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Wow some of you have the victim convicted and he's the one dead.

How does the dead victim having 61 outstanding warrants against him justify Bryant's actions?

Technically, Bryant left the scene of an accident. It doesn't matter that he stopped at that hotel down the street, he still left the scene of an accident.

Where are the marks on Bryant indicating there was any assault on him?

Accident investigators will be able to determine what speed Bryant was driving. My bet is that it was over the speed limit as witnesses have implied.

I don't "have it in" for Bryant, what I want to see is an even playing field.

Why was Bryant released from jail without a bail hearing? If it were you or I, we'd still be languishing in a cell.

Now there's a special prosecutor on the case from - guess where? B.C.! Bryant's home province. How sweet.

Just like I don't blame the rape victim, I also don't blame the dead man in this situation. Nobody knows exactly what transpired between the two at the outset. Some have said Bryant hit the guy and damaged his bike, then the guy went up to Bryant.

If that's true, that isn't going to be reported by Bryant's lawyers that's for sure.

The media and some of you here are demonizing the victim, which is wrong. Bryant is the one who had the weapon, a 2,000+ pound vehicle. Bryant is the one who should have stopped but didn't. Bryant is the one who jumped curbs sideswiping a mailbox, poles and a tree. Bryant is the one who was driving on the wrong side of the street.

The victim is dead. His children no longer have a father. Please have some respect for his memory and for his children.

   

You have a couple of good points...

   

Justified? I don't know about justifying anything but if some maniac was attacking me I'd understand doing the same thing. If the dude hadn't have jumped on the car and held on forever out of pure rage and a need to assault someone he wouldn't be dead right now would he?


Are you going to play victim for him? Yeah he has children....so what's he doing picking fights with homeless people, spending his week nights out drunk and on the road...grabbing onto cars and drivers he figures cut him off....? At the moment it seems to me like he was a tragedy waiting to happen.

   

You're right and I was wrong.

   

I don't know where some of you live but in Toronto, couriers are well known for ignoring the traffic laws and being belligerent. This unfortunate victim fits the mold of the average courier rider. Those of you watching local TV in the GTA last night could not help but see and open display of thuggery from some of the 'mourners' there blocking Bloor with impunity.

Rightly or wrongly, the criminal past and the fact that the victim was an alcoholic with an alleged narcotic dependency, plus that he was ejected from his girlfriends apartment, drunk, an hour earlier by police, will not endear his status as an innocent victim to a jury.

Personally, I'm no fan of Bryant.
Another rich guy with a sense of political entitlement just because he could afford to go to law school at Harvard.

But lets put the very petty 'car bad- bike good' argument to one side and try and look at this logically.

Toronto is an over crowded city with clogged roads. The taxi drivers drive like arse-holes, the tourists driving down-town are a danger to themselves and others. We also have a particular brand of ‘couriers’ who disregard all the provisions of the Highway Traffic Act and menace anybody, car driver or pedestrian who gets in their way. They use threats and an overtly belligerent attitude as a matter of course throughout their employment day.

This isn’t a job that attracts the upstanding citizen and that should be quite obvious.

   

And from reading your posts you already have Bryant convicted. A bit hypocritical really. Yes he was in a car which a pedestrian/cyclist is no match for on the move but when stationary a car is about as much of a weapon as my shoe add to that the fact that it is a convertible which means even less defence. Bryant was being attacked and it would appear acted in self defence as I would not hesitate in doing also. I'm sure more details will come out in the wash.

   

So refreshing to see someone here actually admit they're wrong.

Good for you Lemmy.

   

Oh so now the victim was a "maniac"????

If he assaulted Bryant, how is it that Bryant has no discernable marks on him, did not need any medical treatment, and is walking around today in the same physical shape he was in last week?

Why was Bryant release without a bail hearing? Why wasn't he charged with leaving the scene of an accident? What makes him so special that there's a special law just for him?


If the victim were alive, those 61 outstanding warrants totally unrelated to this situation would not be admissable in any court. That's because in regards to this situation, they are irrelevant and inflammatory. The media has reported on those to bias the sheeple.

Bryant has children as well. Was he thinking of his own children while he was driving like a maniac along Bloor, side swiping a mailbox, poles and a tree?

Let's see what the accident investigators say about speed. Let's hear what the actual witnesses have to say.

While Bryant 's second phone call was to a public relations firm to get the spin going in high gear, the family of the dead victim is arranging for and paying for his funeral.

   

Admittedly I am no fan of Bryant, the nut who convicted innocent pitbulls across Ontario and sentenced them to death.

That said, it doesn't matter to me who the driver of that car was - he was in the wrong, he broke numerous laws, and his actions resulted in the death of a young man. Bryant's car wasn't stationary, it was moving.

If the driver of the car had been any one of us here, we would be crucified in the press, not the victim, and would have had more charges filed against us. We would never have been released without a bail hearing either.

The reality of two sets of laws is very wrong.

   

Because he didn't.

Oh look! All of a sudden you know he was 'driving like a maniac' but the guy who was drunk, fighting with a homeless man just minutes earlier, fighting with his girlfriend before that until she had to phone the police, oh no!!! He's not a maniac.

The facts we know so far do not match your description of events, in fact they haven't matched once with what you say.

I see. If someone jumps on your car trying to assault you, potentially try to kill you, you're legally bound to stop. Well, that may be true but it's not practical. I'm betting a jury isn't going to see it that way either.

   

While I can agree with some of your points and yes i know his car was moving but not when the incident began, you cannot say for definate that Bryant is in the wrong either. At the end of the day there are only 2 people who know exactly what happened and one of them is dead. No one else will know what went through Bryant's mind at the time.

As far as I'm concerned if he believed his life was in immediate danger then he did the right thing. If not then he was wrong. Simple

Just on a side Pitbulls are banned in the UK under the dangerous dogs act along with any pitbull variant.

   

Friendly pitbulls and courteous couriers in Toronto. Somebody needs a reality check.

How about friendly pitbulls, maybe a bit drunk, becoming couriers?

   

Needs something, that's for sure.

   

Everyone has a safe distance.

you can't even provoke a pitbull from a mile away.

   

Maybe a bit further, like 20 ft.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x4rjBzakCY

   

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