Canada Kicks Ass
ELECTION 2021 - Trudeau calls federal election

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Scape @ Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:28 pm

English debate... um can we have the moderator as PM cuz dam she was packing heat!

   



Thanos @ Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:06 pm

Scape Scape:
....the moderator....she was packing heat!


$1:
Unfair! Totally against us & America! Sad!

Fuckface Trump, 2016 & 2020

   



DrCaleb @ Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:14 am

   



herbie @ Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:46 am

Little gained from the debate.
That the quality of the press has degraded so far that they all thought the insults were what 'debates' were all about. Not one single question from them to Paul was on an environmental issue.
So much time wasted on Party #4 and Party #5 we all got little.

   



Sunnyways @ Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:56 am

Does Trudeau interrupt more than the others? In the snippets I’ve watched he seems to love talking over O’Toole so you can’t make out what’s being said by either of them. It’s a childish tactic that should be penalized more severely.

The best thing about our elections - how soon they are over.

   



bootlegga @ Fri Sep 10, 2021 1:11 pm

herbie herbie:
Little gained from the debate.
That the quality of the press has degraded so far that they all thought the insults were what 'debates' were all about. Not one single question from them to Paul was on an environmental issue.
So much time wasted on Party #4 and Party #5 we all got little.


I agree that the debate didn't show me much at all. Trudeau just kept to talking points and messaging without much emotion or sincerity. Singh came across as rude, O-Toole was lying his ass off constantly, and Paul just kept saying, "Can't we all get along?"

Otherwise, most media channels are saying Trudeau lost, but it seemed like a huge dog pile where everyone, including several 'moderators' cut off and piled on Trudeau, which seemed damned unprofessional.

However, to be honest, if Blanchett was running just about any other party, I'd probably vote for him, because he made a bunch of good points and had some funny zingers.

   



DrCaleb @ Fri Sep 10, 2021 1:22 pm

bootlegga bootlegga:
However, to be honest, if Blanchett was running just about any other party, I'd probably vote for him, because he made a bunch of good points and had some funny zingers.


Yup. He seems like someone you could sit down and have a beer with. If he weren't a traitor, that is.

   



Scape @ Fri Sep 10, 2021 1:25 pm

Or a French speaking white nationalist.

   



Sunnyways @ Fri Sep 10, 2021 1:26 pm

bootlegga bootlegga:
However, to be honest, if Blanchett was running just about any other party, I'd probably vote for him, because he made a bunch of good points and had some funny zingers.


The BQ guys have the appearance of a random French guy at the pub who’s giving us his opinions. Gilles Duceppe was always fun to watch, not least for the funny faces he’d pull. I certainly envy their fluency in a second language. Bouchard and Duceppe were superb that way.

   



Scape @ Fri Sep 10, 2021 1:36 pm

Federal leaders debate: Jagmeet Singh misses his moment

$1:
Justin Ling: The NDP leader was too busy roasting the incumbent to sell himself as a PM-in-waiting

Jagmeet Singh spent so much time making the case that Justin Trudeau is the wrong leader for Canada, he forgot to make the case he’s the right one.

Over a snippy two-hour debate, Singh chastized the Liberal leader for failing on climate, pharmacare and reconciliation with Indigenous peoples—and he was frequently the most effective interrogator of Trudeau’s oft-lauded bona fides.

But when it came to offering voters specifics of how he would govern, or even a compelling emotional reason why he’s better suited to lead than the others, Singh largely repeated the script he’s been reading for the whole campaign.

Would he scrap the Trans Mountain pipeline upon being elected? Who knows. Where would his investments go to get CO2 emissions down by 50 per cent? Couldn’t say. How would he protect Indigenous ancestral rights to logging, fishing and hunting? No idea.

Voters at home would certainly come away from Thursday’s debate knowing that Singh wants to “make the rich pay their fair share,” as if that were ever in doubt. But that often sounded like the deepest policy proposal he had under his belt.

But that doesn’t mean he wasn’t effective on the stage.

Going into the debate, a strategist on Singh’s team told me not expect fireworks from the NDP leader. During the campaign, Singh isn’t even keen to interrupt his own staff when they argue; they said not to expect anything different onstage.

Singh, however, was most effective when he poked Trudeau in the chest.

“You can’t a knee one day and take Indigenous kids to court the next day,” Singh told Trudeau, over Canada’s continued failure to ensure decent care for Indigenous youth.

Trudeau, clearly flustered, cut Singh off: “It’s actually not true.” He later insisted that Singh’s criticism actually harmed Canada’s effort to advance reconciliation.

The Liberal leader was, himself, fact-checked by longtime advocate Cindy Blackstock, who tweeted: “You have a right to litigate against First Nations children and have chosen to do so—you don’t have the right to make false statements about it.”

And there’s pharmacare: “You committed, you campaigned on it, you included it in your throne speech—now you’ve abandoned it,” Singh told him.

On climate, too, Singh caught Trudeau in a falsehood: After needling the Liberals for missing emissions target after emissions target, Trudeau sniped back: “We haven’t missed any targets.”

Of course, that’s not true either. Under Trudeau, Canada has blown past the targets it committed to under the Kyoto Accord (targets, of course, jettisoned by a then Conservative government) and the Copenhagen Accord. As Singh and Green leader Annamie Paul were quick to point out, Canada has been the only G7 country to see its emissions rise in recent years.

But a good effort in keeping the incumbent honest doesn’t exactly build a strong case to elect a party that’s never governed on the federal level.

And to a large degree, Singh walked onto the debate stage either with one hand tied behind his back or with a dirty secret he’s intent on hiding—in their infinite wisdom, the NDP has opted to keep their costed platform a secret until Saturday.

That meant that, with every opportunity to put his “bold” and “ambitious” plan on the table, he lacked any figures to back it up, instead pivoting to platitudes and incessant optimism.

If Trudeau “announces things, then never delivers,” as Singh said at one point, then the NDP strategy appears to be: Never announce things.

It didn’t help that Singh was stood next to Paul, who frequently elucidated the same criticisms of the Prime Minister with a bit more specificity.

At the end of the day, Singh’s gesture towards Erin O’Toole and Trudeau—”let me tell you, you’re not stuck with these two”—might be his most effective gambit, but it won’t make him Prime Minister.

   



Scape @ Fri Sep 10, 2021 1:43 pm

Here is the link to the Federal Court webcast of the government fighting against First Nations kids wanting to deny them help under Jordan’s Principle and compensation Federal Court - Webcast

   



Tricks @ Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:03 pm

Scape Scape:
Or a French speaking white nationalist.

This.

   



Scape @ Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:06 pm

   



CDN_PATRIOT @ Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:42 pm

bootlegga bootlegga:
However, to be honest, if Blanchett was running just about any other party, I'd probably vote for him, because he made a bunch of good points and had some funny zingers.


I said the same thing last time around! Blanchet is very articulate and makes MANY good points in his arguments. If he wasn't a separatist, I'd have no problem voting for him. He's the only Bloc leader I've ever liked, and mainly because of how he handles himself.

Such a waste.

-J.

   



CDN_PATRIOT @ Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:44 pm

Sunnyways Sunnyways:
The best thing about our elections - how soon they are over.


Yes, it will be over soon. Problem is, it will be the most expensive election ever, pegged at almost $700-million of our dollars. Not happy about that!

-J.

   



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