Expensive oil means viable alternative energy
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Benoit @ Tue May 27, 2008 1:24 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
dog77_1999 dog77_1999:
I'd imagine wind power conglomerates(like GE and Siemens) have benifited from higher energy costs.
Slipping slightly OT, but wanna read a cool editorial on that?
NBC’s ‘Green Week’ and GE’s green
Our civilisation is not viable without cheap energy and wind power is an expensive substitute for oil.
romanP @ Tue May 27, 2008 1:25 pm
C.M. Burns C.M. Burns:
and we're going to maintain millions of miles of roadway with what? Ashphalt made from corn oil? Plain old concrete?
I'm sure the cigarette industry could cough up the tar.
Actually, it's coal tar that's used for roads. And there's definitely still lots of coal around.
Benoit @ Tue May 27, 2008 1:27 pm
romanP romanP:
C.M. Burns C.M. Burns:
and we're going to maintain millions of miles of roadway with what? Ashphalt made from corn oil? Plain old concrete?
I'm sure the cigarette industry could cough up the tar.
Actually, it's coal tar that's used for roads. And there's definitely still lots of coal around.
Stressful events require stronger cigarettes.
N_Fiddledog @ Tue May 27, 2008 3:53 pm
Benoit Benoit:
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
dog77_1999 dog77_1999:
I'd imagine wind power conglomerates(like GE and Siemens) have benifited from higher energy costs.
Slipping slightly OT, but wanna read a cool editorial on that?
NBC’s ‘Green Week’ and GE’s green
Our civilisation is not viable without cheap energy and wind power is an expensive substitute for oil.
GE's entrance into the alternate energy game doesn't necessarily have to do with wind power. Seriously, read the linked editorial.
NBC’s ‘Green Week’ and GE’s green
Wally_Sconce @ Tue May 27, 2008 6:47 pm
I'm in favor of an electric vehicle solution where the energy comes from clean coal technology.
Benoit @ Tue May 27, 2008 7:10 pm
Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:
I'm in favor of an electric vehicle solution where the energy comes from clean coal technology.
"Clean coal" is coal gasification.
dog77_1999 @ Tue May 27, 2008 7:38 pm
Benoit Benoit:
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
dog77_1999 dog77_1999:
I'd imagine wind power conglomerates(like GE and Siemens) have benifited from higher energy costs.
Slipping slightly OT, but wanna read a cool editorial on that?
NBC’s ‘Green Week’ and GE’s green
Our civilisation is not viable without cheap energy and wind power is an expensive substitute for oil.
Per Watt wind power is 5x cheaper than gasoline. It is a great subsitute for oil. Heck, any fixed power source is a great alternative than oil.
Benoit @ Tue May 27, 2008 7:50 pm
dog77_1999 dog77_1999:
Per Watt wind power is 5x cheaper than gasoline. It is a great subsitute for oil. Heck, any fixed power source is a great alternative than oil.
Where there is no wind, there is no kWh.
dog77_1999 @ Tue May 27, 2008 8:04 pm
Benoit Benoit:
dog77_1999 dog77_1999:
Per Watt wind power is 5x cheaper than gasoline. It is a great subsitute for oil. Heck, any fixed power source is a great alternative than oil.
Where there is no wind, there is no kWh.
And wind you have no gas, there is no energy to run your car. There are ways to store wind power energy. The most affordable way is to store pressurized air in underground caverens.
Benoit @ Tue May 27, 2008 8:13 pm
dog77_1999 dog77_1999:
Benoit Benoit:
dog77_1999 dog77_1999:
Per Watt wind power is 5x cheaper than gasoline. It is a great subsitute for oil. Heck, any fixed power source is a great alternative than oil.
Where there is no wind, there is no kWh.
There are ways to store wind power energy. The most affordable way is to store pressurized air in underground caverens.
Powerful enough electric batteries are still posing problems.
dog77_1999 @ Tue May 27, 2008 9:12 pm
True, I addressed this issue in my first post. Our current battery technology won't work for our needs. I think we would need fuel cell like storage and energy distribution system to work well.
Wally_Sconce @ Tue May 27, 2008 9:14 pm
dog77_1999 dog77_1999:
Benoit Benoit:
Where there is no wind, there is no kWh.
And wind you have no gas, there is no energy to run your car. There are ways to store wind power energy. The most affordable way is to store pressurized air in underground caverens.
underground caverns from mining coal.
Benoit @ Wed May 28, 2008 7:31 am
dog77_1999 dog77_1999:
True, I addressed this issue in my first post. Our current battery technology won't work for our needs. I think we would need fuel cell like storage and energy distribution system to work well.
I prefer questioning our needs.
CanAm1 @ Wed May 28, 2008 7:46 am
Now this is an idea I can get behind. I am not a Global Warming alarmist but I love the idea of saving energy and helping the environment. Sounds like I am contradicting myself, and past statements by wanting to be a better steward of the environment. I might be, but I still don't think we are headed over a cliff like alot of people do.
Having said that, I would like an alternative to the gas consumming vehicles of today. Has anyone got knowledge of solar type cells.
The rail system while expensive to impliment would work and could work as long as once you are off the rail that the batteries hold enough power to get you to an area where you can plug in or use a gas assist to recharge the batteries. They could even hace a monthly charge for usage as long as it was reasonable.
I like the idea of using the electricity to run first and when power is low have the gas kick in to recharge them. Are there any current vehicles that do that?
Benoit @ Wed May 28, 2008 7:57 am
CanAm1 CanAm1:
Now this is an idea I can get behind. I am not a Global Warming alarmist but I love the idea of saving energy and helping the environment.
Global warming alarmist is mainly an insult made to intimidate.
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