak to your government". I think you overestimate the credibility of the Canadian security agencies with other nations agencies. Rest assured Canada's reputation with it's closest allies is worse not better due to unreliable and disingenuous intelligence agencies in this country.

   



shockedcanadian @ Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:58 pm

Zipperfish Zipperfish:
shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:


You've gotta suck it up and move on buddy.


I agree with this statement 100%, and I tried to for over 8 years. They ruined my career at a bank. This is the point you have to take away from this, moving on is exactly what I tried to do. It is obvious that this isn't an option outside of me finding another country, again, which is being forced upon me, it is not what I wanted.

   



martin14 @ Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:08 pm

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:
The Americans let me into their free country and made me aware that they didn't have a problem with me but told me that "you might want to speak to your government".



I have met enough Americans over the years, and seen enough crap on the news.

One thing is for sure; America is not a free country anymore.

For a time I felt freer in Slovakia than anywhere else in the world.
That has changed too.

Serbia, Georgia, Armenia for you I think.

   



llama66 @ Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:09 pm

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:
llama66 llama66:
did your employer try to arrest you and turn you over to the war crimes tribunal in The Hauge? If not then your treatment by employers was not of that reserved for war criminal

I offer an alternative, its because you espouse possible radical or crazy views in the workplace thus forcing your employer to terminate you. I'm guessing that you've been fired so many times you are now un-hirable. I'm going to go out further on a ledge and say one of your crazed outbursts were either written down or filmed, and that evidence was sent to the RCMP or CSIS, who despite not charging you, felt you were enough of a trouble maker to share your particulars with our American counterparts, who in turn, deemed you too bat-shit crazy to enter the USA.

Thats my theory, anyways.



Lol that's your theory eh? Leafs fan from Calgary and he has the gaul to call me crazy?

So, I graduated near top of my class, entered my MBA program, volunteered with some of the most vulnerable in society and was interviewed for an intelligence position when I applied to the military (the irony!) but I am somehow crazy. What a convenient way to paint anyone, the most common of practices for those who wish to discredit someone. You come from the Vic Toews camp of logic I see.

Your "theory" holds no water. Furthermore you don't have the facts straight, yet you speak as if you do, as if you give a shyte about what I have experienced and who I spread the facts to. The Americans let me into their free country and made me aware that they didn't have a problem with me but told me that "you might want to speak to your government". I think you overestimate the credibility of the Canadian security agencies with other nations agencies. Rest assured Canada's reputation with it's closest allies is worse not better due to unreliable and disingenuous intelligence agencies in this country.


Awww. Look the little dissident all worked up. My offer to help you pack and drive you to the airport still stands.

   



llama66 @ Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:14 pm

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:


You've gotta suck it up and move on buddy.


I agree with this statement 100%, and I tried to for over 8 years. They ruined my career at a bank. This is the point you have to take away from this, moving on is exactly what I tried to do. It is obvious that this isn't an option outside of me finding another country, again, which is being forced upon me, it is not what I wanted.


They? The vast global conspiracy against you?

I think I'll don my tin foil hat before proceeding further.
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GTG!

   



shockedcanadian @ Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:18 pm

llama66 llama66:

Awww. Look the little dissident all worked up. My offer to help you pack and drive you to the airport still stands.


I assure you nothing you say here can work me up, but I'm not going to be stepped on by someone who hasn't walked a metre in my shoes much less a mile. I am not the dissident, I never worked for the government, nor betrayed them...they are the one's betraying their oath to Canadians and their obligations to Canada's allies and the global community. Interesting that you never defended my comparison of you with Vic Toews. It's good to know where you stand.

I'll take you up on that offer. You help spread the news of my plight and I will find a free country to pursue.

The tinfoil hat comment with the picture is a nice deflection, effective against arguments someone might make in high school. Why don't you get on your bike and leave the discussion here for the adults.

   



bambu @ Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:28 pm

DrCaleb DrCaleb:
shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:
I mean asylum as a Canadian citizen into another country due to a violation or risk someone might face in Canada. For instance, some of our allies probably wouldn't accept a Canadian citizen, as they have labelled us a "safe" country, I am sure other nations would though if there is a legitimate reason and well constructed argument.


So, let me get this straight, you want to seek refuge in another country from percecution in Canada?

No, Canada is one of the few nations foolish enough to accept political refugees from such hell holes as Austrailia or the UK. I don't think any of our allies have sunk to that level yet.

You might try Zimbabwe, or Burkina Faso! They might need a little humour in their lives.


Australia...not quite a hell hole yet. :)

It will be though if the Left-far Left Labor govt gets re-elected on Sept 7.

   



llama66 @ Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:33 pm

Hey bud, Adults don't usually imply that there is a conspiracy against them, and even fewer adults would post they want to seek asylum like they are making a post on plenty of fish.

You have no evidence of this alleged conspiracy against you, nor have you given specifics of the alleged corporate conspiracy against you.

Why did the cops beat the hell out of you? what did you do to have them respond and have any interaction at all with you?

   



Vamp018 @ Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:38 pm

Just Illegally enter the US and claim equal rights with Mexican illegals. On the other hand who cares if a canuk is here legal or illegal, cant tell the difference accept when it comes to the British and common wealth. Where still revolutionary colonials at Heart, unlike bend over Canada to the throne :mrgreen:

   



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