Canada's treatment of Native Indians.
Yes, I do agree that historically Canada has been somewhat rude to the native population. That pales, however, in comparison with what was done in the US and Mexico to decimate their populations. In modern times, so it seems to me, we have swayed too far in the opposite direction and that is just as bad. In a country that is supposedly a land of equality why does one segment have so much given to them? While the rest of the country dreams of having their dentistry subsidised like the rest of medicine my Mowhawk friends from up the street have full benefits. That's what isn't fair in 2005. Natives should be equal in Canada; no more, no less.
I agree, they have been given special treatment long enough, and this special treatment is the core of what is wrong with there society, it causes the problems indirectly.
Regina @ Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:21 am
NYCisHome NYCisHome:
Ok if you know it all you post the link on where they got the money to start up. I think you would never be happy no matter what i post. And where did I get my ass beat off???
To quote one of the best debaters I've seen around here. "I'm not your monkey" So find the answer yourself, you started this thread using the internet because you didn't and still don't know diddly-doo. I'd be happy knowing you had some facts at hand before blurting out poorly researched internet myths. You must be getting hungry.....you should try a bowl so everything doesn't run off your plate.
Looked like you got your ass beat off in the White house thread.
Regina @ Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:24 am
figfarmer figfarmer:
Yes, I do agree that historically Canada has been somewhat rude to the native population. That pales, however, in comparison with what was done in the US and Mexico to decimate their populations. In modern times, so it seems to me, we have swayed too far in the opposite direction and that is just as bad. In a country that is supposedly a land of equality why does one segment have so much given to them? While the rest of the country dreams of having their dentistry subsidised like the rest of medicine my Mowhawk friends from up the street have full benefits. That's what isn't fair in 2005. Natives should be equal in Canada; no more, no less.
Apparently he doesn't want us to talk about the US treatment of natives, just the poorly treated ones here in Canada. Sounds better when it's just one sided.
Regina Regina:
figfarmer figfarmer:
Yes, I do agree that historically Canada has been somewhat rude to the native population. That pales, however, in comparison with what was done in the US and Mexico to decimate their populations. In modern times, so it seems to me, we have swayed too far in the opposite direction and that is just as bad. In a country that is supposedly a land of equality why does one segment have so much given to them? While the rest of the country dreams of having their dentistry subsidised like the rest of medicine my Mowhawk friends from up the street have full benefits. That's what isn't fair in 2005. Natives should be equal in Canada; no more, no less.
Apparently he doesn't want us to talk about the US treatment of natives, just the poorly treated ones here in Canada. Sounds better when it's just one sided.

Given that this is a forum about CANADA, I would've thought to keep the forum on topic rather than take a kop out approach such as yourself and morally relativise everything.
So the States is probably just as guilty as Canada, I concede. But how does that further any of your argument. Oh, let's just point the finger at the big bad USA, because we Canucks all like to yammer on endlessly about our Moral Superiority,
So I guess it goes without saying that as long as Mexico and The USA have treated their respective populations a little worse than we have, that makes it alright. Nice moral equivocation. Nice logic. Only a Liberal reasons like that.
Here's an article about Ahenakew, where another First Nations chief states that National Post articles covering his situation will only "INCREASE" native Canadians' hatred for Jews. Notice how he pluralised that one, I'm not sure what his agenda is, but it does make me curious.
Why on earth would Natives have a reason to hate Jews? Maybe they've been reading too many leftist newspapers like the Toronto Star, and watching too much CBC, maybe that's where they get their anti-Semitism from, who knows?
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national ... 50411.html
Canadaka Canadaka:
I agree, they have been given special treatment long enough, and this special treatment is the core of what is wrong with there society, it causes the problems indirectly.
You and Fig Nailed it... The more we give, the more they expect... same for welfare. I think it was Erinites that said: "we all are captains' of our own ships'"
Regina Regina:
NYCisHome NYCisHome:
Ok if you know it all you post the link on where they got the money to start up. I think you would never be happy no matter what i post. And where did I get my ass beat off???
To quote one of the best debaters I've seen around here. "I'm not your monkey" So find the answer yourself, you started this thread using the internet because you didn't and still don't know diddly-doo. I'd be happy knowing you had some facts at hand before blurting out poorly researched internet myths. You must be getting hungry.....you should try a bowl so everything doesn't run off your plate.
Looked like you got your ass beat off in the White house thread.
I got my ass beat off the White house Thread? More like it got so idiodic i stoped responding. I qouted many factual links on this thread and all you do is blurt out nonsense. And what in gods name are you talking about "internet myths?" Are you trying to say the sites I posted are lying? I have yet to see you give a intelligent reponse.
Regina Regina:
-Mario- -Mario-:
This whole thread stated with NYCisHome... where is he anyway.
Burger King only gives 1/2 hour lunches.

What are you rtying to say I work at burger king? are you gonna tell me next that your sneakers run faster then mine?
-Mario- @ Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:26 am
NYCisHome NYCisHome:
Regina Regina:
-Mario- -Mario-:
This whole thread stated with NYCisHome... where is he anyway.
Burger King only gives 1/2 hour lunches.

What are you rtying to say I work at burger king? are you gonna tell me next that your sneakers run faster then mine?
Trying to change the subject???
And no... they don't run faster... just cheaper, I paid in Canadian Dollar.
Regina @ Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:26 am
NYCisHome NYCisHome:
Regina Regina:
NYCisHome NYCisHome:
Ok if you know it all you post the link on where they got the money to start up. I think you would never be happy no matter what i post. And where did I get my ass beat off???
To quote one of the best debaters I've seen around here. "I'm not your monkey" So find the answer yourself, you started this thread using the internet because you didn't and still don't know diddly-doo. I'd be happy knowing you had some facts at hand before blurting out poorly researched internet myths. You must be getting hungry.....you should try a bowl so everything doesn't run off your plate.
Looked like you got your ass beat off in the White house thread.
I got my ass beat off the White house Thread? More like it got so idiodic i stoped responding. I qouted many factual links on this thread and all you do is blurt out nonsense. And what in gods name are you talking about "internet myths?" Are you trying to say the sites I posted are lying? I have yet to see you give a intelligent reponse.
Lets look over the last facts you tried to slay us with.
Corporations were making the money because they bankrolled the project.
False, owned by First Nations
Named big corporation that bankrolled project.
False, it is a managing group that secured the contract in 2001...5 years after it opened.
You actually read the link you posted.
False, otherwise you wouldn't have used it.
You own a dictionary that still has the page with the word "fact" on it.
False, because if you did, you'd see how weak you look.
You've posted a internet link that supports your accusations.
False, and anyone that thinks the internet should be used for primary research needs to finish school.....grade school.
Regina @ Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:28 am
NYCisHome NYCisHome:
Regina Regina:
-Mario- -Mario-:
This whole thread stated with NYCisHome... where is he anyway.
Burger King only gives 1/2 hour lunches.

What are you rtying to say I work at burger king? are you gonna tell me next that your sneakers run faster then mine?
#1- Yes
#2- Don't know.... I wear dress shoes.
-Mario- -Mario-:
NYCisHome NYCisHome:
Regina Regina:
-Mario- -Mario-:
This whole thread stated with NYCisHome... where is he anyway.
Burger King only gives 1/2 hour lunches.

What are you rtying to say I work at burger king? are you gonna tell me next that your sneakers run faster then mine?
Trying to change the subject???
And no... they don't run faster... just cheaper, I paid in Canadian Dollar.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Wow I get it everyone gangs up on me because I posted a thread that disputes that Canada is this big great land of understanding and tolerance. Then everyone calls me stupid and that I must have a low paying non gratfying job. It does not take away from the topic at hand how Canada treats its natives. Just because you are told that Canada is not like the USA and treats all of its citizens fairly does not mean its true.
-Mario- @ Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:47 am
You are on a Canadian site... talking about Canadian matter... what did you expect.
Back to the subject... I left off at...
The more we give, the more they expect... same for welfare. I think it was Erinites that said: "we all are captains' of our own ships'"
Regina Regina:
NYCisHome NYCisHome:
Regina Regina:
NYCisHome NYCisHome:
Ok if you know it all you post the link on where they got the money to start up. I think you would never be happy no matter what i post. And where did I get my ass beat off???
To quote one of the best debaters I've seen around here. "I'm not your monkey" So find the answer yourself, you started this thread using the internet because you didn't and still don't know diddly-doo. I'd be happy knowing you had some facts at hand before blurting out poorly researched internet myths. You must be getting hungry.....you should try a bowl so everything doesn't run off your plate.
Looked like you got your ass beat off in the White house thread.
I got my ass beat off the White house Thread? More like it got so idiodic i stoped responding. I qouted many factual links on this thread and all you do is blurt out nonsense. And what in gods name are you talking about "internet myths?" Are you trying to say the sites I posted are lying? I have yet to see you give a intelligent reponse.
Lets look over the last facts you tried to slay us with.
Corporations were making the money because they bankrolled the project.False, owned by First Nations
Named big corporation that bankrolled project.False, it is a managing group that secured the contract in 2001...5 years after it opened.
You actually read the link you posted.False, otherwise you wouldn't have used it.
You own a dictionary that still has the page with the word "fact" on it.False, because if you did, you'd see how weak you look.
You've posted a internet link that supports your accusations.False, and anyone that thinks the internet should be used for primary research needs to finish school.....grade school.
Blurting nonsense again? So I am supposed to beleive you because you say it. And this post is not about casino rama Its on how Canada treats it natives. Mario asked for a link on how Canada was on the UN watchlist for its treatment of its natives. And then you come here harping on this Casino Rama b.s. what's the problem you cant handle the truth that Canada does treat its natives like shit.
PJB @ Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:52 am
NYC...No offence but you are making general claims without knowledge of specifics. When asked for specifics you once again post generalizations.
Canada does not have a perfect record when dealing with our Aboriginal Canadians and that is a fact but our neighbours to the south should know the facts before making accusations.
Native run casinos make profits for native bands, although here in Saskatchewan the province does take a percentage of the profits but these profits are used for the good of everyone living here including the natives. The native profits are not used for addiction programs as the natives think that problem gambling is a provincial problem even if it is created by some of these same casinos. These very same casinos that knowingly break provincial laws under the guise of jurisdiction.