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kal @ Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:26 pm

People not informing their partners of their HIV status can now be charged with sexual assault.

And smoking pot isn't a mistake. It's a choice. You make a bad choice, you live with the consequences.

   



SupportingOurTroops @ Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:40 pm

Since you would like to literalize the word " Choice "

"mistake"

mistake n

1. an incorrect, unwise, or unfortunate act or decision caused by bad judgment or a lack of information or care

2. something in a piece of work that is incorrect, for example, a misspelling or a misprint

3. a misunderstanding of something

vt

1. to misunderstand or misinterpret something

2. to identify somebody or something incorrectly or fail to recognize somebody or something

3. to choose something incorrectly or injudiciously

Another question? If a Civilian were to be fined when he was 16 with being in posession of a joint, and is now a Canadian Soldier ( at lets say 30 ) Should he be allowed to leave the Country on a mission?

OK, now I'm done. :-)

   



kal @ Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:47 pm

Very good, you can copy from a dictionary. This supports your argument how? It doesn't change the fact that the choice, be it a bad one, was still illegal.

   



SupportingOurTroops @ Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:51 pm

It supports my arguement that you refer to a mistake and a choice as 2 different things.

Another question? If a Civilian were to be fined when he was 16 with being in posession of a joint, and is now a Canadian Soldier ( at lets say 30 ) Should he be allowed to leave the Country on a mission?

   



kal @ Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:57 pm

SupportingOurTroops SupportingOurTroops:
It supports my arguement that you refer to a mistake and a choice as 2 different things.

Another question? If a Civilian were to be fined when he was 16 with being in posession of a joint, and is now a Canadian Soldier ( at lets say 30 ) Should he be allowed to leave the Country on a mission?


When he was 16 it was erased from his/her record when they were 18. But that's semantics. :P

The point I'm trying to make is that it doesn't matter what you think should happen. It's law, and they broke the law. If you break a law, you suffer the consequences.

   



SupportingOurTroops @ Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:08 pm

I understand your point, and in the end you are absolutely right. It just doesn't make sense at 17 you pay the consequence for a year, and at 18 the rest of your life. There's not much difference in knowing right from wrong from 17-18.

   



kal @ Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:19 pm

SupportingOurTroops SupportingOurTroops:
I understand your point, and in the end you are absolutely right. It just doesn't make sense at 17 you pay the consequence for a year, and at 18 the rest of your life. There's not much difference in knowing right from wrong from 17-18.


Maybe not, but you have to draw the line somewhere. At age 17 kids should have a pretty good idea of what is illegal and what isn't.

   



tritium @ Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:24 am

SupportingOurTroops SupportingOurTroops:
So is speeding, should we be banned from going outside our Country? Law is law, right?


:roll:

people with felonies are being excluded. traffic ticket is not a felony.

   



Mr_Canada old @ Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:29 am

We are now following America's Fascist little NOBODY ENTERS MY COUNTRY policy?

I bet people are starting to feel that North America really ISN'T the land of freedom and opportunity, when they can't even get in it because they had a god damn DUI.

Fucking Extremist World..... Fear those who arn't from your country!

So I guess I won't be leaving.

   



Mr_Canada old @ Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:32 am

I find it hilarious that if you speed, ever, you can't come Canada. Overkill.

Stupid, stupid fucking paranoid people.

   



tritium @ Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:07 am

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
I find it hilarious that if you speed, ever, you can't come Canada. Overkill.

Stupid, stupid fucking paranoid people.


it's hilarious that you are such a moron. :roll:

people with felonies are being excluded. a traffic ticket is not a felony.

So people who smoked pot or have done drugs, break and enter, fraud, assualt, these types of offences that are being excluded. I mean, do we want harden criminals coming to Canada anyhow.

If they commit crimes in Canada, and we have to house them in our prisions at tax payers expenses. Better off just stop them at the border, and send them back.

No, people who have a speeding ticket, or J-walking are still allowed to visit Canada. Anyone who says different has lost the arguement and is just grasping at straws.

   



Almighty1 @ Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:29 am

I moved to the U.S. from Canada last year after marrying my wife (a U.S. Citizen). Having a prior criminal record form 12 years ago made the move very difficult. I hired an immigration lawyer, paid a ton of money, and got it all handled. It took 2 years + and a trip to the U.S. consulate in Montreal (which was great-cause theres never a bad time to party in Montreal) and now finally I am a permanent resident of the U.S. although I still work in Canada. My proximity to the border here in Ontario (Windsor/Detroit) allows me much leeway in this regard.

Anyone with questions-that may be going thru a similar process can feel free to pm me. I consider myself a pro at this stuff now.

   



tritium @ Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:37 am

Almighty1 Almighty1:
I moved to the U.S. from Canada last year after marrying my wife (a U.S. Citizen). Having a prior criminal record form 12 years ago made the move very difficult. I hired an immigration lawyer, paid a ton of money, and got it all handled. It took 2 years + and a trip to the U.S. consulate in Montreal (which was great-cause theres never a bad time to party in Montreal) and now finally I am a permanent resident of the U.S. although I still work in Canada. My proximity to the border here in Ontario (Windsor/Detroit) allows me much leeway in this regard.

Anyone with questions-that may be going thru a similar process can feel free to pm me. I consider myself a pro at this stuff now.


It's called a waiver card and any U.S. immigration attorney can apply for one for you. It just protects both Canada and the USA from allowing undesirables unfettered access to their country.

I will drop a name, if anyone wants to immigrate to the USA, contact:

Leibl and Kirkwood Immigration Attorneys - They are located in Del Mar, California, and both are Canadian citizens. :wink:

They are both extreamly proficient in their trade.

   



Almighty1 @ Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:44 am

Actually it's called a Permanent resident card aka "green card" or I-551. I don't know what this waiver is but this is not it. I have a Social security number as well-enabling me to work in the U.S. and vote. As I said before-a very difficult process, but so it should be given what is at stake for the countries involved.

The law firm I used in Windsor, On. was Hulka Porter LLP. they have offices in Windsor, On. as well as Detroit, MI.

link to their site: www.hulkaporterimmigration.com

   



tritium @ Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:08 pm

Almighty1 Almighty1:
Actually it's called a Permanent resident card aka "green card" or I-551. I don't know what this waiver is but this is not it. I have a Social security number as well-enabling me to work in the U.S. and vote. As I said before-a very difficult process, but so it should be given what is at stake for the countries involved.

The law firm I used in Windsor, On. was Hulka Porter LLP. they have offices in Windsor, On. as well as Detroit, MI.

link to their site: www.hulkaporterimmigration.com


The green card I-551 is what you get when you are a resident.

If you have a criminal conviction in Canada and have been excluded from the states for whatever reason, you apply for a waiver.

Even BEFORE you get a I-551, you still have to apply for a waiver prior to getting your green card.

This has been the same for the last 20 years.

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^ makes you wonder why they call it a green card. :wink:

As far as the new laws just implimented in Canada, it's only reciprocal to what the USA has had for 20 years.

Canada is now bringing it's immigration in line with the United States, and it's about fucking time :!:

Canadian border guards need to be able to carry guns now.

Anything to protect our borders better, I am for.

   



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