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In your mind what would be the root cause?

   

How does one nut manage to drop five armed and well trained cops and subsequently vanish unscathed?

   

Which one was that?

   

The first cop didn't know what was coming. The others maybe didn't know the details either, ie that he's targeting cops and shooting from an ambush. The probably rushed in to try to arrest somebody they thought was involved in a civilian shooting. Also, I don't think cops carry assault rifles here, do they? So they probably went up against him with just their sidearms - brave guys. Does Moncton even have a tactical team? Anyway, my guess is that even if they do it wasn't deployed right away, and it can't be everywhere. Usually these sorts of nuts hole up in a house somewhere.

Goes to show how ineffective carrying a gun can be against somebody who's determined to shoot first and shoots from ambush, when you don't know it's coming.

As for him vanishing, maybe he knows the area, knows the hideyholes. He's not just wandering around on the streets. Maybe he had change of clothes stashed. This doesn't seem to be a case of a guy just suddenly losing it - he planned this out.

   

I doubt that there is one (1) RCMP officer in the country that would support your view on this subject at the current moment.

As far as being an "anti gun nut", here is my personal belief: Professionals (military, police and properly certified security personnel) need to be armed and need sophisticated arms. People living in the North, isolated areas need firearms for protection from bears, etc. They do not need Uzis, A-47s or Glocks to do that. Farmers, hunters should be allowed to have their long guns. As has been pointed out, over and over, they are most certainly not the problem. Hunters, however, don't need AK-47s to hunt deer. If you have to squeeze off 20 rounds to bring down a deer, your are no efffing good at it and you are a danger to all of us (and you are likely a butcher on top of it) Glocks have no value to hunters or farmers.

As for your shot at my "juvenile anti- Americanism" , this kind of automatic firearm ownership is anti-Canadian. It has never been a part of our culture or history ... ever except during wartime and strictly for military use. It is not acceptable in this country. There is a consensus that we don't want it here. There is a freaky fringe that wants us all armed. They are outsiders ... marginal and usually foreign. If you think that the rest of us are wrong about this, I would suggest to you that you may be living in the wrong country.

   

The video posted showed two of the officers in cover behind cruisers with guns drawn before the shooting started.

They didn't appear to be sleepwalking through it or unprepared.

   

And that shows that you are actually an anti-gun nut. Uzis, AK-47s and automatic weapons are all illegal in Canada. So are 20 round clips. Automatic weapons and Uzis are also illegal in the US. FUD.

And the standard issue RCMP sidearm is a Glock 9mm. And Glocks are indeed useless against a Bear, but a Python is quite effective.

   

I certainly didn't say they were sleepwalking. Are these the cops that got shot, then it should show you your answer. Otherwise it's different cops and we don't know what the circumstances of them getting shot were.

   

... and the Mounties should have their Glocks. Hobbyists don't need them. So, how would pointing out what are acceptable Canadian standards make me an "anti gun nut"?

My Sea Cadet 15 year old daughter is learning how to shoot. I think that it is a good idea. My 11 year old should also learn in a few years. It is an important life skill to know how to handle firearms properly ... up there with swimming. I used to be a competitive shooter (rifles). Some "anti gun nut", eh? As I said, foreign ideals creeping into our culture. No thank you.

   

Well said. Although the freaky fringe seems to be getting larger or more vocal. We always seem to want to copy what they do in the states, just 20 years later.

   

Oh, no, you didn't go there, did you? Here comes DD with his swimming pools. You're obviously right, swimming lessons are self-defense lessons.

   

The freak fringe seems to be growing because of the part of the country that you live in. Perhaps values are diverging East-to West. There is the historic phenomenon that Alberta was settled, to a large part, from the United States and that those settlers brought different values with them than the usual "British Empire" culture of the East.

   

So, how can you reconcile that it's a good idea that your daughter learns to shoot; but hobbyists don't need guns? Is your daughter enlisted or likely to enlist in the Military? Are we also going to remove shooting events from Olympics? Give them all slingshots perhaps? How many gun rampages did you go on, after being a competitive shooter? Inquiring non-sequitrs want to know!

Gun culture is hardly the pejorative of our southern cousins. We are a nation built on the wilderness, where owning a gun meant your survival. I love going into Cabellas or my local gun shop on a weekend and seeing a line up to purchase firearms so long that people have to take a number. And yet, gun crime continues to decline.

And using FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) as your argument shows that you are not arguing from a perspective of truth or facts, but only want to inject emotion into the argument in order to sway the reader. Only nutters (for or against) do that.

   

Where did he say hobbyists don't need guns?

I don't think civilians need handguns or semi-automatic weapons. But hell, even our current laws that allow those are pretty decent. Most of our problem, ie criminal weapons come from south of the border. Still be better if they weren't available to be stolen here.

   

Same as always

They ask me why and I tell them just because
Ain't no reason why the rain falls when it does.

People will connect the dots to make the shape that they want to see.

My condolences to the families of the fallen cops.

   

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