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Believe me, as a person who was born and raised in Quebec , I can assure everyone that my first reaction to reading Godzilla's post was WTF?!?

The NDP (mistakenly, IMHO) supported Meech Lake. I'm not aware of Layton's views on Meech Lake, but even if he were against Meech it would not automatically make him a "centralist"!

Godz46 = Intellectual Whore.

   

Bien oui, mon grand, t'as le droit de rêver, mais Dumont ne sera jamais élu. Personne ne veut voter pour un malade mentale de la droite, à part les USA. Le PQ va écraser comme une merde l'ADQ. Et le PLQ du même coup. Quand à moi, LE seul politicien autre de ceux du PQ qui mériterait de gagner devrait être m. Philippe Couillard, ministre de la santé actuel.

   

If you want a correct response, I suggest you illicit a proper argument. Namely in English because I know you speak it perfectly well.

   

W.bush.esquire:

Use altavista babel fish to translate. Its not difficult.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

   

Shouldnt have to do that when the person speaks perfect English.

   

Its a canadian board and our french-canadian members should at least believe we are making the effort. Why not?

   

Not when the French Canadian members are seperatists. Or are you condoning the seperatists actions and fermenting their values on here?

   

I am only going to address this point because the rest of your post is verbal diarrhea and can no longer be bothered to sift the garbage.

I am implying nothing, your insinuating that I am implying and thus falsely speaking in my stead to once again try to erect a stick man argument that you can then crush. If you feel you must do this to make your argument appear at least somewhat balanced then clearly your POV is so radical it is to be ridiculed. I haven't the time! I am not going to try to convert you or change your extreme point of view as you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

I will say that 40-45 is a none of the above candidate. Read above, all they have to do is show up. That is not representation that is defacto leadership. You could have Ed the sock running for the PQ or Bloc and he would get elected. There are options on the table for a Quebec federalist to choose from not the least of which it to take control of the situation in to their own hands therein they can either align themselves with a current Federalist party, one that can represent all of Canada, or come up with their own counter to the PQ and Bloc parties.

The NDP and Greens would be a likely candidate as they are the most sympathetic to the socialist values that are popular in Quebec. Imagine if they were to be supported by Quebec. The NDP would have instead of 19 seats but 75-80 and probably way more from the massive political momentum. Canada would have the social change it has been screaming for and force the Conservatives to be real Conservatives and not a bunch of closet sellouts to the Americans. The Liberals would be forced to become more in tune with the demands of the voting public of ALL CANADIANS or become extinct. THAT could be done if we had a choice, one option that you are conspicuously not advocating at all as I strongly suspect your cheering for the demise of Canada in as rapid a fashion as possible because you hate it.

   

Loin de là.
Franchement, les deux tiers du Québec votent PQ et PLQ ? C'est pas parce qu'ils sont de la gauche l'ami, mais détrompe toi, c'est simplement que les 2 tiers de la province sont encore au stade à se demander si le Québec doit ou pas demeurer au sein du Canada. Tu le sais aussi bien que moi et ça ne nécessite pourtant pas un effort de déduction incroyable. Mais encore une fois tu semble t'approprier un pouvoir que tu ne détiens tout simplement pas en affirmant que " Personne ne veut voter pour un malade mentale de la droite." Tu omets volontairement 20% de la population du Québec, sans compter qu'un nombre non négligeable de Péquistes et de Libéralistes sont de droite.



Tout le monde a ses opinions, malgré que je ne suporte pas, moi non plus, la peine capitale.




Je crois malheureusement ici que c'est toi qui rêve l'ami.

   

DerbyX, your effort is well appreciated, don't listen to them.

   

I appreciate your good intent but translation with babelfish does some butchery on your original text and makes it not very easy to follow. Instead, you can try to write directly in French, this cannot be worse than by using babelfish.

I use such tools to retranslate my posts in French, only to check if I do big mistakes.

   

There is a big difference between "condoning the seperatists actions" and writing in French, which is actually one of the official languages of this country.

   

I think if you read some of my posts on the seperatists thread you would very very quickly retract that. The seperatists DO NOT consider themselves french-canadians but quebecois! Many french-canadians aren't seperatists. If you have done any world travelling you'll know that trying to speak at least some of the lauguage counts for a great deal.

Quebecspock;

alas I have tried to learn french. I took it in highschool and even a course in Uni. I am a very science minded (right brain I think) person and since lauguage is controlled by the side that controls art it never seems to stick.

h�las j'ai essay� d'apprendre le fran�ais. Je l'ai pris dans le highschool et m�me un cours d'Uni. Je suis tr�s (cerveau droit que je pense) une personne occup�e par science et puisque le lauguage est command� par le c�t� que l'art de commandes il ne semble jamais coller.

I kinda figured babelfish butcher it!

J'ai un peu figur� le boucher de babelfish il

   

My former English teacher said that the only way to learn and master a new language is ... to keep practicing! This is some usual language teacher propaganda, but ... this is effectively true. That's why I'm posting here instead of in a francophone forum.



No, it's true butchery (the choice of word is good)! It's much harder to read you when babelfish has butchered your original text. I've no problem at reading a French text containing many mistakes made by a person (as I'm expecting your comprehension about my own English mistakes ), but I hate reading a French text containing many mistakes made by a computer algorithm...

   

wow this was almost a good post. but we always se canadains vs nationalist.

l'etoile du match va à godz mais il doit ce confontrer a 1 penalité due à son vote de confiance à l'ADQ



layton is just a lunatic with is " Le Npd est le bon choix pour tout les canadien et canadienne, lair pur et blablabla" hahaha a quebecer that think that the npd can get a least 3 seat in quebec is officialy a lunatic.

npd: the biggest joke of quebec

he tell that he really see a distinc society that canadians should respect its. and after he vote for the undemocratic-communist laws : C-20 made by the liberal....

we people of canada ( pueblo de canada!) just dont give a try to harper a TEST his MODERATE right politk in the next minority governement.

and wtf with john (john hahaha) charest. the population of quebec did vote with 60% participation. make the calcul with thos global voter and the liberal voter and there you get the number of person that did vote liberal.


ha, at the end, this week i did convince to my sociolog that geeting canadians "fonctionnaire" in chile was the worst thing that chilan can get. he was scared to all those history of bad use of money b otawa....

wine rulz and cheap!!!!! et les nordique en osti qui runnais un show euxi!

bon je retourne ecouté En attendant des cowboys fringants

and p.s , asiatic with a quebecer french accents are really sexy

   

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