Canada Kicks Ass
Assault on Reason

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sasquatch2 @ Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:52 pm

Title of Al Gore's new book......

He comes up with such great titles.........

$1:
"Why do reason, logic and truth seem to play a sharply diminished role in the way America now makes important decisions?" The persistent and sustained reliance on falsehoods as the basis of policy, even in the face of massive and well-understood evidence to the contrary,


Saw Gore on "The daily Show" promoting his book and he was lamenting about how "the government" had the media in it's pocket and the Internet was the only reliable source of information.

That's just preposterous.......the Internet is perhaps the lone balanced source of information on his AGW boondoggle. Meanwhile the MSM is in Gore's pocket.

   



BarbaraWoodson @ Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:56 am

I agree with Al Gore.

Why do reason,logic and truth seem to play a sharply
diminished role in the way America now makes important
decisions?

These days,people often don't do research to back up what they
are saying.

Technology as a whole has made us lazy.

   



Freakinoldguy @ Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:47 pm

sasquatch2 sasquatch2:
Title of Al Gore's new book......

He comes up with such great titles.........

$1:
"Why do reason, logic and truth seem to play a sharply diminished role in the way America now makes important decisions?" The persistent and sustained reliance on falsehoods as the basis of policy, even in the face of massive and well-understood evidence to the contrary,


Saw Gore on "The daily Show" promoting his book and he was lamenting about how "the government" had the media in it's pocket and the Internet was the only reliable source of information.

That's just preposterous.......the Internet is perhaps the lone balanced source of information on his AGW boondoggle. Meanwhile the MSM is in Gore's pocket.


Screw Al Gore. The man is out to make money, nothing else. It's easy to see why he'd say

"the Internet was the only reliable source of information"

since in one of his previous forays into fame, fortune and popularity he actually had the lack of mental acumen to claim he invented it.

Either way I can't take anything a multi millionaire, jet setting, carbon credit trader says seriously.

It's like Bill Gates telling you computers are evil.

   



fire_i @ Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:10 pm

The thing I like about Al Gore is that he brings public interest to the environement and global warming.

The thing I dislike about Al Gore is that he burries every serious info concerning global warming under a mile of exaggerations and bloated claims.

   



BarbaraWoodson @ Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:27 pm

Agreed Fire_I.

Whether you like Al Gore or not,he does bring much needed
awareness to the environment and global warming.

Although some people might disagree with me,I really
feel Al Gore was quite deserving of winning a Nobel Peace Prize.

   



sasquatch2 @ Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:09 pm

Meanwhile the Pope has labeled AGW as a "flawed ideology."

   



sandorski @ Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:06 pm

Gore is right and when he talks about "assault on Reason" he's practically looking right at you Sasq.

   



N_Fiddledog @ Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:14 pm

BarbaraWoodson BarbaraWoodson:
Agreed Fire_I.

Whether you like Al Gore or not,he does bring much needed
awareness to the environment and global warming.

Although some people might disagree with me,I really
feel Al Gore was quite deserving of winning a Nobel Peace Prize.


I disagree Barbara. Al Gore no more invented climate change hysteria, than he invented the internet. He happened to be in the right place in the right time to profit from it.

Coming doom from climate change is nothing new. There have been media campaigns of climate hysteria for over a hundred years - both for warming and cooling.

In fact there's this fascinating and well researched article on them HERE.

I don't know if you'll click the link though, so I'll just tell you this one story from the article. It's the story of the French penguin. Have you heard it before?

In 1922 they were worried about global cooling. They were sending explorers to the poles to count icebergs, and freaking about the advancing glaciers. Suddenly the coast of France had a new visitor. A penguin swam up to shore and waddled about until captured. It was gigantic worldwide news, and made the front page of the New York Times described as a harbinger of the coming ice age.

What most likely happened though was the little guy escaped from the ship of polar explorer Sir Ernest Shackleton.

OK, but wait a minute. I actually have a point. To me Al Gore deserved a Nobel Peace Prize about as much as that French penguin did. In fact, to me, the only difference between Gore and the penguin is Gore got rich. The penguin, those Frenchies most likely made into soup.

   



sasquatch2 @ Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:20 pm

Yes for over a century the media has attempted to incite hysteria over recuring climate change. Alternating between hysteria over cooling or warming.

The difference is that this time they finally honed their public relations to an exact science rather than a bumbling art form.

The only true science of AGW is the opinion manipulation.

   



N_Fiddledog @ Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:59 pm

Speaking of fascinating articles, I just read one from the New York Times. It taught me a new term. - "availability cascade".

"Slow warming doesn’t make for memorable images on television or in people’s minds, so activists, journalists and scientists have looked to hurricanes, wild fires and starving polar bears instead. They have used these images to start an “availability cascade,” a term coined by Timur Kuran, a professor of economics and law at the University of Southern California, and Cass R. Sunstein, a law professor at the University of Chicago.

The availability cascade is a self-perpetuating process: the more attention a danger gets, the more worried people become, leading to more news coverage and more fear. Once the images of Sept. 11 made terrorism seem a major threat, the press and the police lavished attention on potential new attacks and supposed plots. After Three Mile Island and “The China Syndrome,” minor malfunctions at nuclear power plants suddenly became newsworthy.

“Many people concerned about climate change,” Dr. Sunstein says, “want to create an availability cascade by fixing an incident in people’s minds. Hurricane Katrina is just an early example; there will be others. I don’t doubt that climate change is real and that it presents a serious threat, but there’s a danger that any ‘consensus’ on particular events or specific findings is, in part, a cascade.”

Once a cascade is under way, it becomes tough to sort out risks because experts become reluctant to dispute the popular wisdom, and are ignored if they do. Now that the melting Arctic has become the symbol of global warming, there’s not much interest in hearing other explanations of why the ice is melting — or why the globe’s other pole isn’t melting, too..."


and this is the way the article signs off.

$1:
“In the last few months,” Mr. Gore said, “it has been harder and harder to misinterpret the signs that our world is spinning out of kilter.” But he was being too modest. Thanks to availability entrepreneurs like him, misinterpreting the weather is getting easier and easier.


In 2008, a 100 Percent Chance of Alarm

   



ryan29 @ Tue Jan 01, 2008 6:09 pm

sasquatch2 sasquatch2:
Title of Al Gore's new book......

He comes up with such great titles.........

$1:
"Why do reason, logic and truth seem to play a sharply diminished role in the way America now makes important decisions?" The persistent and sustained reliance on falsehoods as the basis of policy, even in the face of massive and well-understood evidence to the contrary,


Saw Gore on "The daily Show" promoting his book and he was lamenting about how "the government" had the media in it's pocket and the Internet was the only reliable source of information.

That's just preposterous.......the Internet is perhaps the lone balanced source of information on his AGW boondoggle. Meanwhile the MSM is in Gore's pocket.



agree the media loves al gore and has jumped on board with his cause and gave him lots of free press on this issue. and most of the media has totally gone agaisnt american governemnt on this issue . al gore need not worry about the media .

   



romanP @ Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:55 am

sasquatch2 sasquatch2:
Meanwhile the Pope has labeled AGW as a "flawed ideology."


The Pope commenting on global warming is about as useful as asking a dentist about how to get rid of athlete's foot.

   



mtbr @ Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:03 am

romanP romanP:
sasquatch2 sasquatch2:
Meanwhile the Pope has labeled AGW as a "flawed ideology."


The Pope commenting on global warming is about as useful as asking a dentist about how to get rid of athlete's foot.



Al Gore commenting on global warming is about as useful as tits on a bull.

   



BartSimpson @ Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:24 am

sandorski sandorski:
Gore is right


ROTFL [stupid]

   



N_Fiddledog @ Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:17 pm

romanP romanP:
sasquatch2 sasquatch2:
Meanwhile the Pope has labeled AGW as a "flawed ideology."


The Pope commenting on global warming is about as useful as asking a dentist about how to get rid of athlete's foot.


I'm not sure Sasq isn't hyperbolizing on what the Pope said a bit, anyway.

To me it sounded like the Pope was saying something more like he thought the world would be wiser to make sure they had considered all the science before they rushed into programs possibly more damaging than what they sought to cure. Also he seemed to think if would be a mistake to base actions on a kind of self-hating program of nature over industry at the expense of the poor just on principle.

Having said that though, I think the Pope's opinion does have significance, based on its influence, and does suggest a ripple in the suggested worldwide consensus.

Not that it matters, but didn't I read somewhere the Pope is a science fan?

   



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