The PQ fight dirty

Pimpbrewski @ Fri May 20, 2005 7:46 am

Bouboumaster Bouboumaster:

No. Dumont is piece of shit.

Dumont will never gonna run the Quebec; The Quebeckers are in majority a population who are in the "left", and inthe "Middle". Dumont is toooo far in the "Right". Like Harper.

In the next election, I'm gonna vote for the NPD, and I invite everybody to vote the same.

For us (french canadian), it's the second best parti, after the bloc.

We don't want to vote for the jerks of liberal, and we really don't want the mofo of Harper too.

Hey hey, Boubou,

Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! do not generalize yourself with the rest of Quebecois ok. (Example: For us & We)

Charest (PLQ) was elected by Quebecois for a reason. Because the majority were tired of the PQ's ways of unfulfilled promises. They were deceitful from the very beginning.

And as far as Dumont, don't be so sure that he will never be in office. He's gonna get more seats in the next provincial election. You watch !!!!!!!! He has got a chance to get in office and govern this province.

deneb @ Fri May 20, 2005 7:51 am

Bouboumaster Bouboumaster:

No. Dumont is piece of shit.
Dumont is toooo far in the "Right". Like Harper.

get real!

Some quebecois consider everything that is less to left to be tooooo far to the right... :roll:

DerbyX @ Fri May 20, 2005 7:53 am

cock46;

Read the post again, as I'm not bitching about the US, just its leader and your ignorant ass. BTW, if bouchard is correct then the states aren't a real country either as states joined in much the same manner as provinces. A fuck like you who bitches day in and day out about Canada cannot possibly expect anything less back. Since were making juvenile flame shots I should point out that none of our provinces are actually debating replacing evolution with a single xtian fantasy in science classes. Since you obviously never bothered attending high-school you probably are not aware of anything taught in US schools let alone science class.

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MAPLELEAVES @ Fri May 20, 2005 7:58 am

Godz46 Godz46:

$1:

And if that's the role that our central government is increasingly taking then it a couple years we might as well all separate.

Let's hope so. Like Lucien Bouchard stated once...Canada isn't a real country.

I think a lot the academic types have called it a post modern state. I hate that word because it could mean anything.

I take it your in favour of an EU style system?

ridenrain @ Fri May 20, 2005 9:00 am

I don't know why you're blaming the Conservatives for this mess. They never handed over millions of dollars in bribes or organized big huggy-kissy train tours.
This has become such a goat rodeo for so long, I'm starting to agree with the Bloc. I want to get out too!

MAPLELEAVES @ Fri May 20, 2005 9:16 am

ridenrain ridenrain:

Conservatives, under Mulroney's leadership were one of most blatant when it came to patronage.

Scape @ Fri May 20, 2005 9:20 am

Godz46 Godz46:

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The Bloc are going to sweep Quebec as all a BLOC or PQ candidate has to do is show up at this point.

*GASP* The people of Quebec are going to exercide their political will! The gall!!!! We must prevent this! :roll:

Well if by political will in a federal framework means tearing the fucking country apart then yes, but that also qualifies as suicide. Get this, the BLOC sole intent is to run themselves out of a job. No wonder they are beloved. Hell, I'D VOTE FOR THEM if I knew they wouldn't destroy the country. IE what a waste of potential.

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There is plenty of problems on the federalist side ranging from corruption, inexperience, lack of coverage, infighting and traditional voting patterns. Be that as it may no other Provence has a federalist party. Part of the problems that are so loudly flaunted by the Bloc and PC and being exacerbated by the Bloc/PQ themselves by promoting regionalization

Godz46 Godz46:

Promoting regionalism huh? Sort of like the way Liberal MP's hawk Anti-Alberta crap day in and day out?

e.g. "The Alberta Rednecks", "The far west"

They day-to-day Ralph-Klein bashing that has been going on since 1993 despite the fact that he's been elected by the people of Alberta 3 times in a row? Would they do that Charest (Quebec) or Williams (Newfoundland)? I don't think so.

What about the NDP asking urbanites to protect them from the "White Trash rural folks"

Don't make laugh Scape.
Regionalism is played whenever a politician campaigns. Democrats attack the South , Republicans attack New England. The British Tories attack South England, Labor attacks North England. Its the same all over the world.

This point your making is a direct result of the very regionalization I have tried to point out in my original post. Klein has tried to take control of the Canada health act and run it how he sees fit. That is regionalization, you don't expect federalists to react from this? You support a confederacy, that is in conflict with a federalist platform. I fundamentally disagree with your line of thinking but I do not rule it out. However, the argument that ensues from that will promote regionalization once the talks break down or deadlock. This is the leadership by default that I reject in principal under regionalization.

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Separation will have profoundly long term negative consequences for our dollar, trade and our culture. Everyone knows this. That is why Quebec has never separated but it still is a valid option to present Quebec interests at the federalist table (the 'Brothers in arms' bit).

Godz46 Godz46:

Right....now why is it wrong when Quebecors come to the federal table and call on the Liberals to resign is out of the question? With 54 elected seats...would'nt that qualify as "Representation of Quebec's intrest"?

If they were a Federalist party you would have a point, they are not. Their vote is for the abyss.

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The people of Quebec have had hard time under federalism but they have also reaped rich rewards as well.

Godz46 Godz46:

I'm sorry but the Envelopes filled with cash only made it to a few Liberal party members.

I am sure Newfondland would love to get back that deal signed to Quebec Hydro. *cough*Churchill Falls*cough*

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Some extremist separatists say that Quebec can go it alone and all will be fine as trade will carry on, but that will never be the case in such an emotional break up. The federalist cause is flagging and there has been support on the Quebec side but it is in dire straits and needs a hand.

Godz46 Godz46:

And Who's fault is that?

He who is without sin may throw the 1st stone. Where do you live?

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Quebec needs to get behind something other than the BLOC for a while until the Federalists (and this included the Conservatives) can provide better opportunities for all of Canada.

Godz46 Godz46:

If you think Jack Layton's policies of sticking it to the Provinces and ignoring the Fiscal imbalance, and raising taxes, and disregarding Provincial jurisdiction on Education, Finance and Social Policies will play in Quebec, then you are dead wrong.

Bouboumaster Bouboumaster:

In the next election, I'm gonna vote for the NPD, and I invite everybody to vote the same.

DerbyX @ Fri May 20, 2005 10:11 am

Scape;

Eloquently Put!! [BB]

Damien @ Fri May 20, 2005 12:11 pm

Bouboumaster Bouboumaster:

$1:

Mario Dumont is the smartest, most charismatic, indealist in politcis today..I have no idea why you guys won't vote for him.

Something is wrong here, why do all pro leftwings always use unions prefabricated illness such as : "We, the people", "for us, french cananadians" or "the quebecois etc... Are you that afraid of your own opinions that you have to hide yourself behind our back ? Who are you to speak in OUR name ? Please tell me how can you just come here and like, lyspatriote, make us look like complete brainwashed dumbasses.

Si tu veux pas voter pour Dumont, ça te regarde. Mais ne va pas croire que les Québecois en ont pas ras le bol du PQ ou du PLQ. Dumont va être élu et le Québec va devenir l'une des provinces les plus puissantes du Canada, sinon la plus puissantes.

PluggyRug @ Fri May 20, 2005 12:48 pm

Is it true that Quebec is buying up all the Canadian Tire stores so when they separate they will have their own money?

Damien @ Fri May 20, 2005 12:55 pm

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

Is it true that Quebec is buying up all the Canadian Tire stores so when they separate they will have their own money?

So ?