Are You For or Against Separatism in Canada?

How long do we have to wait Arctic in “standing up” for ourselves in Canada? Why should any government really listen when we don't have the votes? Why should they? You keep saying well solve it in Canada half these problems are going back decades. Some even going back to the 19th century. So you tell me when does leaving actually become an option or does it in your world and we should just sit here and stand by whatever the feds want to cram down our throats and tell us what to do?

Separation is standing up for ourselves more therefore I disagree with your view as some teenage comparison or now "emo kids"? That is just plain moronic. Leaving is taking the ultimate control of our lives and leaving the little safety net Canada is and why it was created. It is moving out of mum’s basement and going our own way instead of living in their house with their rules. We have clearly out grown Canada and many of the archaic policies in place. I don't think we need your protection from the little Americans anymore and not many fenians are raiding us. The west is 10 million strong not the few thousand little scattered farmers and lumberjacks that once was.

The west can easily be a country and you know it but you would rather just never see that happen. You talk of history as it is against the idea even though many countries have broken up and dissolved and have been quite successful. Why don’t you look at the history of that and our own history? You can be plagued by a more socialist outlook, Quebec’s using you for more funds again for their benefits, and the Maritimes and territories needing more of your money just to stay afloat if you want. Also if you want to stand by Canada and it’s corruption and the mismanagement and waste of your tax dollars then go ahead that is your business. I say we take our money and move out and build a better Canada. You say it won’t be better I know it will be because it couldn’t get any worse than the state of affairs Canada is in now. It will only be worse for you because Ontario can be stuck with the entire bill and you will see for yourself how much of your money is being thrown away. But alas you would rather go by that old ideologically and arrogance if it's a bad deal for Ontario it is a bad deal for Canada.

Clogeroo, you clearly have abosolutly no fucking idea how economics work. If, hypothetically, Quebec got a Government retarded enough to separate, the "country" would fail. A shiload of the land to the north (you know, the land that has a lot of natural resources?) belongs to the natives, and guess what, they would stay with Canada. All of the major corporations in Quebec -Bombardier and CN to name two- would pull out and move their headquarters to another province. All trade agreements, including NAFTA, and any with Europe and Asia, would be null and void, because they are with Canada, not Quebec. How the fuck do you expect the province to support itself, eh? Negotiate new agreements? I don't think so. To negotiate new agreements you have to offer something better than what the other countries currently have in place, and I guarentee you Quebec doesn't have the economy to make that happen. Quebec would also need its own currency, legal system, government system, etc.

Open your fucking eyes and get a clue.

Oh, and one other thing. I heard this second party and haven't confirmed it so it may not be true... but you know that little US military base south of the St. Lawrence? They have standing orders to take the first 100 miles north of the river if Quebec ever separates, so they gain control of the seaway. And guess what! Quebec wouldn't be able to defend itself! It would have no military! Of course, I'm pretty sure someone like you will just dismiss this as nothing, and probably just find lame-ass half thought of drunken-stupour induced excuses for everything else I have said.

Umm I'm not even talking about Quebec independence...

It doesn't really matter which province you're talking about. I used Quebec here as an example because it's the easiest to illustrate. The principles are the same for any province, albeit the Geographical conditions different.

Wow that is totally ignorant. We are not Quebec and nothing like the province. You might as well compare us to PEI. So yes it does matter.

No, it doesn't. The attitude is different. The international economics are the same. You have a better infrastructure, better set up to be self supportive, but that doesn't matter. You'll still need a source of income that you won't get without trade agreements.

I'm against separation but I'm tired of the provencial blackmail...
3.2 Billion to Quebec and 6.8 for the rest of Canada....this is nothing but BullShit on a grand scale..
I'm just sooooo sick of Quebec being called a Have not Province..While this government screws the Maritimes yet again....Never mind separation its time we kicked them th4e hell out of our country...

I don't care what the next majority party is, but when they do it, I want them to fucking OWN quebec. Give them less then PEI. There is no doubt in my mind that the other provinces would be like....WTF? BOO YAH! And vote them in for eternity.

I'm totally against separation. If Quebec goes, what happens to the Maritimes? And who decides what parts of Quebec get to stay in Canada and what goes with them?

The biggest reason I'm against spearation is that it could effectively mean the end of Canada, because Alberta likely would never accept Ontario's domination of our country. That means either it would separate or the system would have to get totally reworked, which I can't see Ontario accepting either. Odds are, Canada would break up into two - four separate countries, all of which would get swallowed by the USA at some point in the future.