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How bigoted do you have to be to be that "French"?
some idiot in quebec does not know all languages are "dynamic"? as in ever evolving. but I guess on the island of quebec things dont operate the way they do all over the rest of the world. and with the evolution of the internet , modern entertainment industry, how long do they think they're little island of French is going to last?

   

"Cinderella" is an anglicised name for the original German fairy-tale character Aschenputtel (Asche-ash/sounds nicer as "cinder")... just as Snow White comes from Schneewittchen, Little Red Riding Hood is Rotkappchen... so they're not doing anything there that the English haven't done already most films have their names changed in different areas...

but yes, the rest of the crap about renaming towns and streets is BS... they DO realise I hope that many Scots and English settled there after the battles and grew there with the city... I mean, why change the name of the street McGill is on, when McGill itself is a British name?! unless they want to change it to
Fils-du-Gilles or some such nonesense

   

SOrry Prax, I'll fight to keep the Maritimes over Quebec, I love the Maritimes and coinsider myself a down-homer despite having only been there for a part of my life

   

To prove your point notice the differences between NB french and PQ french, then take 1 person from each province and put them in France for a day.

   

Generally speaking about Canada, I would agree..... But considering the possibility if and when Quebec separates, many in the Maritimes have been looking over their options for a number of decades now. If the Maritimes were seen as the lazy money suckers I'm generally told by many in the west right now.... I imagine being completely separated from the rest of the country would divide us from the rest of Canada on a number of issues even further and the chances of us staying with Canada is very slim, to none.



Once again, generally speaking of Canada, I would have to agree.

But there is no thirst simply because there is no opportunity. If the UK had the opportunity to have the majority of the Atlantic Coast back as their resources and territory, along with having their own controlled territory for ships and aircraft to land on, without having to deal with other nation's border issues right off the bat would also be more compelling then some may think.

Then travel and trade would be a lot more open and easier for them in the Americas then it currently is.... and vice versa. We'd have an easier way of getting from the Americas to the UK and the rest of Europe..... and our docks, airports, everything is already and willing to go.

If the federal government is going to continue to put all the jobs and money into the oil sands and the rest of the west, then I'm sure we could find other nations more interested in this area for development, jobs and trade.

Our first sign of our divide should have been the vote in of the NDP in the last prov. elections, as many are way too damn sick and tired of being screwed over by the Liberals and Conservatives. Most I talk to consider them as Western Focused parties.

But there's also the option of becoming our own nation.... or join Greenland, lol.



I never said it currently was... yet. Certainly not on the level as Quebec, but since the last time Quebec put it to a vote, many in the maritimes have been considering their options, esspecially when many in the west figured if Quebec separated we'd just be passed off to the US and become States.

I know that's not many here want to have occur, but it has been a minor movement since the mid-90's to have a backup plan.

Consdiering that Quebec has been shaking their stick on and off for so long now, along with Cape Breton of all places wanting to be their own province from Nova Scotia.... seperation is a very common topic in one form or another and to think we'd just allow the rest of Canada to decide what happens to us if and when Quebec seperates, seems a tad short sighted.

The Atlantica Party:
http://www.atlanticaparty.ca/Home.html

Here's some Booga Booga stuff from The Council of Canadians in regards to the Atlantica plans of joining the maritime provinces together along with south-eastern Quebec, north-estern New England and upper New York:

Help us sink Atlantica
http://www.canadians.org/DI/issues/atlantica/

Other related news:

New Brunswick and Maine support international energy corridor
http://www.aims.ca/atlantica.asp?typeID ... 8&fd=0&p=1

Building up the market and trade amongst each province and nearby state is the first step to ensure a secure departure if needed.

It'd be unwise to start rambling about separating from the rest of Canada without covering our own arses.



Separation Party of Alberta:
http://www.separationalberta.com/
^ Not the only provinces talking about separating.

Is Newfoundland eyeing sovereignty role
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blog ... -role.aspx

You Vote - Newfoundland Separation
http://www.rantandroar.ca/Vote.htm

The thing is that the talk has been started for some time now, and there's not much to quell the discussions. There sure hasn't been much to improve anybody's desire to stay in Canada.... it either remains the same level or get's worse each year that goes by.



The thing is that I'm not really trying to compare. Do we need to complain and complain for centuries like Quebec and do nothing about it before the same level of concern occurs?

No, because nobody really gives a damn. In regards to the whole quebec separation thing, we're expendable as it goes for provinces in this nation.

The Maritimes joined the Confederation figuring it'd be a good idea, and Newfoundland shortly after. Canada was created from the Maritimes, the Maritimes used to be the big boom area, everything had to come from here in order to reach the rest of the land. Then the tracks were built and everybody started developing, growing, immigrating out west.... and that trend never really stopped. And while all the funding and development went out west, we were left with our d*cks flapping in the breeze as our own development slowed and then pretty well halted.

Then while everybody else is getting all the work and development, we're left to fix the problems we were left with, eventually turning into a have not.

We figured joining with Canada would benefit us, only for idiots like the Liberals and Cons screwing us our of our own resources and agreements to leave us with a few bones to chew on, while Harper runs off to put the money the got from us out west.

Among a long history of other things.

And it's not getting any better.



I'd also agree on that.... but all i'm saying is once they leave "You" in peace, we're once again left trying to figure out wtf we're going to do.... thus the best options on the table so far is to separate as well.

The question is how we'll do it.

   

Could not possibly care less. Keep the names, lose the names whatever. Just stop your Frenchy-poo snivelling already.

   

Who'd have known this would be the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back? A century and a half of a shakey union finally torn asunder by a beef over street names.

   

They don't want to change street names like McGill or Peel. But francisize others like McGill College (Avenue du Collège McGill) or University (de l'Université).

Some others are just for historical purposes (Amherst, Wolfe)

   

Have to agree with the gist here. The region who gained the least from confederation and lost the most was cetainly the Atlantic provinces, imo.

   

I have a feeling City council of Montreal will pass on this motion and rather focus resources on more pressing issues. Like collapsing bridges and parts of buildings falling from structures killing people.

But hey if an ê is more important, knock themselves out.

   

This has been a reality since 1976. Gradual elimination of English names. In their consolidation of municipalities, they merged a number across from Ottawa. Obvious name would have been to retain the principal city, Hull. Instead they called it Gatineau.

At one time there was a Wolfe Street in Montreal. I guess by now it's gone.

   

No it's still there but they changed Dorchester Street to René-Lévesque until the limit of Westmount.

   

Ok, we'll send the most hardcore separatists, waving their Patriotes flag and chanting ''Vive le Quebec Libre'' to your backyard.

   

Quebec could not afford to leave as we hold up their finances for them . They would not have enough left after you pull out the military and the fed government jobs

   

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