Ok, so the reasons to allow abortion are if it threatens the life of the mother, and if the child is detected to be born with a major defect like cf, which is when it should be manditory.

Okay, first off Mr. research....

Thanks to advances in research and clinical care, growing numbers of children with CF are surviving into adulthood. In 1960, when the CCFF was founded, a child born with cystic fibrosis rarely lived four years. Today, half of all Canadians with CF are expected to live into their late-thirties and beyond and you want to kill them even before they get a chance.

Nice......you stupid conservative moron.

Who else would you like to euthanize? Blind people or perhaps the deaf?

Secondly, why is it in all your ranting you only place the onus on the female for being irresponsible and none on the father or did you fail basic biology?

Nearly lost amid the media buzz created by the major newsweeklies naming their various choices for "person of the century" was the fact that the 1900's saw as much infamy as progress To be sure, Time, Newsweek and U.S. News & World Report did not fail to note the rise and fall of the century's most conspicuous villains — Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot. But all characterized these, in general, as unfathomable anomalies of history rather than logical products of their times and places.
Who has launched the most thriving crusade against humankind? None other than the founder of Planned Parenthood, a woman who is frequently defended as a shining example of selfless sacrifice for the good of humanity.

Certainly Margaret Sanger, who died in her 80s in 1966, knew what it meant to be poor. One of 11 children born to poverty-stricken Irish-immigrant parents in Corning, N.Y, she rose to affluence when she dropped out of nursing school after only three months to marry a wealthy architect. She eventually settled in New York's Greenwich Village. There Sanger became closely associated with leading figures in the eugenics movement, many of whom played a prominent role in the foundation of Planned Parenthood.

The eugenics circle held that some races and individual members of the human species were genetically superior to others These superior members should be encouraged to reproduce, while the births of inferior members such as the poor or minorities were to be regulated. Their ultimate solution to the problem of poverty was simple: Eliminate the poor.

In the May 1919 edition of Sanger wrote, "More children from the fit, less from the unfit - that is the chief aim of birth control." The November 1921 edition declared, "Birth control: to create a race of thoroughbreds."

Sanger outlined her new philosophy in her 1922 book Pivot of Civilization. In it she sharply criticized philanthropists who provided free maternity care to poor mothers. According to Sanger, these acts of generosity "encourage the healthier and more normal sections of the world to shoulder the burden of unthinking and indiscriminate fecundity of others; which brings with it, as I think the reader must agree, a dead weight of human waste. Instead of decreasing and aiming to eliminate the stocks that are most detrimental to the future of the race and the world, it tends to render them to a menacing degree dominant. These are the words of a model liberal humanist?

The founder of Planned Parenthood saw contraception, sterilization and eventually abortion as the panacea for eliminating all human suffering. In Margaret Sanger: Father of Modern Society, author Elasah Drogin observed: "Through the 284 pages of Pivot of Civilization, there is not one word written about fair labor laws, fair housing requirements, a more equitable distribution of wealth, or even the simple responsibility of caring for one's neighbor."

Sanger's disdain for certain members of society was not confined to the poor, whom she often referred to as "human weeds." It targeted minorities such as blacks. In a private letter to Clarence Gamble dated Oct. 19, 1939, she revealed her ultimate goal toward blacks and how it could best be attained. "The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal," she wrote. "We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."

The following lines from Pivot of Civilization allow a particularly telling glimpse of Sanger's "compassion" and her motives. "Remember our motto: if we must have welfare, give it to the rich, not to the poor . ... We are paying for and even submitting to the dictates of an ever-increasing, unceasingly spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all."

Sanger's views naturally led her to strike out against the institution of marriage and the family. "The marriage bed," she wrote, "is the most degenerating influence in the social order." Sanger advocated instead a "voluntary association" between sexual partners. She thus sought to supplant the family as the most fundamental unit of society with relationships directed toward the sexual gratification of cooperating individuals.

How successful has been the campaign to reconstruct society launched by Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood, her life's cause? A few facts reveal the pervasive influence of Sanger's movement on humanity's course in the 20th century.

As a 1996 U.N. study predicted, by this year the United States, Canada, China, Japan and every country in Europe will have fallen below zero population growth. (Immigration helps boost the numbers in America.) Worldwide, at least 61 countries are failing to replace their populations.

Since the 1973 Roe v Wade abortion decision, an average of 1.5 million unborn babies have been aborted each year in the United States. Twenty-five percent of white women's pregnancies have ended in abortion, while 40% of minority pregnancies have been aborted. In 1990 more than 70% of the married women in the United States were using contraceptives.

Without exception, all the sad consequences of birth control that Pope Paul VI foresaw in his 1968 encyclical Humanae Vitae (Of Human Life) have come to pass.

Pope John Paul II is well aware of his predecessor's prophetic foresight when he calls the 20th century "a century of tears."

Can the 21st truly become a century of healing and wiping away tears? Tens of thousands of Americans who marched for life in Washington, D.C., this past Jan. 24 think that it can. So do countless mothers and fathers who still believe that a child is God's most precious gift. And since human history has become the history of salvation with Christ's birth, death and resurrection, there are certainly grounds for hope.

How Planned Parenthood Duped America

At a March 1925 international birth control gathering in New York City, a speaker warned of the menace posed by the "black" and "yellow" peril. The man was not a Nazi or Klansman; he was Dr. S. Adolphus Knopf, a member of Margaret Sanger's American Birth Control League (ABCL), which along with other groups eventually became known as Planned Parenthood.

Sanger's other colleagues included avowed and sophisticated racists. One, Lothrop Stoddard, was a Harvard graduate and the author of The Rising Tide of Color against White Supremacy. Stoddard was something of a Nazi enthusiast who described the eugenic practices of the Third Reich as "scientific" and "humanitarian." And Dr. Harry Laughlin, another Sanger associate and board member for her group, spoke of purifying America's human "breeding stock" and purging America's "bad strains." These "strains" included the "shiftless, ignorant, and worthless class of antisocial whites of the South."

Not to be outdone by her followers, Margaret Sanger spoke of sterilizing those she designated as "unfit," a plan she said would be the "salvation of American civilization.: And she also spike of those who were "irresponsible and reckless," among whom she included those " whose religious scruples prevent their exercising control over their numbers." She further contended that "there is no doubt in the minds of all thinking people that the procreation of this group should be stopped." That many Americans of African origin constituted a segment of Sanger considered "unfit" cannot be easily refuted.

While Planned Parenthood's current apologists try to place some distance between the eugenics and birth control movements, history definitively says otherwise. The eugenic theme figured prominently in the Birth Control Review, which Sanger founded in 1917. She published such articles as "Some Moral Aspects of Eugenics" (June 1920), "The Eugenic Conscience" (February 1921), "The purpose of Eugenics" (December 1924), "Birth Control and Positive Eugenics" (July 1925), "Birth Control: The True Eugenics" (August 1928), and many others.

These eugenic and racial origins are hardly what most people associate with the modern Planned Parenthood Federation of America (PPFA), which gave its Margaret Sanger award to the late Dr. Martin Luther King in 1966, and whose current president, Faye Wattleton, is black, a former nurse, and attractive.

Though once a social pariah group, routinely castigated by religious and government leaders, the PPFA is now an established, high-profile, well-funded organization with ample organizational and ideological support in high places of American society and government. Its statistics are accepted by major media and public health officials as "gospel"; its full-page ads appear in major newspapers; its spokespeople are called upon to give authoritative analyses of what America's family policies should be and to prescribe official answers that congressmen, state legislator and Supreme Court justiices all accept as "social orthodoxy."

Blaming Families

Sanger's obsession with eugenics can be traced back to her own family. One of 11 children, she wrote in the autobiographical book, My Fight for Birth Control, that "I associated poverty, toil, unemployment, drunkenness, cruelty, quarreling, fighting, debts, jails with large families." Just as important was the impression in her childhood of an inferior family status, exacerbated by the iconoclastic, "free-thinking" views of her father, whose "anti-Catholic attitudes did not make for his popularity" in a predominantly Irish community.

The fact that the wealthy families in her hometown of Corning, N.Y., had relatively few children, Sanger took as prima facie evidence of the impoverishing effect of larger families. The personal impact of this belief was heightened 1899, at the age of 48. Sanger was convinced that the "ordeals of motherhood" had caused the death of her mother. The lingering consumption (tuberculosis) that took her mother's life visited Sanger at the birth of her own first child on Nov. 18, 1905. The diagnosis forced her to seek refuge in the Adirondacks to strengthen her for the impending birth. Despite the precautions, the birth of baby Grant was "agonizing," the mere memory of which Sanger described as "mental torture" more than 25 years later. She once described the experience as a factor "to be reckoned with" in her zealous campaign for birth control.

From the beginning, Sanger advocacy of sex education reflected her interest in population control and birth prevention among the "unfit." Her first handbook, published for adolescents in 1915 and entitled, What Every Boy and Girl Should Know, featured a jarring afterword:

It is a vicious cycle; ignorance breeds poverty and poverty breeds ignorance. There is only one cure for both, and that is to stoop breeding these things. Stop bringing to birth children whose inheritance cannot be one of health or intelligence. Stop bringing into the world children whose parents cannot provide for them.

To Sanger, the ebbing away of moral and religious codes over sexual conduct was a natural consequence of the worthlessness of such codes in the individual's search for self-fulfillment. "Instead of laying down hard and fast rules of sexual conduct," Sanger wrote in her 1922 book Pivot of Civilization, "sex can be rendered effective and valuable only as it meets and satisfies the interests and demands of the pupil himself." Her attitude is appropriately described as libertinism, but sex knowledge was not the same as individual liberty, as her writings on procreation emphasized.

The second edition of Sanger's life story, An Autobiography, appeared in 1938. There Sanger described her first cross-country lecture tour in 1916. Her standard speech asserted seven conditions of life that "mandated" the use of birth control: the third was "when parents, though normal, had subnormal children"; the fourth, "when husband and wife were adolescent"; the fifth, "when the earning capacity of the father was inadequate." No right existed to exercise sex knowledge to advance procreation. Sanger described the fact that "anyone, no matter how ignorant, how diseased mentally or physically, how lacking in all knowledge of children, seemed to consider he or she had the right to become a parent."

Religious Bigotry

In the 1910's and 1920's, the entire social order–religion, law, politics, medicine, and the media–was arrayed against the idea and practice of birth control. This opposition began in 1873 when an overwhelmingly Protestant Congress passed, and a Protestant president signed into law, a bill that became known as the Comstock Law, named after its main proponent, Anthony Comstock. The U.S. Congress classified obscene writing, along with drugs, and devices and articles that prevented conception or caused abortion, under the same net of criminality and forbade their importation or mailing.

Sanger set out to have such legislation abolished or amended. Her initial efforts were directed at the Congress with the opening of a Washington, D.C., office of her American Birth Control League in 1926. Sanger wanted to amend section 211 of the U.S. criminal code to allow the interstate shipment and mailing of contraceptives among physicians, druggists and drug manufacturers.

I class myself as a Conservative and I support, financially, the present Conservative Party in Canada and Stephen Harper.

I haven't always been a Conservative, but I've never been a card carrying Liberal.

I have always been pro-choice. I have two children of my own.

Only a woman has the right to decide whether or not she should have an abortion. It is a matter between a woman and her doctor and should remain as such. It must be funded under public healthcare or we get into the dilemma of black market abortions and this ends up killing women. Killing women who are at best, the most vulnerable in our society.

So, I say keep your nose out of abortion decisions unless you are the one who must carry the child to term.

It's simple to prove if someone habitually offends. If someone has say, six rape convictions, then that persons previous criminal record is evident enought, and they should be put to death if found guilty of a seventh offense. Same goes for someone with six different convictions, such as someone convicted of armed roberry, auto theft, larceny, aggravated assault, possession of an illegal weapon, and possession with intent to sell, for instance. Anyone with six prison convictions.

Also, if there's enough proof that you killed someone, there should be enough proof to warrant the death penalty.