No Place for Canada - Afghanistan

despite what all you uniformed kids that want to just have you voice heard can stop wasting your breath because it makes no difference, the people in charge know we're doing what we should be doing and that's all that matters. let me ask you this, if canada was a unprivilaged country in control of terrorist that killed any civilian for any reason, and a world leader with the ability to help you didn't, would you be happy about that?? no you wouldn't, you see you have to get rid of your selfish attitudes, we're a world leader and we're finally using our status to be able to help other countries in need. you people that are against a military need to stop smoking whatever it is your smoking because to quote plato "only the dead have seen the end of war" canadians love their freedom, and we are very fortunate for sure, but remember, freedom isn't free, there are men and women standing on guard for it everyday, it'd be wise to not take that for granted. as for the U.S, I agree maybe what they're doing could be a little better strategized, but if you haven't forgotten, canada and the u.s are the worlds closests military alias, they'd never let us be harmed, and we'd never let them be harmed, it's a great military relationship, so the fact that we're in the trenches fighting alongside our nations brother doesn't mean we're evil killers, it means we'll use whatever force necessary to help out our friends in a time of need.
If you have enough balls to post messages concerning this, than maybe you should spend time researching how a military works and what we're doing, because than if you were to oppose it you'd be as bad as a terrorist. Killing is a bad thing, but it happens all the time, if you tell me that me killing a taliban member that is on route to kill a family of 5 because they wanted to be able to live free is a bad thing, than you have to look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself what kind of person you are. killing bad men in the name of a free world is essential, canadians are known for having one of the best militaries the world man for man, we are only limited in size but finally it looks like that is being taken care of for the future.

I'll leave you with a bible verse
Ezekiel 25:17
The path
of the righteous man is beset on
all sides by the inequities of the
selfish and the tyranny of evil
men. Blessed is he who, in the
name of charity and good will,
shepherds the weak through the
valley of darkness, for he is truly
his brother's keeper and the finder
of lost children. And I will
strike down upon thee with great
vengeance and furious anger those
who attempt to poison and destroy
my brothers. And you will know my
name is the Lord when I lay my
vengeance upon you

just to clarify, we are not fighting afghanistan, we are rebuilding the country while providing security in doing it, working with the afghanistan people, while the taliban tries to prevent us from doing it because they will lose power, and we will rid the world of the tyranny of evil men.
god bless freedom

everyone in the military knows the risk of the job, other canadians shouting their opinions on military personnel becoming KIA is just that, the opinion, I know it could happen to me but it's the choice I made, so public opinion on death tolls is irrelevant. You will not find a solider in Afghanistan that isn't happy about the mission, the difference is they know they're making a good difference in afghan's lives, to leave would be Canada throwing afghanistan back to the dog terrorists and saying "we don't care if they kill you". It would be the exact same if canada took it's small contingent that is in Iraq helping our closest military alia in their war. Canada is a very reliable and capable alia, and it will stay that way and that's why we will not leave until the job is done.

1. I forgot I had to proof read everything I wrote and make sure I don't miss one letter in a world, I guess not hitting the N button hard enough is a big deal to you, but I don't need to spell every word right in a internet forum to make me feel smart.
3. It's a bible verse, I believe it was written in the bible a few years before it was in pulp fiction. I'm sure every soldier knows that verse.
4.no one in here cares that you proof read everything.

Dont let it bother you, Grammar always suffers on posting boards

meaden24 meaden24:

Dont let it bother you, Grammar always suffers on posting boards

That's something we both can agree on.

it's "Don't" by the way

What is the aim of the operation?

NATO's role through ISAF is to assist the Government of Afghanistan and the international community in maintaining security within its area of operation. ISAF supports the Government of Afghanistan in expanding its authority throughout the country, and in providing a safe and secure environment conducive to free and fair elections, the spread of the rule of law, and the reconstruction of the country.

1. I forgot I had to proof read everything I wrote and make sure I don't miss one letter in a world, I guess not hitting the N button hard enough is a big deal to you, but I don't need to spell every word right in a internet forum to make me feel smart.

4.no one in here cares that you proof read everything.

what my brother in law tells me are the facts and he's pretty much lived there for the last couple of years. The Russians couldn't take them and they didn't have nearly as far to transport their equipment etc. I'm glad someone is telling the truth.

The arrival of antiaircraft systems is a significant case in point. At the start of the war, the Mujahideen possessed virtually nothing but small arms with which to combat Soviet aircraft. This weakness proved acute, as the Soviets began to exploit their air capabilities fully. Bombing assumed huge proportions and helicopters facilitated the rapid movement of troops and equipment, thereby compensating for the limited mobility of ground columns in mountainous defiles and valleys. Meanwhile, to prevent ambushes and to gain the initiative in combat, the Soviets learned to land troops along the commanding heights overlooking routes of movement. But by the midpoint of the war, if not sooner, reports from Afghanistan noted the employment not only of Swiss-made Oerlikon antiaircraft guns but British blowpipe and American Stinger antiaircraft missiles. The latter, especially, proved to be extremely lethal and forced the Soviets to operate with far more caution. Subsequently, Soviet Tu-16 intermediate-range bombers, as well as Su-24 and Su-25 attack aircraft, largely abandoned low-altitude bombing and had to release their ordnance from above 10,000 feet, with a significant corresponding loss of accuracy. In turn, Mi-24 and Mi-25 helicopter pilots could no longer linger over target areas but had to engage in quick runs and rely on nap-of-the-earth flying to avoid premature detection and destruction.22 The tactical consequences were no less dramatic for ground columns, which forfeited much of their air support and once again became more vulnerable to ambushes from the heights and ridges along the roads.

The foremost factor limiting the concentration of Soviet forces in Afghanistan was apparently political and, to a degree, self-imposed. When the Afghan War is viewed within the context of the Cold War, of which it became an undeniable part, it is apparent that the vast majority of the Soviet Army was committed to other theaters, especially Europe, where it stood toe to toe with the armies of NATO. For example, by an official Pentagon estimate of 1989, the Soviets maintained sixty-eight divisions between their western territories and the NATO frontier.33 These forces represented not only the mass of the Soviet Army but its best-trained and best-equipped formations as well. Moreover, this commitment to Europe must be measured not only in terms of divisions but economic costs. As became apparent shortly after the Afghan War and the dissolution of the Soviet Union that followed, the Soviet economy was under increasing strain during the 1980s. To sustain large forces in Europe, the Kremlin had to abstain from making great commitments elsewhere.

Ultimately, with no end to the war in sight, the Soviet Union began the systematic, phased withdrawal of its forces from Afghanistan in 1988. This decision, which marked a major policy reversal, became both possible and necessary as a result of the selection of Mikhail Gorbachev as general secretary of the Communist Party in 1985. Because his own prestige was not tied to the former Afghan policy, Gorbachev was able to orchestrate a gradual shift of the official Soviet position with minimal loss of face. In addition, Gorbachev recognized that the war was increasingly unpopular as well as economically burdensome on the home front and was a serious impediment to pursuit of his new policy of accommodation with the United States. Meanwhile, the fact that the DRA did not collapse immediately thereafter marginally camouflaged the Soviet defeat.

Every once and a while, we have some real and honest reporting in our media. Here is a good example of it...

http://torontosun.canoe.ca/News/Columni ... 64133.html

Bravo Eric! Our country needs more folks like you to speak the truth. Perhaps if we had more balanced and informative reporting rather than the typical flag-waving American rhetoric getting spewed to the gullible and uninformed public, we would have our government held accountable for their actions.

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meaden24 meaden24:

Dont let it bother you, Grammar always suffers on posting boards

That's something we both can agree on.

it's "Don't" by the way

Well its not my fault. In the truest Ultra-lib philisophy i wont take reponsibility for my grammer, i'll blame my teachers in grade school, my teachers in Jr and High school ill blame to city the province and the country. Furthermore i think we should do away with education because obviously the teachers out there are simply tools of the vast right wing conspiracy of George Bush's evil agenda to impose the American Value system upon the peoples of the world by teaching kids to spell in the conservative point of view.