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Oh c'mon Lily. Life is about choices. From the time you and I were in junior high, we were educated day in and day out about the ins and outs of sexual education (it was called "Health Studies" in my Grade 8 class in 1979).

There's not one kid out there today who gets pregnant as a result of ignorance, or lack of access to birth control. And there's not one kid in the western world who has a child because she can't access abortion.

Please don't try to place the single mothers of today's generation in the same desperate category that single mothers of the 1950's found themselves in.

   

hmmm everything good , except I noticed the avoidance of inflation and the will of our government to do something about it.....both those articles at the beginning of this thread are so bias I can hardly believe Avro would agree with the one .

Lily is right its about the overall picture not an individual and besides every individual born is worth at least a million bucks economicly over a life time so either go get pregnant or haul in the immigrants because you Can't make money without people .

   

Ah, interesting point.

I love the fact you've put a dollar value on individuals.

Have you considered the fact, that, by your reasoning, Canada needs more people.

But, by the same reasoning, all people are not created equal.

For instance, statistically, Chinese immigrants to Canada tend to do far better economically than their Jamaican counterparts.

Indo-Canadians in Vancouver tend to achieve higher financial success than their Haida counterparts who are born and raised in the Delta.

Children born to white, middle-class, Canadian parents in Canada, tend to do better economically than their non-white, immigrant counterparts.

I think you're right. The world needs more Canadians, and Canada needs more people.

The best, simplest, way I can think of to acheive this is through fewer abortions and less birth control.

What does everyone else think?

   

Lily they really don't give a hoot , they would rather let the moms suffer or skip the child rearing part until the children are good economics for them so they have people around to make them rich infact they'd rather skip the child part completely and bring in immigrants with whatever cash they can get from them...then they whine about taxes being taken to help the moms raise the future profits . Its sad really .

   

I'm not placing all the blame on the girls. I'm saying that decades ago, when we told young women that their bodies were theirs alone and that men were pigs who wanted to violate them, we were probably further ahead than we are now.

Now we tell them that their bodies are theirs for abortion purposes, but we've made it clear that they are expected to put out on their first night in the co-ed dorms at Mcgill or Simon Fraser. I don't think that's progress. I think that's debauchery.

   

Hey, I did my part. I gave you five kids to help out the population base in this country. So I leave the rest of it up to you Conservatives to bring in some good Canadian babies.

   

OK so you're an exception but lets just hope all you're kids are successful and one does not become ward of the state somewhere down the road with something like MS or a disabling car accident ... do you see where I'm going with this ?

   

That's the most idiotic thing I've heard in awhile.

One can quite easily assume that Banff's kid's will be quite successful.

First off, if they become involved in a car accident, their future earning, medical expenses, etc, will be covered by the insurance company.

If one of them develops MS, then yeah, they'll become something of a burden, but no more so than those who choose to have 2 or 3 kids out of wedlock. And there's plenty of them.

Regardless, an infintisimal number of people become burdens on the state due to MS. Many more become burdens due to lifestyle choices that involve having children out of wedlock.

So which should we strive to prevent?

   

I can assure you that all five are taken care of and will never need welfare. Two join the military and are working on degrees. Another will be joiing the military and doing said same. Other two are mechanical and civil engineers perspectively. I doubt they would ever ask for welfare. they have too much going for them....All through good hardwork and self respect. Something few kids today have.

   

Right I was waiting for a comment like this so you could tell all the medical professionals, underwriters , insurance companies , doctors , nurses , medical companies , etc etc etc the list is infact enormous ...so we could say that human beings are being a burden .... Now do you understand

Assuming success , is a complicated idea I will do my best to get the boys pointed in the right direction and I've already started but geez I have a 2 brothers one who almost died at birth and one very well educated both on the system for medical reasons . Yes I think women having children out of wedlock is a problem , and many do it just so they don't have to work but lets hope its for a value in the long run ....I'd have to go look at some stats to see how bad it really is and whether it goes against society or not ...several areas would have to be looked at to determine ...I'm sure its constructive but its worth the look to be sure ...

   

The nanny programs are basically insurance. They are insurance for oneself but also family and friends. As a result taxes are very high but no one has any suggestion as to what to cut. That's the way it is.

   

I hope your answer is MS

   

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