Union Cash Flowing Into Province To Fund Student Groups
Lemmy @ Wed May 23, 2012 7:37 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
$1:
I wished them all an under-cooked steak.
I noticed that you corrected this little faux-pas. I was wondering what the fuck is an under cooked steak? Not possible.
I was on a partial tirade, but I quickly came back to my senses.
Thanos @ Wed May 23, 2012 7:40 pm
I'm fairly safe in saying that the trade union guys I know wouldn't be caught dead contributing any of their own money to support those toolboxes in Quebec. Like Lemmy said it's the local executives, the same well-connected gyppos who attend all the big yearly NDP rallies and meetings, who make these decisions and according to their own rules they probably don't have to poll the membership either to get approval for it.
ShepherdsDog @ Wed May 23, 2012 7:45 pm
Just proves that a union executive is no different than any other kind of corporate executive. They like to play with other people's money like it's their own.
Unsound @ Wed May 23, 2012 8:19 pm
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
Your crack equating support of unions with support of rioters is a real gem, right up there with the one that says if you vote democrat youre supporting terrorism, or if you support online privacy youre supporting child porn. Way to go.
We call this Toewsing.
OnTheIce @ Thu May 24, 2012 6:18 am
Lemmy Lemmy:
I believe that ability and effort, not income, should determine who gets to go to university. But the post secondary system is already so heavily subsidized that I don't really understand the students' beef. The costs of running a university have skyrocketed as technology has developed. 20 years ago, you couldn't much tell a university chemistry lab from a highschool lab. Walk into one today.
Of course it's expensive. It's always been expensive to be a student. But expensive doesn't mean unaffordable. There's no need for students to be piling up the debts they are. Those debts are coming from their spending on lifestyle choices, not on tuition. "Starving student" isn't a brand new term. The entitled youth we have today need to suck it up, grow up, and decide whether they really want to make the sacrifices most of us made to go to university.
Of course it's expensive. It's always been expensive to be a student. But expensive doesn't mean unaffordable. There's no need for students to be piling up the debts they are. Those debts are coming from their spending on lifestyle choices, not on tuition. "Starving student" isn't a brand new term. The entitled youth we have today need to suck it up, grow up, and decide whether they really want to make the sacrifices most of us made to go to university.
Wow! It's nice to hear some common sense on the issue!
PimpBrewski123 @ Fri May 25, 2012 12:16 pm
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
PimpBrewski123 PimpBrewski123:
It seems somewhat ironic that you only quoted one sentence out of the entire post. Again, these students are no employees. Notice the word ''usually'', perhaps it should have been stated a different way such as unions dues ''should'' go towards helping those same employees contributing, ex: a steel mill employee is probably thrilled that his contribution goes to a cause that he/she does not support.
Ok so let’s have a little fun. So you by supporting unions, you also support the radicals, anarchists, the black bloc and so on. You also support the fact that people can cause damage to public property, throw themselves in front of cars, put smoke bombs in the subway and there are no consequences. All these other people are also taking part of the protests funded by unions. Students do not govern, the government does.
As I said in an earlier post, I couls see the steelworker being oisse if that was the case (I dont know that it.is...the only unions Ive seen mentioned by name are teachers unions who would he sympathtic to students cause).
Your crack equating support of unions with support of rioters is a real gem, right up there with the one that says if you vote democrat youre supporting terrorism, or if you support online privacy youre supporting child porn. Way to go.
Ok then read between the lines. That was sarcasm eh !
Still, the point is that students are not unionized, somehow you seem to have purposely omitted to comment on that.
The big unions (FTQ, CSN, CSQ) are running the province to the ground. They are all about power and do not care about the interest of their members but only their own.
andyt @ Fri May 25, 2012 12:20 pm
PimpBrewski123 PimpBrewski123:
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
PimpBrewski123 PimpBrewski123:
It seems somewhat ironic that you only quoted one sentence out of the entire post. Again, these students are no employees. Notice the word ''usually'', perhaps it should have been stated a different way such as unions dues ''should'' go towards helping those same employees contributing, ex: a steel mill employee is probably thrilled that his contribution goes to a cause that he/she does not support.
Ok so let’s have a little fun. So you by supporting unions, you also support the radicals, anarchists, the black bloc and so on. You also support the fact that people can cause damage to public property, throw themselves in front of cars, put smoke bombs in the subway and there are no consequences. All these other people are also taking part of the protests funded by unions. Students do not govern, the government does.
As I said in an earlier post, I couls see the steelworker being oisse if that was the case (I dont know that it.is...the only unions Ive seen mentioned by name are teachers unions who would he sympathtic to students cause).
Your crack equating support of unions with support of rioters is a real gem, right up there with the one that says if you vote democrat youre supporting terrorism, or if you support online privacy youre supporting child porn. Way to go.
Ok then read between the lines. That was sarcasm eh
Actually it was Toewsing.