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Have you ever considered moving out of Canada because your living on land that is not yours?

   

Again, its hard to care about the health of your family when you don't even have a job and can't feed them.

And I totally agree with your last statement there,

I love Canada and Canadians. But when the .01% of the vocal ignorant racist nitwits start painting all Indians as lazy and corrupt with our hands out I get offended.

The difference is I'm offended because I am an Indian. You are offended because you have no idea and you have no one else to blame for your ignorance, and I'm betting you pay alot of tax (only a very small portion of your tax actually pays for anything we are talking about here. (Blame the government, they "whited out" that section of our history in your elementary school texts.)

   

Donny...Sorry bud..I have a legal document stating that I own my home and the land it sits on..What do you have? A campfire story? Let's not push this.

   

Hey, that was my line!!

   

You are correct.

Land claims are either for land that bands were entitled to through treaty (Treaty Land Entitlement),

or where treaty does not exist, land claims are for the traditional territory of the First Nations. Thankfully (I think) that most of the unceded land is in BC where the Nation's traditional land was fairlly small compared to some of the prairie Nations.

   

Donny...What I do not understand is how two bands can claim the same parcel of land.

   

Well, in some cases your own supreme court has ruled that the rights we have as First Nations are due to our special status, treaty and your own laws.

So when you tell me the payments I'm entitled to (which allow you to own you home and land in Canada) because of these treaties is not actually "my money" then we get to the legal quagmire of weather or not the paper the title for your house is written on is worth anything...

If you stopped paying your mortgage I wonder how long it would be till the sheriff came along and took it back for the bank.

And it seems to me it's not only a few lazy Indians trying to get something for nothing, but quite a few spoilt Canadians who can't see the forest for the trees.

   

The same way Japan and South Korea can claim the same parcel of land.

   

Sorry I was compensating for my lack of originality and mastery of this accursed language.
Really I don't know how you do this quote thing on the postings. Sometimes its hardfor me to keep up with the technology. They still used horse and wagons here when I was a kid LOL. Well I'll be darned it worked that time!

   

HEy donny... I was reviewing my opening statement (on page 3) and I did use "most of them". I would like to point out that I did mention we are talking of a minority passing as the majority. And the media is not helping the cause. I did mention that on a few occasions already. Consider this a partial retraction of my opening statement. There is a minority of natives that abuses the system, just like some welfare people.

   

Well it's no fun arguing with you guys if you're all going to be so agreeable!



Typically Canadian.

Thanks for the opportunity to address some of these issues though.

   

Those CTF guys are really something.

They scream bloody murder every time Natives try to open a business, create jobs or use our intuition and ingunity to participate in the economy and create jobs.

I'm starting to beleive that these people honestly would rather see Aborigianl people on welfare then in the workplace. You'd think they'd be cheering Aboriginal people on to get and education and to get jobs and create role models in the community and on the job.

An to me welfare is not a good use of taxpayers money. And as a Canadian taxpayer myself I resent them using that name.

   

Accountable? Most of us have been held to such high standards that many reserves simply do not have the manpower to comply.[/quote]
I don't think they're as accountable as an off reserve business is. Don't forget that every other business in the country spends a good chunk of their money collecting and tracking PST and GST as well as the rest that goes along with owning a business. There's the band in Manitoba that forged a Federal letter stating funding was in place to build....I think it was a school. Turns out there was no guaranteed funding from the Feds and a company call Wing Construction who built the building was left unpaid. Needless to say there is no more Wing Construction or the jobs that went with them. The band council also doesn't seem to be accountable to it's own members and do what they please. You are probably more aware of specific cases that have been in the news recently. Lastly my best friend who owns a mechanical contracting company formed another company with a Native business man so they could go after commercial work on the reserves. Whatever money earned by this company can be used for anything without tax and without remitting anything back to the government saying where it went. So when I speak of accountability these are the cases I was thinking of.

   

I don't think they're as accountable as an off reserve business is. Don't forget that every other business in the country spends a good chunk of their money collecting and tracking PST and GST as well as the rest that goes along with owning a business. There's the band in Manitoba that forged a Federal letter stating funding was in place to build....I think it was a school. Turns out there was no guaranteed funding from the Feds and a company call Wing Construction who built the building was left unpaid. Needless to say there is no more Wing Construction or the jobs that went with them. The band council also doesn't seem to be accountable to it's own members and do what they please. You are probably more aware of specific cases that have been in the news recently. Lastly my best friend who owns a mechanical contracting company formed another company with a Native business man so they could go after commercial work on the reserves. Whatever money earned by this company can be used for anything without tax and without remitting anything back to the government saying where it went. So when I speak of accountability these are the cases I was thinking of.[/quote]
Our band, M'Chigeeng First Nation, has learned never to commit based on assurances from Indian Affairs. We are at the whim of bureaucrats that our certainly not accountable to us. They toy with promises of funding then withdraw without any reasons. This is not meant to condone outright fraud. I do not know what the actual circunstnces of this terrible incident but it is not the way we do business in this part of the country. As a matter of fact we pride ourselves on our ability to attract investment based our reputation not as theCanadian taxpayers Federation always harps based on race.
Native people do not pay taxes as part of the deal for sharing the land. Accept that. We have never gotten the benefit of what the relationship was supposedto entail. All natural resources were immorally expropriated forthebenefit of the non-native population. These revenues in turn built your econmy at the scarifice of ours.
As an example, through the Robinson Huron Treaty we were supposed to get revenue from resource extraction. Consider fisheries, mining, forestry, by how many billions did your institutions get to flourish with these revenues. On the other hand the governemnt says we are entitled to $4 a year. Like I have said previously we do not want taxpayer money we could survive if we got what is our, either the agreed on revenues or half the natural resources back.

   

How the hell do you use this quote stuff I just got my response tied to Regina's previous message

   

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