We need to recognize B.C. as a nation within Canada
Firecat @ Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:29 am
ziggy ziggy:
Firecat Firecat:
We've seen this bit of stupidity about "If Quebec is a nation then why isn't B.C." It's been answered.
Alberta was fine being supported by the rest of Canada until they found oil. Quebec contributes more to the rest of Canada than the other way around. Cabada needs the access to the Atlantic and all the resources we mine out of Quebec. And anyone who advocates they just "leave" is espousing a separatist position and are therefore traitors. No wonder westerners are thought to be idiots. This has been explained repeatedly but they're just too stupid to understand that. Too busy worrying someone else might get something they don't have.
Alberta was fine being supported by the rest of Canada until they found oil. Quebec contributes more to the rest of Canada than the other way around. Cabada needs the access to the Atlantic and all the resources we mine out of Quebec. And anyone who advocates they just "leave" is espousing a separatist position and are therefore traitors. No wonder westerners are thought to be idiots. This has been explained repeatedly but they're just too stupid to understand that. Too busy worrying someone else might get something they don't have.
Which resources are we mining out of quebec that we cant find elsewhere? Poutine?
And what is "Cabada"?
It's a typo. you see, the "b" is right next to the "n" key. if you think really hard about it you might infer the word was intended to be "Canada." Hope that helps.
canadian1971 @ Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:38 am
Ok....we all know it was Ziggy who farted......
$1:
No,it's "MY GAS MY GAS"! get it right....
and quite proud of it too.
Firecat @ Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:38 am
canadian1971 canadian1971:
Firecat Firecat:
Special how? What special status goes with recognizing the obvious[/B] (that Quebec is different from the other provinces) - that like the First Nations, Quebecers constitute a nation within Canada?[B]
And all these "other" provinces are exactly alike are they? My point is that every fucking province in the country is different from every other province in the country. That to me is pretty obvious. It is not just Quebec that is different despite what you may think. Therefore, No special status for any province of the country. We are all equal partners in Confederation.....theoretically.
OK Let's see. All provinces whose laws are based on La Code Civile, raise your hand. OK anyone whose justice system is fundamentally different than your neighbouring province?
How about every province whose official language is different from your neighbours?
Hmmmmmmmm
So how exactly are the other provinces different in any way that is pertinent to nationhood ?
Scape @ Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:40 am
Dam, I was thinking we were going to adopt Klingon as the third official language. Then we could be a nation within a nation of a nation. The new vision of Cabada.
Canadaka @ Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:48 am
BC is not a nation, Quebec is not a nation.
The Québécois can be recognized as a "nation" as a distinct peoples. But I don't consider BC people to be a seperate people from Canada.
Just like there are various Native Nations in Canada, they are not a province or there own political entity, its just a recognition of there heritage is distinct.
And I agree, its Canada;s oil, and strongly belive in "all for one and one for all".
ziggy @ Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:58 am
canadian1971 canadian1971:
Ok....we all know it was Ziggy who farted......
and quite proud of it too.
$1:
No,it's "MY GAS MY GAS"! get it right....
and quite proud of it too.
When I hear people talking about Alberta oil I just shake my head at how some people can be so ignorant about Alberta's energy industry. If they knew so much about Alberta oil they would know that gas is the big ticket here.
Seems all some want is the royalty money from the energy industry here.No wonder Alberta is such a hotbed for seperatist activity.
Maybe we should become a nation also.The nation of OILBERTA.
Proculation @ Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:10 am
Canadaka Canadaka:
BC is not a nation, Quebec is not a nation.
The Québécois can be recognized as a "nation" as a distinct peoples. But I don't consider BC people to be a seperate people from Canada.
Just like there are various Native Nations in Canada, they are not a province or there own political entity, its just a recognition of there heritage is distinct.
And I agree, its Canada;s oil, and strongly belive in "all for one and one for all".
The Québécois can be recognized as a "nation" as a distinct peoples. But I don't consider BC people to be a seperate people from Canada.
Just like there are various Native Nations in Canada, they are not a province or there own political entity, its just a recognition of there heritage is distinct.
And I agree, its Canada;s oil, and strongly belive in "all for one and one for all".
Exactly. That's what Harper recognized: Le peuple Québécois est une nation dans un canada uni. But, Quebec is not a different nation (state). It's a province within Canada with a majority of people, the Québécois, considered a nation.
I don't understand how it can hurt some in the ROC. I think it's just a misunderstanding of what IS the nation.
business1 @ Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:15 pm
just to put my 2cents in there I agree BC is in a class by it's self.
business1 @ Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:15 pm
just to put my 2cents in there I agree BC is in a class by it's self.
Clogeroo @ Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:40 pm
$1:
How about every province whose official language is different from your neighbours?
Well I speak English I'm not sure what those below us are speaking.
$1:
na·tion /ˈneɪʃən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ney-shuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a large body of people, associated with a particular territory, that is sufficiently conscious of its unity to seek or to possess a government peculiarly its own: The president spoke to the nation about the new tax.
2. the territory or country itself: the nations of Central America.
3. a member tribe of an American Indian confederation.
4. an aggregation of persons of the same ethnic family, often speaking the same language or cognate languages.
–noun
1. a large body of people, associated with a particular territory, that is sufficiently conscious of its unity to seek or to possess a government peculiarly its own: The president spoke to the nation about the new tax.
2. the territory or country itself: the nations of Central America.
3. a member tribe of an American Indian confederation.
4. an aggregation of persons of the same ethnic family, often speaking the same language or cognate languages.
British Columbia is a large body of people that possesses relative sovereignty or control over its affairs and has many people wanting more control associated within its territory of mostly European origins speaking primarily English. I think we could be considered a nation if we really wanted to be.
ridenrain @ Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:52 pm
business1 business1:
just to put my 2cents in there I agree BC is in a class by it's self.
3
Hey... you did that twice. That's 4 cents!
If you fill out a form from Ottawa (bureaucracy's the #1 export from the east) you can get a refund of 1/2 a cent, at a cost to the government of $8.00.
SJ-24 @ Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:22 pm
Canadaka Canadaka:
BC is not a nation, Quebec is not a nation.
The Québécois can be recognized as a "nation" as a distinct peoples. But I don't consider BC people to be a seperate people from Canada.
Just like there are various Native Nations in Canada, they are not a province or there own political entity, its just a recognition of there heritage is distinct.
And I agree, its Canada;s oil, and strongly belive in "all for one and one for all".
The Québécois can be recognized as a "nation" as a distinct peoples. But I don't consider BC people to be a seperate people from Canada.
Just like there are various Native Nations in Canada, they are not a province or there own political entity, its just a recognition of there heritage is distinct.
And I agree, its Canada;s oil, and strongly belive in "all for one and one for all".
Well, do we? We in BC see ourselves as the blacksheep of this country. We have our own way of living and our own way of thinking. We are socialist only as far as taking care of education, healthcare, and Marijuana Grow-ops.
We are above all people who really want to be left alone by Ottawa and let us have our own laws that make sense for this province. What happens in Toronto is purely a problem of Toronto's. Why drag us into your hell.
So when I hear people like yourself talk as if all for one and one for all, I just got to ask myself. if something coming from the ground means it belongs to the "collective" then where in hell is my maple syrup? Quebec owes us a few million gallons of that yellow gold from the last 134 years and we want our share.
RUEZ @ Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:34 pm
Canadaka Canadaka:
And I agree, its Canada;s oil, and strongly belive in "all for one and one for all".
Does this mean that BC forests belong to all of Canada, and BC's minerals belong to all of Canada? No I didn't think so. Maybe BC should get a cut of all those diamond mines in the NWT?
Delwin @ Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:35 pm
SJ-24 SJ-24:
Canadaka Canadaka:
BC is not a nation, Quebec is not a nation.
The Québécois can be recognized as a "nation" as a distinct peoples. But I don't consider BC people to be a seperate people from Canada.
Just like there are various Native Nations in Canada, they are not a province or there own political entity, its just a recognition of there heritage is distinct.
And I agree, its Canada;s oil, and strongly belive in "all for one and one for all".
The Québécois can be recognized as a "nation" as a distinct peoples. But I don't consider BC people to be a seperate people from Canada.
Just like there are various Native Nations in Canada, they are not a province or there own political entity, its just a recognition of there heritage is distinct.
And I agree, its Canada;s oil, and strongly belive in "all for one and one for all".
Well, do we? We in BC see ourselves as the blacksheep of this country. We have our own way of living and our own way of thinking. We are socialist only as far as taking care of education, healthcare, and Marijuana Grow-ops.
We are above all people who really want to be left alone by Ottawa and let us have our own laws that make sense for this province. What happens in Toronto is purely a problem of Toronto's. Why drag us into your hell.So when I hear people like yourself talk as if all for one and one for all, I just got to ask myself. if something coming from the ground means it belongs to the "collective" then where in hell is my maple syrup? Quebec owes us a few million gallons of that yellow gold from the last 134 years and we want our share.
RUEZ @ Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:39 pm
Delwin Delwin:
SJ-24 SJ-24:
Canadaka Canadaka:
BC is not a nation, Quebec is not a nation.
The Québécois can be recognized as a "nation" as a distinct peoples. But I don't consider BC people to be a seperate people from Canada.
Just like there are various Native Nations in Canada, they are not a province or there own political entity, its just a recognition of there heritage is distinct.
And I agree, its Canada;s oil, and strongly belive in "all for one and one for all".
The Québécois can be recognized as a "nation" as a distinct peoples. But I don't consider BC people to be a seperate people from Canada.
Just like there are various Native Nations in Canada, they are not a province or there own political entity, its just a recognition of there heritage is distinct.
And I agree, its Canada;s oil, and strongly belive in "all for one and one for all".
Well, do we? We in BC see ourselves as the blacksheep of this country. We have our own way of living and our own way of thinking. We are socialist only as far as taking care of education, healthcare, and Marijuana Grow-ops.
We are above all people who really want to be left alone by Ottawa and let us have our own laws that make sense for this province. What happens in Toronto is purely a problem of Toronto's. Why drag us into your hell.So when I hear people like yourself talk as if all for one and one for all, I just got to ask myself. if something coming from the ground means it belongs to the "collective" then where in hell is my maple syrup? Quebec owes us a few million gallons of that yellow gold from the last 134 years and we want our share.