Tolerance?
Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Sat Dec 04, 2004 2:55 pm
DMP08 DMP08:
I think it would be nice to have a real debate. In the begginning I was quite one sided on everything. Lately, I have been trying to look at both sides of the 'debate'. HUMAN, if you tone it down a little, people will listen. What always happens is that when human states one of his ideas, it leads into name calling because he is on a very radical end of the spectrum. Sorry to point you out human but your post did catch my attention.
And as for my opinion. If you support Canada, GREAT! Always be proud of your home. If you support the USA, GREAT! They are our neighbours and largest trading partner. If you dislike Canada or the USA, hey, thats your opinion.
And as for my opinion. If you support Canada, GREAT! Always be proud of your home. If you support the USA, GREAT! They are our neighbours and largest trading partner. If you dislike Canada or the USA, hey, thats your opinion.
I think I've been the same way before. I used to be pretty one-sided, but with politics it seems like there's always like 5 sides to a story, and on the left and right they both pick out things which make their case best. I didn't agree with the war, and I could be considered pretty liberal on social issues, BUT I'm not going to go around screaming at people that Bush is the anti-christ, and bitch that he didn't kiss the ex-prime minister of Canada's ass. Main thing I wish Bush would do is be more diplomatic, but I think we will have to wait 4 years until there's any way that the world will join with the US. The Bush administration just has to much dirt on their hands. I don't know if the war was about oil, and as many articles as you read on it being about oil, you can also find just as many that say it wasn't and detail why Saddam might have had wmd, and etc.
Scape @ Sat Dec 04, 2004 6:08 pm
2Cdo 2Cdo:
I've only been on this site for a week now, and I am starting to notice a trend. This trend is being happily pursued by both the right-wing thinkers and the left-wing. It actually seems to be the only area that both sides tend to agree with. This trend is the absolute quickness that a thread degenerates into a slam-fest.
Rational debate falls by the wayside, name calling, derogatory emoticons, and the ever popular "I'll quote you now and totally dissect and twist everything you said". People on both sides of the political spectrum need to develop a thicker skin and not take personal any opinion that is counter to theirs.
I came to this site by accident and thought, heres a place where I can engage in well thought out debates on a wide variety of topics. It seems I was wrong.
The tensions on this site are thick enough to cut with a knife, and it seems to all boil down to the present climate between Canada and the US. People who support the US are automatically labelled anti-Canadian, while people who don't support the US are labelled liberal commies.
I expect to get it from both sides on this just by viewing past threads. Canadians like to boast about how compassionate and tolerant they are, but in reality on this site that is not the norm.
If you feel bothered by anything that is written in this post, take a good look in the mirror. Just as there is ugly Americans(and I have met my share over the years) there is also the ugly Canadian(we just choose to pretend he doesn't exist).
Just my 2 cents worth, love to see where this ends up! Have a nice day.
Rational debate falls by the wayside, name calling, derogatory emoticons, and the ever popular "I'll quote you now and totally dissect and twist everything you said". People on both sides of the political spectrum need to develop a thicker skin and not take personal any opinion that is counter to theirs.
I came to this site by accident and thought, heres a place where I can engage in well thought out debates on a wide variety of topics. It seems I was wrong.
The tensions on this site are thick enough to cut with a knife, and it seems to all boil down to the present climate between Canada and the US. People who support the US are automatically labelled anti-Canadian, while people who don't support the US are labelled liberal commies.
I expect to get it from both sides on this just by viewing past threads. Canadians like to boast about how compassionate and tolerant they are, but in reality on this site that is not the norm.
If you feel bothered by anything that is written in this post, take a good look in the mirror. Just as there is ugly Americans(and I have met my share over the years) there is also the ugly Canadian(we just choose to pretend he doesn't exist).
Just my 2 cents worth, love to see where this ends up! Have a nice day.
I intend to. Perceptions have a powerful impact on reality. If you think in general terms then you tend to gloss over the finer points of debate. On this board there are some very extreme points of view up to and including fanaticism. To expect rational debate to be fostered in such an environment is a little naive. There are moderate voices on this board but for the most part steer well clear of the charged debates for the simple reason they know it will be drowned out by the rhetoric. Like the saying goes, never argue with an idiot, people will not know the difference. It is good to see that your open to different ideas, it displays a refreshing level of intellect, keep it up and you may yet find the rational debate you seek. Till then have a beer and enjoy the daily drama and fireworks that are the Canada kick ass forums!
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