Expensive oil means viable alternative energy
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RUEZ @ Wed May 28, 2008 8:02 am
Benoit Benoit:
CanAm1 CanAm1:
Now this is an idea I can get behind. I am not a Global Warming alarmist but I love the idea of saving energy and helping the environment.
Global warming alarmist is mainly an insult made to intimidate.
I'll bet you have a job writing for fortune cookies.
CanAm1 @ Wed May 28, 2008 8:05 am
How did you guess? 
romanP @ Wed May 28, 2008 8:05 am
CanAm1 CanAm1:
I like the idea of using the electricity to run first and when power is low have the gas kick in to recharge them. Are there any current vehicles that do that?
The Chevy Volt does exactly that, but it's currently in development and not yet for sale.
romanP @ Wed May 28, 2008 8:06 am
RUEZ RUEZ:
Benoit Benoit:
CanAm1 CanAm1:
Now this is an idea I can get behind. I am not a Global Warming alarmist but I love the idea of saving energy and helping the environment.
Global warming alarmist is mainly an insult made to intimidate.
I'll bet you have a job writing for fortune cookies.
You like Chinese food.
CanAm1 @ Wed May 28, 2008 8:08 am
Benoit Benoit:
CanAm1 CanAm1:
Now this is an idea I can get behind. I am not a Global Warming alarmist but I love the idea of saving energy and helping the environment.
Global warming alarmist is mainly an insult made to intimidate.
I live in the US and you live in Canada. How can I intimidate you? I also didn't mean it in any such manner. I have just taken so many anti Global Warming stands that people might get me confused for someone that believes in that drivel.
RUEZ @ Wed May 28, 2008 8:14 am
romanP romanP:
RUEZ RUEZ:
I'll bet you have a job writing for fortune cookies.
You like Chinese food.
Next to Mexican it's one of the greatest foods on earth.
Benoit @ Wed May 28, 2008 8:15 am
CanAm1 CanAm1:
Benoit Benoit:
CanAm1 CanAm1:
Now this is an idea I can get behind. I am not a Global Warming alarmist but I love the idea of saving energy and helping the environment.
Global warming alarmist is mainly an insult made to intimidate.
I live in the US and you live in Canada. How can I intimidate you? I also didn't mean it in any such manner. I have just taken so many anti Global Warming stands that people might get me confused for someone that believes in that drivel.
Nothing personal!
CanAm1 @ Wed May 28, 2008 8:49 am
Benoit Benoit:
CanAm1 CanAm1:
Benoit Benoit:
Global warming alarmist is mainly an insult made to intimidate.
I live in the US and you live in Canada. How can I intimidate you? I also didn't mean it in any such manner. I have just taken so many anti Global Warming stands that people might get me confused for someone that believes in that drivel.
Nothing personal!
It's all good!
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dog77_1999 @ Wed May 28, 2008 8:49 am
Benoit Benoit:
dog77_1999 dog77_1999:
True, I addressed this issue in my first post. Our current battery technology won't work for our needs. I think we would need fuel cell like storage and energy distribution system to work well.
I prefer questioning our needs.
So, there is no need to have a transportation system that doesn't rely on fixed infrastructure and alternative fuels? Are you sure about that? Not saying it isn't possible, but you are going back to horses with this.
CamAm1, any hybrid car does just that. It would be an excellent choice if you drive in the city. The emissions from the vehicle are considerbly less than pure gas vehicles.
Benoit @ Wed May 28, 2008 8:50 am
CanAm1 CanAm1:
Benoit Benoit:
Nothing personal!
It's all good!
Back to the topic now.
Bruce_the_vii @ Thu May 29, 2008 11:13 pm
Actually I think high oil prices will force the issue, so I'm actually excited. It takes a long time to build the plant for the alternatives. It generally takes 10 years to get a nuclear plant ready, 14 years if your Dalton McGuinty and want to decide weither or not to go with the made in Ontario reactors.
Wally_Sconce @ Fri May 30, 2008 7:22 am
coal power is cheaper than oil or nuclear. and its clean these days.
Benoit @ Fri May 30, 2008 9:14 am
Bruce_the_vii Bruce_the_vii:
Actually I think high oil prices will force the issue, so I'm actually excited. It takes a long time to build the plant for the alternatives. It generally takes 10 years to get a nuclear plant ready, 14 years if your Dalton McGuinty and want to decide weither or not to go with the made in Ontario reactors.
With fewer cars in cities, it will be less dangerous to deliver the mail by feet or with a bicycle.
N_Fiddledog @ Fri May 30, 2008 9:56 am
Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:
coal power is cheaper than oil or nuclear. and its clean these days.
I imagine you're talking about coal-to-oil, right? It's cleaner than oil, or conventional coal, and economically viable at current prices.
The only real problem with it is it releases CO2 in the manufacturing process. So if you don't mind CO2, but you don't like actual air pollution Coal-to-oil is the way to go. Even with CO2, that can be sequestered or sold to oil companies to release more oil from old wells.
The technology continues to improve. We should hear more about coal-to-oil in the near future.
Some more on coal-to-oil
hurley_108 @ Fri May 30, 2008 10:06 am
Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:
coal power is cheaper than oil or nuclear. and its clean these days.
Coal is nowhere near clean. Coal plants spew massive amounts of mercury, sulphur dioxide, nitrogen dioxide, and all manner of other nasty stuff. They're in the same league as smelters and tar sands opertions for toxic emissions.
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