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jaydog316 @ Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:14 am

We all know that Todd Bertuzzi made a big mistake when he sucker punched Moore last week, and for that he is remorseful. But the NHL is using Mr. Bertuzzi as a scapegoat, and falling to media sensationalism in its unjust suspension of Todd. Because of this I have started an online petition to stand up for Todd. Please any fan of hockey should sign this....you never know it might be your star player thats used as the martyr one day.

http://www.petitiononline.com/todd44/petition.html

   



KaNaDiAn @ Fri Mar 12, 2004 10:44 am

Okay.. I'm wondering how you figure he is being used as a martyr.. yes.. he did mess up.. BIGTIME, but there is no excuse for his actions, and he should be punished accordingly.. Ive heard a few discussions on what people figure is fair treatment/punishment, and the best Ive heard so far is , He should be out at least the rest of this season and the playoffs. If the guy who was injured recovers and comes back next year, well thats great. BUT .. If the guy doesnt recover and cannot play hockey again(the least of his worries), then Bertuzzi should be out indefinately also.. sorry Todd.. but you screwed up big.. and you have to pay.. this childlike behavior cannot continue.

   



figfarmer @ Fri Mar 12, 2004 11:07 am

Sure, just like I support Bernardo and Pickton and all the other criminals, support them in jail that is. Personally, I would like to place two cops at each hockey game, one favouring each side, and have them arrest any player who assaulted another player. This game has been out of control since the seventies.

   



jaydog316 @ Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:26 pm

I did not intend to debate this issue with anyone, I put it here so other hockey fans can decide if they want to sign or not. But to compare Mr.Bertuzzi to Robert Pickton,or Paul Bernardo is just insane?? That has to be one of the most idiotic things I have heard ever. I am sure the families of the victims of these 2 men would be insulted to know you could compare these 2 situations. You might want to think about what you are putting out there before you do so.

   



AdamNF @ Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:35 pm

$1:
I did not intend to debate this issue with anyone, I put it here so other hockey fans can decide if they want to sign or not. But to compare Mr.Bertuzzi to Robert Pickton,or Paul Bernardo is just insane?? That has to be one of the most idiotic things I have heard ever. I am sure the families of the victims of these 2 men would be insulted to know you could compare these 2 situations. You might want to think about what you are putting out there before you do so.


Bertuzzi totaly crosed the line and criminal charges should be brought agasint him. I would think hockey fans would want to seem him punished, he is given there sport a bad name. Hockey is by far the most violent sport. They dont let you fight in football, or basketball, if you did you would be kicked of the team sure. Fighting needs to be banned in hockey period. We are not a bunch of savages here. These grown men need to start acting grown men.

   



mike2277 @ Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:35 pm

jaydog316 jaydog316:
I did not intend to debate this issue with anyone, I put it here so other hockey fans can decide if they want to sign or not.


Anyone who'd sign it might be a fan of something......but it's not hockey!

   



jaydog316 @ Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:30 pm

It is all a matter of opinion!! I just stated mine, and I respect yours. I just dont like to read that he is being compared to 2 cold blooded killers, that have taken the lives of many many people intentionally. While I agree that what Todd did was WRONG, and I am sure if he had known the injuries that Mr. Moore was going to suffer, he never would have done so. Todd is a really wonderful man, he does alot in the vancouver community as does his wonderful wife Julie. I think in time people will see that he is truly sorry, and he will do many things to help aid in the promotion of hockey in a non violent way. For him to stand before the media and publically admit and appologize very sincerly, took alot of courage. I think the only people that he really needed to appologize to were...Mr. Moore, his family, his team, and the canucks, the fact that he also was apologizing to the young players of today and admitting his faults was something that goes along way in my opinion. The media has jumped on this issue and blown it way out of proportion. There was more coverage of this issue than there was of the bombings that happened again in Iraq, what does that tell you about the media!! Thank you for sharing your opinions on this issue, I do appreciate them, when they make sense!!

   



mike2277 @ Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:37 pm

you sure have a lot to say..............for someone who isn't interested in debating. :D

   



h0bb3s @ Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:59 pm

lets face it. comments were made by members of the canucks regarding steve moore, and now steve moore is in a hospital bed with a broken neck.
I read a quote somewhere from bertuzzi (dont know if its legit) that said "steve moore wont be in their lineup in march".

now I am one hell of a canucks fan and I think bertuzzi is the best player in the game today. It is quite obvious that whatever he was thinking when he did this, it was not "lets put this bugger in the hospital"

and honestly, I think the NHL handed out the right sentence. However listening to bettman and campbell saying "oh its not a problem in the game" is totally disgusting. I have watched players like tkachuk, domi, and others be just as deliberate in attacking someone, the injuries were just not as severe.

and yes, the media coverage of this on a whole is quite slanted. I can't count how many times I read "bertuzzi slammed his head into the ice" and other exaggerations.

I like what Bob Mackenzie at TSN and Kelly Hrudey at CBC have to say.

h0bb3s

PS you probably shouldnt start ranting about Iraq in the sports forum. people will not take you seriously :lol:

   



feeko @ Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:16 pm

first off...fighting is part of hockey...like a 3rd d man....

this wasnt a fight...it was a cheap shot...

keep the damm cops out of it


he should be banned till he's 45 .....that should do it..

He might not have intended to break the guys neck...but he had every intention of hurting him....

   



AdamNF @ Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:24 pm

Just becasue fighting a part of hockey doesnt mean its a good part. I played hockey for years and they never showed me how to fight. Cant be that big a part if they dont teach it. Just becasue you have been doing somthing for a long time doesnt mean you should keep doing it.

   



Indelible @ Fri Mar 12, 2004 6:12 pm

i don't think it should be part of hockey in the first place. what is the point of it? if you want to go see people fight, either go to the bar or go watch wrestling.

i agree that hockey ought to be a physical sport, and hitting (as in checks and stuff like that, NOT cheapshot punches to the face) has its place but fighting is useless. there should not even be an "enforcer" player on the team unless his goal is checking, not fistfights. it is getting to the point of being riddiculous.

who knows...maybe the NHL will stoop to the level of WWE. after all, they DO both have 3-letter initials.

   



drunken_prop @ Fri Mar 12, 2004 6:27 pm

First things first, Hockey is not the most Violent! Anyone try playing Rugby, I seen some pretty mess up stuff happen and it wasn't even intentional. I played Hockey for 8 years, and nothing compares to playing rugby which I am still active in.

Secondly, Bertuzzi deserves the penalty and the suspension he got. YES it was a cheap shot and was totaly un-called for! Bertuzzi got suspened for a good reasons. But as far as being charged I don't think he should be. Moore was not shoved down into the ice, he fell, he was out could. His neck was most likely broken after four guys jumped on him. They do have a case against Bertuzzi but I don't think it will fly.

Fighting has always been a part of hcokey, not a big part but it has always been there. My dad remembers watching hockey and seeing bench clearing brawls. Anyone remember Toronto and Montreal games, those guy were always at each others throats. Fighting has always been there and always will. It has not changed and has not gotten worse.

Fighting will always be there, its been a part of hcokey for god knows when. Yes Bertuzzi crossed the line, his suspension was justified. Criminal charges maybe but thats up to the investigators. But the bottom line is you can't take the game out of the fight and you can't take the fight out of the game.

   



Zyzzyxx @ Fri Mar 12, 2004 6:59 pm

hum.......

if your freind was really pissed, and injured a guy. would turn on him and say"you need to be put into jail and never work again."

I admit bertuzzi did a stupid act and should be punished, but i don't think everyone should turn on him and say he's such an idiot and dosn't deserve to play in the NHL.





GO CANUCKS GO

   



AdamNF @ Fri Mar 12, 2004 7:29 pm

$1:
First things first, Hockey is not the most Violent! Anyone try playing Rugby, I seen some pretty mess up stuff happen and it wasn't even intentional. I played Hockey for 8 years, and nothing compares to playing rugby which I am still active in.

Secondly, Bertuzzi deserves the penalty and the suspension he got. YES it was a cheap shot and was totaly un-called for! Bertuzzi got suspened for a good reasons. But as far as being charged I don't think he should be. Moore was not shoved down into the ice, he fell, he was out could. His neck was most likely broken after four guys jumped on him. They do have a case against Bertuzzi but I don't think it will fly.

Fighting has always been a part of hcokey, not a big part but it has always been there. My dad remembers watching hockey and seeing bench clearing brawls. Anyone remember Toronto and Montreal games, those guy were always at each others throats. Fighting has always been there and always will. It has not changed and has not gotten worse.

Fighting will always be there, its been a part of hcokey for god knows when. Yes Bertuzzi crossed the line, his suspension was justified. Criminal charges maybe but thats up to the investigators. But the bottom line is you can't take the game out of the fight and you can't take the fight out of the game.


Fighting has no place is hockey. Its NOT part of the game. Thinink about it, there physicaly fighting echother, bare fists. Why should fighting in hockey be ok, but fitghing on the street be illigal. fighting is fighting weather it takes place at a hocvkey game or not. In no other sport would this even be tolerated. Just because its a phyisical sport doesnt mean fighting will happen. There are no fights in football, or basketball, or RUGBY. there are no fights in Olympic wrestling. why should hockey be amune to the law. Its immautre and silly, i cant respect a sport that says this is ok.

   



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