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Yeah, but given that daycare costs up to $1000/child/month, it makes economic sense.

Both parents work, earn a salary and pay taxes on it.

If the immigrants actually work in the field they were trained in (such as an engineer or medical professional and not as taxi driver or convenience store clerk), society probably comes out close to even.

When I was growing up, the Chinese family down the street did just that - and eventually the father was able to start his own auto repair shop and buy a couple of cheap properties to rent out (the mother worked in textiles plant making jeans). And his kids - fully assimilated and as Canadian as any of us.

   

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And it is. Family class members like spouse and children can immigrate in three to six months - for uncles, aunts, and grandparents, the wait is up to four years.

   

Wow are you confused. You're talking about business class. He's talking about all immigrants let in on the basis that they will find work here. Read the articles provided.

   

In my case, I was the skilled immigrant who qualified under the program.

Then I sponsored my wife and 2 kids.

That technically means only 25% of the PR visas in my family were given to the "skilled" class. (my wife is skilled too, but she was never assessed. Regardless of skills the final result is a big tragedy)

   

You're right, I'm confused because you're not using the correct terminology.

Had you said "Skilled Worker Class" like they do on the CIC website, then I would have known. When you put economic class, to me it sounds more like business class you speak of - which of course is not called that either. But then as an expert on immigration - you know all that right?

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/index.asp

Troll on...

   

It makes economic sense for the immigrants who are getting granny to look after their kids for free. The local daycare isn't doing well out of it and we are paying the health care costs for granny when she needs a hip replacement. Costs granny has never paid into.

Like I say, bring granny over but allowing old people from other countries to come over here and get free health care doesn't make fiscal sense.

Too often it's what the immigrants can get out of Canada. Bring granny over who has never paid a red cent in Canadian taxes, you pay her medical bills.

   

I used the terminology that Jason Kenney, minister for immigration used. That not good enough for you? Read his speech.

   

Sorry, but society does benefit even from Granny. It's just indirectly that's all.

Granny still needs to eat, wear clothes, shower, stay warm/cool (depending on the season), etc. All of that costs money - money which the immigrant family pays for - and which creates jobs and taxes that it wouldn't if Granny was living overseas.

That, coupled with the taxes that a double income family pays, likely covers some or all of granny's medical expenses. Additionally, Granny brings over whatever savings she had (which in some cases may be tens of thousands of dollars) to help supplement her families lifestyle. That money gets spent too and creates even more taxes.

Besides with the incredibly wait times (as long as four years just to get sponsorship approval - a visa takes more time on top of that) and high fees (as much as several thousand per person), many grandparents never get the chance to immigrate.

   

And I'm not against Granny emigrating, I just think the sponsor should be made to pay for any health care costs.

When I'm paying an extra chunk of tax in the form of a 'health-care premium' on top of federal and provincial income tax, it irks me that old immigrants are coming over here, having never contributed fininacially to Canada but are now gaining benefits that I'm paying for.

If they could do a bit of free baby sitting for me I may change my stance.

   

Oh, that guy. He doesn't know what he is talking about for sure. Probably had too many Molson Canadian before the speach.

   

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