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Don't worry, the press will shoot this down. They'll spin it onto another axis. They are already grasping at Grewals citizenship.
I wonder if that dog that joined the Liberal party wants to cross the floor?

This is pretty funny though.

   

I love it!

Yes, Grewal is a little slime who is pretty well done. In my opinion, he was told to go on stress leave and the only reason they didn't kick him out of caucus is that they may need his vote before the next election.

Never mind that there are three guilty parties on the other side.

What is the scoop with this letter? When is it being released officially?

   

I think it has already been. It may not make it onto the CBC untill the Liberals have a good spin on it though.

   

Actually, it was on CBC's news site BEFORE anyone elses. I check out CBC, Canoe, National Post and CTV news before going to work. Want to know the only one that reported on this memo? I won't tell you because you won't believe me anyway. But I will say that it was the top story on their main page. Delusional people here. Really.

Anyhow, as for the memo, yes, I see, the Conservatives hired someone to say that the tape was un-altered. Wonderful. I knew the name Randy Dash sounded familiar, so I checked it out. He was the guy that first called the tapes into question. Funny how when someone is paying your tab, you change your mind rather quickly.

In any case, I'm wiling to bet $50 to anyone willing to take me up that the tape was altered. The Conservatives have said that it is unaltered and they are the party of truth and honour, no? First person to claim the action gets it.

   

OMG...whatever!

You're telling me the "experts" hired by the CBC last week are to be believed.

   

No, see, that's fine. You believe that the guy the Conservatives hired is telling the truth and the guy that CBC ask is lying. I'm asking you to put your money where your mouth is. I'll even up it to $100. I'm just giving my money away here, right? You believe that the Conservatives wouldn't lie, now would they? Are we on?

   

"The MSM is calling Randy Dash, "the Tories audio expert". He is not the Tories audio expert, he is /was the Liberals audio expert. According to Minister Valeri in Question Period 6 June(1440) he-Dash- claimed the tapes were altered. Now The CPC lets him analyse the originals and he says they are clean. How will the Libs explain that?. Smart move on Harper's part to use the Liberals own "expert" . "



This was who the CBC hired: A "forensics expert" who, working off digitized copies of the Grewal tapes, concluded that they were altered deliberately and that artifacts could not be explained as being a result of a copying or conversion process:

John J. Mitchell ("Jack"), Years experience: 30+/audio - 3/forensic audio. Education: * 1964-1976; The Pennsylvania State University

Under graduate & graduate study - music education and music composition.

Began study of electronic music in 1967. Such study includes recording and editing techniques, signal design, analysis, processing and full semester physics courses which were specific to the physics of sound. Have been involved with audio and signal analysis and processing in one form or another ever since.

1992: Univ. of New Mexico: 1 credit short course - Music and Technology

Other: Have taught both public school and college. From 1987 to 1995 was the editor/arranger/orchestrator for the John Donald Robb Musical Trust, University of New Mexico Foundation.

"Thus far, I am able to boast a realistic 99% success rate with regard to my forensic work. (That assessment has come from clients, not myself). JM "

Jack Mitchell owner/engineer: Commercial Audio \ Forensic Audio
Computer Audio Engineering aka: CAE Studio

He also boasts accreditation from the American College of Forensic Examiners as his only forensics certification, of which it has been said:
"He basically takes people's money and gives them a worthless piece of paper," says Robert Phillips, an Audubon, N.J., document examiner. "He's just in it for the money." Phillips claims he has reason to know. He says he resigned as chair of the organization's certification committee in 1993 after discovering that O'Block was issuing credentials to unqualified candidates behind the committee's back.

Andre Moenssens, a law school professor at the University of Missouri-Kansas City and an expert on scientific evidence, goes even further. He says O'Block's organization is basically a certification mill. "For the right amount of money, he will certify just about anybody as an expert in anything," Moenssens says.

This is who the Conservatives hired: A "professional audio engineer specializing in post-production work" examining the original tapes, making no claim as a forensic specialist, states that the clips were unaltered clean recordings. Here are his credentials:
Summary of qualifications
2002 - present: Professor, Broadcasting - TV, School of Media & Design, Algonquin College, Ottawa

2001 - present: Operations Manager, dMAX Media, Ottawa,
- managing a production/post-production company as well as performing videography & editing tasks in the field.

1995 - present: Freelance Post-Production Consultant
- contracted to consult and implement the production & post-production process for numerous clients' productions. Assisted with all tasks from program concept to completion & delivery of finished productions. Clients include; The Discovery Channel. WTN, CPAC, CBC, CTV, Global TV, Government and Corporate contacts as well as many independent producers.

1985 - 1995: Senior Editor, General Assembly Production Centre (GAPC) Ottawa,Ontario
- edited thousands of programs for various producers. Involvement included conceptual assistance in program, graphics and animation creation as well as post-audio consultation. Regularly assisted in coordinating the entire post-production process from off-line to delivery of finished programs.

Related Experience
- June 2003: received manufacturer's training: Discreet Logic Fire & Inferno on HDTV platform, SGI Onyx, Unix OS.
- currently using & instructing various 3D & 2D animation applications such as: 3ds Max, Adobe After Effects, Adobe Photoshop & Steinberg Cubase VST 24, Adobe Audition, Pro Tools to list a few.
- have operated various non-linear hard-disk recording/editing systems; Avid Media Composers & Media Suite Pro, Media 100, Final Cut Pro 4, Imix Videocube/Stratasphere, Adobe Premiere, D-Vision & Discreet Logic
- have earned numerous local & international awards for dramatic & non-dramatic editing of programs such as Music Videos, Corporate presentations, Government and Institutional programs, documentaries, commercials etc.


A college professor and an award winning editor familiar with a list of explicitly named recording and editing systems. Presents himself as an expert in modern electronic media and nothing else.

   

So, ridenrain, are WE on? BtNDPFG hasn't taken the candy from the baby yet, so you want a piece of the action? I mean, you are so sure of yourself here, right? Like I said, I'm just giving my money away here.

   

You can put Paul Martins money back in you're pocket. You need to read what's posted.
Randy Dash listened to the copy and said it was altered
Randy Dash listened to the originals and now he says they are clean.

You just have to sit through all the mundane orders for pizza, irate neighbors, and the odd 1-800 number.

   

Police close file on Grewal airport incident
CTV.ca News Staff

The RCMP and federal transport officials have dropped their investigation of Conservative MP Gurmant Grewal over an incident at Vancouver International Airport.


link

   

A nice sumary:

"After he taped the PMO in action, Grewal was first probed by the RCMP, Transport Canada and Air Canada for doing something completely legal -- handing a cassette to someone who was on the same flight that Grewal had already paid for, after he had already passed security. Then, five days later, his immigration status was suddenly under investigation. And now, the RCMP and the CBC is after him again, this time over a few $600 cheques and a $1000 cheque which were made out not to a political party, but to Grewal himself.

Terry Milewski: "Gurmant Grewal is already under investigation after tape-recording his conversations with Liberals about crossing the floor.." (take a moment to parse that) "Now CBC news has learned that the RCMP are also investigating his campaign finances. The reason is that some of Grewal's contributors...say they don't know where their money went."

Now, CBC's government journalists have never once asked the journalistic question -- even after a public enquiry -- of where hundreds of thousands of dollars in CASH came from (you can't withdraw that much from a bank) let alone where the recipts are. And CBC has always been completely diligent in dismissing the connection between millions and millions of missing and misappropriated dollars, and the Liberal Party; the responsibility was always somewhere vaguely off in the direction of a dismissing hand. But here is Terry Milewski, justifying his investigation into several small personal cheques made out to Grewal:

"The issue here is that the elections act has very strict rules about campaign donations. Everyone must get a recipt, and the act also makes it illegal for donations to be deposited anywhere but
in the campaign's account, or the riding association. The act also says that only the official agent can handle contributions, and that every one must be reported to Elections Canada. In Gurmant Grewal's campaign, we found five cases where these things don't seem to have happened".

Is is possible to die from a lack of irony?

Here's how Milewski ends his report, and again, parse the first sentence: "As the riding president Jim Holt said, these charges are part of what he called a political assassination attempt by the Liberals against Grewal. And it's true that some of those complaining did give money to the Liberals as well as the Conservatives, but neither Grewal nor any other Conservative is ready to give a full accounting of where the money went, and why these donations were not reported as required."


... but the people of Ontario or Quebec will never read this so it's business as usual.

   

Notwithstanding each of their peculiar areas of expertise, both of them would know two things before examining any analog to digital audio conversion:

1. Every digital recording format uses some form of compression algorithm. The compression "decides" which information is redundant and will not be missed. Examining the digital copy will show this missing information as an alteration to the source material, even though the digital version will play as completely sonically faithfull to the original. The "alterations" created in the conversion process are known as 'artifacts'. I'm sure Mr. Mitchell, if he has an ethical bone in his body, would have pointed that out to his Liberal "handlers". The fact the Liberals did not preface their release of supposed alterations with this vital information is not surprising. When, and, if Mr. Mitchell examines the original recording and passes verdict on it's authenticity, the Liberals MAY have a leg to stand on. Until then, all their doing is pulling the wool over the eyes of the gullible.

2. Recording direct to digital takes-up an incredible amount of storage space - something on the order of 30 Mb/second. Without some form of compression, you wouldn't get 30 seconds of audio onto a high capacity (800 Mb) CD. Even a pure digital recording produces some level of sonic inaccuracy (the aforementioned 'artifacting'). However, unless you examine the resulting data file at a binary level, it would be near impossible to tell where the artifacts were introduced, and you would need to 'alter' the file at a hexadecimal level to remove such artifacts (most of these artifacts are in fact inaudible, and thus irrelevant to the audio engineer or the intended listener). This is akin to examining a peanut-butter sandwich at a DNA level to determine where the peanuts MAY have come from.

The fact is, the Liberals hired one 'expert' to say the digital version was altered (DUH!!!). When this expert was allowed to examine the original (there is no mention that the Conservatives 'hired' him), and said there was no alteration, the Liberals round-up another 'expert' to contradict the statement of their first expert. And again, the second 'expert', Mr. Mitchell, has not examined the source material and until he does, his 'expertise' counts for less than a Liberal promise.

With apologies to P.T. Barnum:

You can fool all of the people some of the time.
Unless they're Liberal fanboys,
Then you can fool all of them, all of the time.

   

Of course, the reporter conveniently 'forgets' to mention a couple of things:

A. Canada Revenue has looked into this and concluded these were not contributions to a campaign and that no taxes are deemed as owing. Having had some 'experience' with the boys from RC, it strikes me that they will do anything possible to capture every last penny they deem as owing.
B. The two individuals who made these donations and complained they weren't claimed properly are well-known to have ties to a nearby Liberal riding. Both of them in fact are, or have been, employed by the Liberal MP from that riding. If the fact that two Liberals making 'contributions' to a Alliance/Conservative doesn't sound-off all kinds of alarms in your head, you need to pull it out of Paul Martin's ass.
C. The RCMP, at this point, have not started any investigation into why these two 'complainants' made contributions that, by their own admission, were made in an illegal fashion. That, too, should set the bells-a-ringing.

Gotta love it when Liberal fanboys shoot themselves in the foot, especially when that foot is still between their lips!

   

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