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You can't build an entire economy on coffee shops, bike shops and the arts.

   

They're living in as bizarre a fantasy land about how "easy" it is to change the world as the hippies from the 1960's were.

   

Ok, thanks.

   

Didn't you already start an annoying thread like this before, just some rant about how you love mass market beer, chain restaurants, pollution etc?

What's the point of this thread anyway?

   

News flash: since the dawn of time, the world is always changing. Every second of every day of every year. Society and culture also. Don't be grumpy just cuz you're all old and out of touch.

   

One of each in this town would make more jobs than ramming a pipeline through it!

   

Stay off the computer forever because all it's plastic bits are made from the petroleum products you hate.

   

Tell that to Seattle. Or Los Angeles.

   

The part in apocalyptic fiction that hits true to reality is that if the resource infrastructure collapses the cities are doomed. The massive level of interconnection of industry and the rural areas is the only thing that allows cities to function. Sever that link and the cities cannot function on their own. Do too many politically correct things that harm industry or the resource sector and the cities end up suffering too. The urban hipsters seem to be blissfully ignorant of this reality.

   

It's a good rant, borrowed from another site. This thread seems to want more provocation




The Issues That Really Matter In The 2015 Election

Noticing once again that some people have a rabid hatred of the Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper and the Conservative party, I decided to look into the matter objectively and without bias to find out what was behind all the irrational fury. The results of my research were illuminating. While there were some legitimate reasons for disliking Stephen Harper and some of his policies, most of the rage against Stephen Harper was based on the impure motives and obvious moral failings of the haters. Listed below are some of the major reasons why some people hate Stephen Harper, which I discovered by simply asking people questions and reading the newspaper with an open mind.


First of all, some people are just plain IGNORANT. They do not really know anything about any of the candidates, or political parties, or issues. Sneaky and malicious opposition party politicians with their own shameful agendas had taken advantage of this ignorance to tell these unsuspecting dupes that Stephen Harper is somehow “bad” and that “everyone is mad at him.” These “useful idiots” were then urged to jump on the band-waggon, drink the kool-aide, and join the hate-on. Of course, Stephen Harper is simply the innocent victim of a political smear campaign. Nasty politicians like Justin Trudeau and Tom Mulcair have, not surprisingly, actually sunk to such a low level that they go around promoting hatred. Some people even go around mindlessly repeating the complaint that Stephen Harper is guilty of “contempt of parliament,” without even stopping to consider the fact that some of the behaviour of the opposition politicians in parliament really is contemptible!


Some people are POWER HUNGRY and are simply frustrated that Stephen Harper has outperformed them. These opposition politicians want to be in the Prime Minister’s Office so they can do whatever they want to do. They are extremely frustrated that Stephen Harper was fairly and duly elected to pursue his political party’s programs, and that he is not doing the pogroms that the opposition parties want him to do. After losing the last election, the opposition politicians spent their time carping, criticizing, complaining, scheming, and plotting like politicians are known to do, rather than working on improving themselves.


Some people just WANT CHANGE. These are mostly the power-hungry political losers mentioned just above. They are tired of being defeated at the polls and want to be in power for a change. That is the major “change” that they want. They have nothing good to offer, other than the usual false promises and false hopes, of course. They hope to trick enough people into voting for this particular “change” that they want for their own selfish reasons so they can finally get elected instead of always rejected. The big question is, Why would anyone else want to make this sort of change for the worse?


Some people are GLOBAL WARMING ACTIVISTS who want to shut down Canadian industry and have Canada pay billions of dollars in “climate change reparations” to rinky-dink countries around the world whenever the usual, regular floods wash away one of the mud hut villages that they built on a flood plane (since that is where the fertile soil is). They want to muzzle all sceptics and critics of this outrageous plan to defraud and destroy Canada, but continue to be frustrated by serious, international, science advisers breaking the silence and getting the truth to Prime Minister Stephen Harper.


Some people are DRUG ADDICTS and fear that Stephen Harper will not approve of their drug-fried minds. They want someone who will legalize drugs like marijuana and others. With all the never-ending expansion of their minds, and the creativity, that the drugs are supposed to bring, somehow all they can ever think about is that their illegal drugs are the most important issue in all the world to them and that they hate people like Stephen Harper who are not all drugged up. If you don’t like the idea of druggies being a bad influence on your children, remember that you can “Just vote nope to Trudope.”


Some people are CRIMINALS and fear that Stephen Harper will have them punished for their crimes. They want to continue to rob and assault other people and get away with it. They do not want to reform. They want someone who will cry a river for them, and hold their hands, and hug them, and tell them that evil behaviour is now good and that good behaviour is now evil. They think that the victims of their abuse need to try harder to “understand” them.


Some people are PREDATORS and fear that Stephen Harper will continue to oppose the legalization of prostitution. They want someone who will let them do such things “legally” so they can take advantage of the vulnerable in society while saying that it is not against the law and that therefore they have not done anything wrong. They really hope that by now enough people’s minds will have been influenced by Hollywood to think that anything goes.


Some people are BABY KILLERS and still fear that Stephen Harper might try to take away what they think is their right to do such things. So they call Stephen Harper a “bully” and a “thug” and a “dictator,” and throw their support behind the various other political party bullies, thugs, and dictators who demand that every Member of Parliament in their own political parties must unquestioningly support baby killing, as well as anything else they ever come up with, no matter how bad it is. The opposition politicians will typically do virtually anything to try to get elected, and it is no doubt a great relief to them that instead of having to kiss babies these days they can now just promise to let the “parents” kill the kids before they are even born.


Some people are PROUD PARTY ANIMALS. Justin Trudeau (the leader of the Liberal party) and Tom Mulcair (the leader of the NDP party) spend a lot of their time at Lesbian/Gay/Bisexual/Transgender (LGBT) pride parades hoping to drum up support for themselves by criticizing Stephen Harper (the leader of the Conservative workers) for being too busy diligently running the country to go to any orgies. It does not seem to occur to them that maybe Stephen Harper became the Prime Minister precisely because he studied hard and worked hard rather than choosing a life of dissipation like they have done.


Some people are IMMORAL COWARDS. They hate Stephen Harper and they hate themselves too. They hate Stephen Harper the boring economist and his relatively straight-laced ways, but are afraid that they have to vote for him lest one of the other political party animals might get into power and wreck the country economically. They love immorality, and really want to vote for the wicked, but their concern for their paychecks and house prices outweighs even their great love for degeneracy.



In conclusion, the people who hate Stephen Harper the most with such a satanic hatred are not very good characters themselves. Instead of always demanding a change from Stephen Harper every time there is an election, they need to look in the mirror and CHANGE THEMSELVES.

There needs to be real choice in the area of politics. What would be the point of having a Conservative party if it was just going to do all the same bad things that all the other political parties do?

   

Some people are DISAPPOINTED that everything he does is for his political base and not necessarily for all of Canada - things like C-51, income splitting, getting rid of the LGR, TFSAs, etc.

Personally, I might have considered voting for Conservative in this election had he kept his promise to help the military. Instead, just like everyone else, he promised them the moon and then reneged on it later (in his case, clawing it back so he could balance the budget right before an election). So in the end, we got was spending almost on par with what Paul Martin had promised way back in 2006.

If that's all I can expect for defence spending in this day and age, I might as well vote Liberal and get some decent social policies too.

   

Income splitting and TFSA's only benefited the Conservative base?

   

By and large, yes, his supporters get the most benefit from both of those programs.

I'm sure they help some people who don't vote Conservative, but the majority of people benefiting from income splitting live in areas that predominately vote Conservative, like here in Alberta. But young families living in large urban centres like Toronto or Vancouver - yeah very few of those families can be single income and afford decent housing in those markets.

I also don't think that most low-income people receive ANY benefit from TFSAs, mostly because they can barely put food on the table, nevermind sock away $10K a year in savings accounts - but the top 1%, oh they fricking love the TFSAs because it lets them hide even more income from the government. Even most middle class families (especially single parent ones) can't afford to sock away 15-25% of their income each year.

   

Absolute nonsense.

I know you have a strong Liberal bias but come on.

   

Chances are Boots thinks that Justin identifies with and represents the middle class too. Only Conservatives are 1%ers

   

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