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Alot of Bloc Supporters are Conservatives, mind you.

Also, Harper won't be able to win a majority without Seats in Toronto, Montréal and Vancouver.

   

The big cities generate close to 60-70% of the Federal Governements income.

Agriculture is only subsidized so it can compet with American Produces that is even more subsidized and dumps its good on the market at a MUCH lower price then Canadian Farms.

Besides, its a free market economy. If the food can't be produced in Canada, it will come from elsewhere.

Seriously, sometimes I get the impression you play games like Sim City too much and think the real world works the same way.

   

Dude, you should've seen him during the Ontario Provincial Election; he kept trying to blame the public for failing to understand John Tory(PC Party) which resulted in another Liberal Majority for Dalton McGuinty.

   

if canadian farmers didn't produce food we'd have some serious problems , no i don't waste my time playing sim city video games .

but in the real world do booming cities really deserve financial aid , honestly ?

   

that really doesn't have much to do with this topic ,

other factors lead to tory's defeat such as the hard hiting and endless working family/union ads , that group spent millions runing them and they were all anti tory .
but mostly tory lost the election himself over faith based thing , guess thats how we got to this point of harper having to meet mcguinty in downtown toronto .

but would rather discuss the funding issue instead or the old news related to the electon .

   

Federal funding of cities is good politics, poor policy. Cities are creatures of the provinicial government. They are not an area of federal responsbility. If ther feds want to help, they should give the provinces more money.

   

The cities in the USA have additional taxing power. A sales tax in some if I got that right.

   

toronto has allready been given these "powers by dalton " the city can now impose taxes on many things the first were house transfer and car registration.

but expect many more to come mayor miller is only geting started and will use any excuse he can find for more .

   

Jesus Christ is from Toronto, the feds need to help Toronto at all costs.

   

For the first point, no we wouldnt have a serious problem. Sure, prices would rise, but in the long run, production in the USA would rise to meet our demands. Its a free market economy, that means, the economy almost always adapts to new realities.

If Canadians Cities we're allowed to expand their revenu source then they wouldnt need extra funding. Small cities don't need to maintain a billion dollar transit system. Toronto, yes.

   

This is exactly how it should be. Give more money to the provinces, and then they can send more to the cities, or elsewhere. In the end, its up to the Provinces, not Ottawa.

   

thats a good statement but it's value has limits

if it wasn't for the coal miners that produce the coal for the steel industry that supplies the steel to the farm tractor companies that allow the farmers to produce food without using a shovel and a pick.....get my point?

   

I agree too. The Feds are way too busy to care about how much individual money each city/town/county should receive. They shouldn't have their hand in that far deep.


kevlarman, as for your post after mine

"But Jcan, isn't the situation you mentioned above with Edmonton a problem that could be better assessed if the neighbouring communities would pitch and pay a user fee or come to some other arrangement with the city they are nearby? And as far as helping the cities out, where's the province? That's what they are there for. Feds help the provinces, provinces help the cities, municipalities and counties. If I'm wrong forgive my ignorance and educated me to the contrary but where are the damn Premiers?"

Where are the damn premiers? How can the Alberta Government be raking in billions all this time (Prior to the billions they just gave out) and barely share? I feel the Premier Stelmach is trying to undo a lot of the hurt Klein put on the cities/towns. (Why Calgary kept voting him in baffles me). It was the province who told my Town and the surrounding MD to "Sort it all out" (as in sharing resouces such as water, roads, etc). The MD doesn't want anything to do with the Town at all, unless it comes wimpering back asking for a water connection to a MD property. Other than that, they won't come to the table if the Town asks for anything in return. Of course it's a little more complicated than I told it, but I hope you get the jist of it.

As for the Edmonton Situation, the neighbouring communities do not want to pitch in and that is the whole problem! I don't want to put a blanket statement out there, but if Edmonton put up toll booths, that could just make those communities fall in line a whole lot quicker!

   

LOL that's why farmers get the same prices for grasin they got in the 50's eh.



In the real world the cities get immigration

immigration = wealth

Thus they have lots of wealth even if Torontos unemployment is 6.9% so theres no worries.

Why would populations based on the hardest working Canadians need everyone else to help them out.

Thats silly.


Or are people lying?

   

In fact to push the economy ahead we ve to take care about the big cities as like as Toronto or Montreal.

Notwithstanding give moeny 4 the smallest ones & especially the countrysides cities is a waste of money & time.

   

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