Imam threatens/warns Canada
Mustang1 @ Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:11 pm
Therein lies the problem – some people still harbour the erroneous notion that Jews are interlopers in Arab lands. They’re not. Israel is a legitimate sovereign state. Accept it and move on.
Proculation @ Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:26 pm
Well 'legitimate'... yeah..
But I prefer to see it as "They won so that's their land".
With help but they won.
ShepherdsDog @ Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:33 pm
With help but they won.
Dare I say God's help??
Proculation @ Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:38 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
With help but they won.
Dare I say God's help??
Dare I say God's help??
I dare you to say that
polemarch1 @ Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:02 pm
$1:
With help but they won.
The Americans helped the Israelis, the Soviets helped the Arabs. Where's the problem. As for God's help. Well that can be a mixed blessing
harzer_knaller @ Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:44 am
At first: the state of Israel should be there where it is! There's enough space for Israelis and Palaestinians (???)
And second: Why should muslims want a world like a thousand years ago?
With no cars, no electricity (and without all that comes with it) and especially no guns and rifles and pistols... I don't think that islamistis would destroy that weapons and technologies when they once have made their "caliphat" *lol*
They're just saying the western world is evil because they envy us in our freedom and technology, think about it, what important inventions of the last 500 years are from the arabian world? I don't know any...
And third: if any islamistic group will terrorize Canada or Germany I will find them and beat the hell out of them (at least I would try to *gg*)
Maybe the USA and all other supporters should leave Bosnia, Afghanistan and Iraq alone, no support and I mean no support, neither technological nor medical nor human hepl (like food and that stuff) then we will see how they can halp theirselves!!! (I'm sorry if that sounds racist, it's not meant so..)
So far from me!
btw @ all islamists... what about the freedom of all individums???
BartSimpson @ Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:23 am
SaladinAyyubid SaladinAyyubid:
hwacker hwacker:
$1:
"If you try to cross the line I can't guarantee what is going to happen. Our young people, we can't control,"
Where's the bus, lets round them up.
Do this and you seek the vengeance of the righteous.
Another fine quote brought to you courtesy of The Religion of Peace(tm).
Thanks for showing your true colours.
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BartSimpson @ Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:25 am
SaladinAyyubid SaladinAyyubid:
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
The imam said six or seven young men have approached him to discuss "fighting overseas" in place such as Iraq and Afghanistan.
If they are caught in Afghanistan, by Canadian troops they should be stripped of their citizenship or residency. For that matter, if a Moslem insurgency begins in Canada, Ellesmere Island sounds like a good place to establish a detaining facility, an outdoor one.
If they are caught in Afghanistan, by Canadian troops they should be stripped of their citizenship or residency. For that matter, if a Moslem insurgency begins in Canada, Ellesmere Island sounds like a good place to establish a detaining facility, an outdoor one.
Freeing the lands of the faithful is righteous in the eyes of Allah. You would ask your brothers and allies to do the same, would you not?, were your lands occupied by invaders. These men come to the aide of Muslims and it is not these men who do wrong things.
Bearing in mind that a fatwa has been issued that "the lands of the Faithful" includes everywhere that Muslims live now or have lived in the past then this means Canada is on that list of lands to be "freed".
BartSimpson @ Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:29 am
SaladinAyyubid SaladinAyyubid:
Proculation Proculation:
Then invade Israel, not us.
Israel is an invasion of the lands of the Arabs. I am not Arab but they are my brothers and their struggle is that of every faithful Muslim. It is my wish that the invaders leave in peace but leave is they must. The real Israel was destroyed by the infidel Romans and this invasion is a lie that steals the name of Israel. If I go to Montreal and call it France it is not France even if it was once. The Germans should take back their people where they belong. The Germans were the wrong ones but it is the Arabs that lose their lands and the Germans are gone of the Jews which is what they wanted? Why should the Germans not have to take their people back?
Hells bells. He makes an almost-decent point here. The purpose of the Holocaust was, indeed, to remove the Jews from Germany and after the war the Exodus took place except that many of the remaining Jews chose to leave Germany. That the Jews left Germany after the war is hardly something to blame Germany for.
This line of argument is a good example of the shades of reason being taught to the kids in the madrassahs.
BartSimpson @ Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:31 am
SaladinAyyubid SaladinAyyubid:
It is late and goodnight to you all. Salaam.
Translation: "I think I've crapped on you enough for one day."
BartSimpson @ Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:43 am
SaladinAyyubid SaladinAyyubid:
I came here on an airline plane in peace to be in peace and to give peace. If I came to Canada to make war I would expect Canada and her friends to give me war in return. Canadians who come to the lands of the faithful in peace receive peace as that is the law.
It would seem that you understand the laws of hospitality quite fine as they apply to guests in your country, but you need to remember that the law applies to YOU in the Canada that has extended the gracious hand of hospitality to you.
To write the lightly veiled threats that you do to your Canadian hosts is hateful to Allah, you apostate.
ShepherdsDog @ Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:27 am
CSIS denies imam's charge
Last Updated Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:32:11 EDT
CBC News
The Canadian Security Intelligence Service has hotly denied an allegation from a Muslim cleric that two of its agents roughed up a Muslim woman.
CSIS spokesperson John Dunn says the service has investigated Imam Aly Hindy's charge that security agents manhandled a young Muslim woman when her husband was out of their home.
The imam, well-known in the Toronto area for his criticism of CSIS, had distributed a flyer to worshippers at his mosque telling them they don't have to co-operate with CSIS agents.
Dunn said the allegation is completely unfounded, but noted that the investigation into the complaint can only go so far because Hindy refused to name the woman who made the complaint.
He challenged the imam to take his information to the Toronto police.
"Mr. Hindy is basically accusing CSIS of criminal actions,. It's quite a serious charge," said Dunn. "We've investigated internally and as a result we believe the charges to be entirely without foundation."
But Hindy says he believes the woman.
"I don't believe she is lying, she's a very religious woman," said Hindy.
Hindy's charges come days after 120 Canadian imams and other Islamic leaders signed a declaration condemning extremism and offering to help CSIS track down militants within their mosques.
The move followed two July attacks on London's transit system
Should CSIS proceed with criminal charges against these frivolous charges?
polemarch1 @ Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:48 am
How can they? Until Hindy identifies the woman or she comes forth all we have is his word for it.
polemarch1 @ Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:55 am
$1:
Prime Minister Paul Martin is to sit down today in Toronto to hold discussions with a group of Canadian Muslim leaders concerned about terrorism -- an event that is being lauded as a historic first, yet also demonstrates fissures developing in the community.
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Some fundamentalist Muslims who won't be attending are deriding these imams as puppets for speaking out against the London attacks but not being more vocal about the excesses of the U.S.-led war on terrorism.
"Nobody's told me [about the meeting]" said Aly Hindy, a controversial Muslim leader who complains that more moderate leaders have branded him a "troublemaker."
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Still, a minority of dissenters -- such as Mr. Hindy, a self-described fundamentalist -- have urged Muslims to give little or no co-operation to Canadian security agencies.
They complain that Muslims are being forced to speak out against the London attacks even as they are shouted down when they publicly voice unpopular opinions on subjects like the U.S.-led war against Iraq.
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Some fundamentalist Muslims who won't be attending are deriding these imams as puppets for speaking out against the London attacks but not being more vocal about the excesses of the U.S.-led war on terrorism.
"Nobody's told me [about the meeting]" said Aly Hindy, a controversial Muslim leader who complains that more moderate leaders have branded him a "troublemaker."
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Still, a minority of dissenters -- such as Mr. Hindy, a self-described fundamentalist -- have urged Muslims to give little or no co-operation to Canadian security agencies.
They complain that Muslims are being forced to speak out against the London attacks even as they are shouted down when they publicly voice unpopular opinions on subjects like the U.S.-led war against Iraq.
Martin to meet imams troubled by terrorism
Aly Hindy
Motorcycleboy @ Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:53 am
SaladinAyyubid SaladinAyyubid:
Israel is an invasion of the lands of the Arabs. I am not Arab but they are my brothers and their struggle is that of every faithful Muslim. It is my wish that the invaders leave in peace but leave is they must. The real Israel was destroyed by the infidel Romans and this invasion is a lie that steals the name of Israel. If I go to Montreal and call it France it is not France even if it was once.
You're absolutely right, Israel should return to it's previous owners. That would be the British, who took it from the Ottomans, who in turn took it from the Arabs, who took it from the Christians, who took it from the Romans, who took it from the Jews, who....were the first one's there.
The fact is Islam stole Israel from the west and the west's response was the crusades. Israel now belongs to it's rightful owners, the Jews.
The Arabs had a couple of chances to take it back, but unfortunately for them, Arab soldiers are much better at surrendering to CNN camera crews than they are at fighting, so they got their asses kicked everytime they tried.
Don't get me wrong, the Jihadi's are very good at killing. I mean, they can blow up buses full of innocent commuters or pizza parlours with the best of them. They're just not so good at taking on Marines in Falluja, that's all I'm saying.
Give Israel to the Arabs. What an EXCELLENT idea! Yeah Saladin, that's just what the world needs, another Arab country. I'm sure it would be a resounding success too. Just like all the others.