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Yes please attack those who believe in Christ whislt forcing them to marry Gays whom they deem sinners. Unlike most people I don't force my Ethos down others throats. I believe in freedom and choice, and I agree with Harper-Religion founded this country it is the basis for most of our "Laws" am I a Holy Roller no, but I respect someones right to be one. The same can't be said for the Gay community, same sex union wasn't enough for them perhaps they will end up with nothing if their "Special Interest" is deemed unexceptable by the religious Zealots and they start to Lobby they are far more powerful the the Gay rights Movement.

   

What are you even talking about?

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Just to point out here it is the CONSERVATIVES that are bringing this back up again. NOT the gay rights people. Get your facts straight.

   

Thats a fine line actually....I would have to assume that a private company has the right to do business with who they please. It would be for them to suffer the consequences if bad publicity came from it....mind you how you react to someone refusing business to a black person because of something they beleive in? Would it be any different if it was a muslim? or a Jew?

Where is the line drawn? Is there even a line to be crossed? I think it comes down to what we as a society determine is acceptable for private establishments. The more I think about it, the more unacceptable it would appear.

   

Really? I thought the Globe and Mail brought it up with thier article. Hmm

   

...funny I wasnt talking to you.... if you actually read what I responded to, you might be able to figure it out.

   

Doesn't matter, I've allready said I'll post when I want and what I want. Much like Iceowl, I'm in yo face.

   

lol Ouch! Ya, you got me good....I'll be feelin it for days

   

i agree

   

According to law this wouldn't be legal. Just like it wouldn't be legal if someone wasn't willing to print out Christian lit, serve blacks, or even make them sit in the back of the bus. If you want to bring society to a crashing halt you can try to push it. I really have no problem having the ability to throw this stuff right back in the Christianists face. They've gotten away from Christ and should be destroyed along with the rest of religious zealotry. Religious wars have waged for centuries. Do we want to go back to the hugonots?

   

What would happen If I refuse to print something for a Black person because my religion is against them, then would it be ok for me to refuse service?

This hole black issue is just to show you how ridiculous the hole argument is.

   

Those lefty idiot Lieberals passed a Law that ensures any religion does NOT have the right to say I cannot marry you. It also states that all businesses cannot refuse to do business with any potential customer.

Those communist bastard Human Rights Commisioners have already fined and threatened a business in Toronto and a Catholic Church in Vancouver.

Justices of the Peace are under the same law .

You see folks those lefty communist medias will not publish or broadcast these discriminatory laws passed by the Fiberals and will not inform the public about what these idiot laws have done to a religion and a business.

Access to information finally revealed these two stories which are true.

So if you support Lieberals then you support discrimination, racism and bigotry. The evidence is there if you want to read or hear it.

   

Where the hell does it force religions to marry couples?

   

There is really no way to avoid infringing on someones right's in this issue.

On the one hand, gays should have the right to not be discriminated against based on sexual orientation, according to the charter.

On the other hand, Religious groups have the right to not be forced to perform religious cerimonies which are contrary to their religious beliefs, based on the freedom of religion clause in the charter.

Now, let's take the example that eventually, there will be a gay couple who consider themselves Christian; According to the charter; they have the right to not be discriminated against, and should have the right to their religion, even if other members of their religion do not feel they qualify. However, in not allowing a priest/minister to dicriminate, his rights will be infringed upon.

So does one's right to not be disciminated against, supercede another's right to their religion, when one's own religious right's are also being infringed upon?

Very tricky.

   

In this context actually, that's an easy question. To be a member of a religion requires certain beliefs. If this gay couple is Christian, then all they have to do is find or found their own religion and voila! A homosexual Catholic knows that he is basically shit out of luck, options being Religious Orders and the single life. Yet there are still many homosexual Catholics who choose to abide by the tenets of their faith. It's all about choice. Everybody is free to speak their mind, their opinion, without fear of reprisal.

Private business has the right to refuse service to anyone, anytime, anywhere. What happened in BC with the KofC was bullshit and everyone knows it. The Knights even went out of their way to find and pay for alternate arrangements, to print out new invitations and give the couple a gift. Yet they still sued. Well, it's a private hall and the Knights should be allowed to decide who gets to rent it. That's basically the definition of private property. By the lesbian couples line of reasoning, I should be able to go into their home and make myself a sandwich because to not do so is against my basic human right to food and shelter. If they tried to bar my access, I could sue, couldn't I?

   

Apples and oranges,

Since were talking about religous beliefs, if you can find a religon that has something against black people you may have a point, but I think there are none... so that comparison is moot and invalid.

Its funny (well not really) how people demand religous people to be tolerant and bend their rules of their bibles but in the same breath people are so intolerant of other peoples religous beliefs. Especially Christianity in this country. Its been around for hundreds of years and helped shaped our fine country for what it is today.

Now all of sudden people want it gone, some of you should understand that religon for some people is really important. It helps them live a good life but your telling them to get over it and DEMAND that they ignore that part of their beliefs because you know better ? How tolerant of you.

I worked as a bartender in a restaurant, I was responsible according to restaurant policy who was served at my bar and who wasn't. Theres alot of bums that basically woop it up there in the same area. Every once and while I would get some first thing in the morning wanting to drink some beer at 11 o'clock in the morning. Our policy was no riff-raff, so I would refuse to serve them and give them directions to the appropiate watering hole were they would be served.

If I follow you logic I shouldn't be allowed to not serve them fine, when you come for lunch with your family I'd get the hostess to sit you and your family next to their table.

   

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