Canada - There are no defenders
DerbyX @ Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:04 pm
American American:
Mustang1 Mustang1:
American American:
Mustang1 Mustang1:
lily lily:
Has anyone tried to defend Canada? Because that opens up a whole new set of questions, such as "who are you to say that your version of the truth is the accurate one?".
Even from the few sentences you posted above it seems pretty clear that the only responses you'll find acceptable are the ones that agree with you.
For myself, I'll happily stick with the so-called falsities spewed at me from sources I know rather than trust the word of a stranger on the internet.
Even from the few sentences you posted above it seems pretty clear that the only responses you'll find acceptable are the ones that agree with you.
For myself, I'll happily stick with the so-called falsities spewed at me from sources I know rather than trust the word of a stranger on the internet.
I agree – I’m always leery of the self-styled purveyors of “truth.” Hey, this is the Internet...
Yeah me too, of those like youself.
Good one, Bonzo. Go back to your corner and try to barf up something even remotely intelligent. And, no, your day old Wonder Twins Alphaghettis don’t count.
How old are you, Mustang?
First you come at me with question about my age, location and sexuality and now you go for Mustang1.
Mustang1 @ Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:09 pm
American American:
Mustang1 Mustang1:
American American:
Mustang1 Mustang1:
lily lily:
Has anyone tried to defend Canada? Because that opens up a whole new set of questions, such as "who are you to say that your version of the truth is the accurate one?".
Even from the few sentences you posted above it seems pretty clear that the only responses you'll find acceptable are the ones that agree with you.
For myself, I'll happily stick with the so-called falsities spewed at me from sources I know rather than trust the word of a stranger on the internet.
Even from the few sentences you posted above it seems pretty clear that the only responses you'll find acceptable are the ones that agree with you.
For myself, I'll happily stick with the so-called falsities spewed at me from sources I know rather than trust the word of a stranger on the internet.
I agree – I’m always leery of the self-styled purveyors of “truth.” Hey, this is the Internet...
Yeah me too, of those like youself.
Good one, Bonzo. Go back to your corner and try to barf up something even remotely intelligent. And, no, your day old Wonder Twins Alphaghettis don’t count.
How old are you, Mustang?
And that’s not creepy.
Eww…
Mustang1 @ Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:13 pm
DerbyX DerbyX:
First you come at me with question about my age, location and sexuality and now you go for Mustang1.
It’s a little bit odd, that’s for sure. Wait a second, did you say he asked about your “sexuality”?!?!? Weird. Hmm…what would Freud say about that?
Jaime_Souviens @ Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:13 pm
Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:
@ jaime; how was plato wrong? regarding what?
Your garden variety intro course will portray Plato as a defender of what we would call a democracy in some vague theorhetical way.
But his aristocracy of the intelligent, (an idea that I suspect that najmah might endorse, not to mention many of the people who post here regularly), is still an aristocracy.
In a choice between government by the best & brightest, the scientific, the dispassionate, the neutral, the expert, on the one hand, and by the people, the boorish, greedy, superstitious, crass people, on the other,...
...always side with the people.
"I would rather be governed by the first 200 names in the Boston phone book than by the Harvard faculty."
--William F. Buckley.
.
DerbyX @ Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:15 pm
Mustang1 Mustang1:
DerbyX DerbyX:
First you come at me with question about my age, location and sexuality and now you go for Mustang1.
It’s a little bit odd, that’s for sure. Wait a second, did you say he asked about your “sexuality”?!?!? Weird. Hmm…what would Freud say about that?
It was during a thread discussing SSM & gay rights so the question wasn't totally off base but alot of what he says is shite anyway.
Mustang1 @ Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:16 pm
DerbyX DerbyX:
You don't think ......
Mustang1, are you into may-dec romances of a homosexual nature like American seems to be?
.Well…I can’t say that I am, but what consenting adults choose to do is ultimately their business. It’s not my personal thing, but who am I to judge?
Canadian_Mind @ Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:24 pm
Jaime_Souviens Jaime_Souviens:
Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:
@ jaime; how was plato wrong? regarding what?
Your garden variety intro course will portray Plato as a defender of what we would call a democracy in some vague theorhetical way.
But his aristocracy of the intelligent, (an idea that I suspect that najmah might endorse, not to mention many of the people who post here regularly), is still an aristocracy.
In a choice between government by the best & brightest, the scientific, the dispassionate, the neutral, the expert, on the one hand, and by the people, the boorish, greedy, superstitious, crass people, on the other,...
...always side with the people.
"I would rather be governed by the first 200 names in the Boston phone book than by the Harvard faculty."
--William F. Buckley.
.
I dunno why though. why would you rather be governed by the greedy that by the smart? I'm not contradicting your opinion about the citizens being better, i just want to know why they are better than the smart/ bright, so that i can form my own opinion in the future,
Motorcycleboy @ Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:27 pm
I can't believe you guys are entertaining this Najmah guy by arguing with one another over his posts.
I'm am more critical of Canadian policies, government and sacred cows than most of the posters on CKA. I've had many a battle with a few of the posters on this thread. And I don't think there's anyone out there who'd disagree with me on that.
But at least I have the common courtesy to post an opinion, debate it, then take my lumps and reply or move on. This Najmah clown is so arrogant that he expects to post a wordy, boring, manifesto, have everyone read it, then debate it's contents. Where do you get off Najmah?
Try again. Start a thread, based on something in your "articles", then debate. Don't expect us to read through your entire dumb thesis because it's not going to happen.
Jaime_Souviens @ Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:53 pm
Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:
Jaime_Souviens Jaime_Souviens:
"I would rather be governed by the first 200 names in the Boston phone book than by the Harvard faculty."
--William F. Buckley.
--William F. Buckley.
I dunno why though. why would you rather be governed by the greedy that by the smart? I'm not contradicting your opinion about the citizens being better, i just want to know why they are better than the smart/ bright, so that i can form my own opinion in the future,
Because you have at least a chance of rapport with ordinary people, and, (and this is the whole idea behind Madison's idea for the United States), even though they will screw up, they will at least be motivated by the same things that motivate you. Which means, that, by and large, they will have been headed in a direction that from your point of view, makes sense.
Someone who's spent his twenties at the University of Toronto and Osgoode Hall and makes a six figure income will not do that. And cannot do that.
But what's really behind this is that common sense is not distributed in proportion to income.
Jaime_Souviens @ Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:54 pm
Motorcycleboy Motorcycleboy:
I can't believe you guys are entertaining this Najmah guy by arguing with one another over his posts.
I'm am more critical of Canadian policies, government and sacred cows than most of the posters on CKA. I've had many a battle with a few of the posters on this thread. And I don't think there's anyone out there who'd disagree with me on that.
But at least I have the common courtesy to post an opinion, debate it, then take my lumps and reply or move on. This Najmah clown is so arrogant that he expects to post a wordy, boring, manifesto, have everyone read it, then debate it's contents. Where do you get off Najmah?
Try again. Start a thread, based on something in your "articles", then debate. Don't expect us to read through your entire dumb thesis because it's not going to happen.
I'm am more critical of Canadian policies, government and sacred cows than most of the posters on CKA. I've had many a battle with a few of the posters on this thread. And I don't think there's anyone out there who'd disagree with me on that.
But at least I have the common courtesy to post an opinion, debate it, then take my lumps and reply or move on. This Najmah clown is so arrogant that he expects to post a wordy, boring, manifesto, have everyone read it, then debate it's contents. Where do you get off Najmah?
Try again. Start a thread, based on something in your "articles", then debate. Don't expect us to read through your entire dumb thesis because it's not going to happen.
Completely valid point.
American @ Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:04 pm
Jaime_Souviens Jaime_Souviens:
Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:
Jaime_Souviens Jaime_Souviens:
"I would rather be governed by the first 200 names in the Boston phone book than by the Harvard faculty."
--William F. Buckley.
--William F. Buckley.
I dunno why though. why would you rather be governed by the greedy that by the smart? I'm not contradicting your opinion about the citizens being better, i just want to know why they are better than the smart/ bright, so that i can form my own opinion in the future,
Because you have at least a chance of rapport with ordinary people, and, (and this is the whole idea behind Madison's idea for the United States), even though they will screw up, they will at least be motivated by the same things that motivate you. Which means, that, by and large, they will have been headed in a direction that from your point of view, makes sense.
Someone who's spent his twenties at the University of Toronto and Osgoode Hall and makes a six figure income will not do that. And cannot do that.
But what's really behind this is that common sense is not distributed in proportion to income.
...nor intellect.
Jaime_Souviens @ Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:08 pm
American American:
Jaime_Souviens Jaime_Souviens:
Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:
Jaime_Souviens Jaime_Souviens:
"I would rather be governed by the first 200 names in the Boston phone book than by the Harvard faculty."
--William F. Buckley.
--William F. Buckley.
I dunno why though. why would you rather be governed by the greedy that by the smart? I'm not contradicting your opinion about the citizens being better, i just want to know why they are better than the smart/ bright, so that i can form my own opinion in the future,
Because you have at least a chance of rapport with ordinary people, and, (and this is the whole idea behind Madison's idea for the United States), even though they will screw up, they will at least be motivated by the same things that motivate you. Which means, that, by and large, they will have been headed in a direction that from your point of view, makes sense.
Someone who's spent his twenties at the University of Toronto and Osgoode Hall and makes a six figure income will not do that. And cannot do that.
But what's really behind this is that common sense is not distributed in proportion to income.
...nor intellect.
Exactly, my contentious friend, exactly.
UberMullet @ Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:29 pm
I normaly have no problem letting someone blather on whatever point that they have to make irregardless if I agree or not.
But in this case, perhaps Mr. ( and I use that term lightly ) Pawley, to just leave Canada. I know that everyone is entitled to their oponion, and to express it, but I'm getting really really tired with fellows like Mr Pawley.
I would quate Motorcycleboy, as well but its too much to write. But I agree with him as well, good point!!
Canadian_Mind @ Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:39 pm
Jaime_Souviens Jaime_Souviens:
American American:
Jaime_Souviens Jaime_Souviens:
Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:
Jaime_Souviens Jaime_Souviens:
"I would rather be governed by the first 200 names in the Boston phone book than by the Harvard faculty."
--William F. Buckley.
--William F. Buckley.
I dunno why though. why would you rather be governed by the greedy that by the smart? I'm not contradicting your opinion about the citizens being better, i just want to know why they are better than the smart/ bright, so that i can form my own opinion in the future,
Because you have at least a chance of rapport with ordinary people, and, (and this is the whole idea behind Madison's idea for the United States), even though they will screw up, they will at least be motivated by the same things that motivate you. Which means, that, by and large, they will have been headed in a direction that from your point of view, makes sense.
Someone who's spent his twenties at the University of Toronto and Osgoode Hall and makes a six figure income will not do that. And cannot do that.
But what's really behind this is that common sense is not distributed in proportion to income.
...nor intellect.
Exactly, my contentious friend, exactly.
true enough... so how did the uber-rich politicians end up in office?
Jaime_Souviens @ Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:50 pm
Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:
true enough... so how did the uber-rich politicians end up in office?
I don't think Canada or the United States has 'uber-rich politicians' in office.
Politicians are by trade lawyers, (whether or not they went to law school), in that they are advocates.
And a rich politician may advocate for the rich or the poor, just as a poor politician might be.