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I'm definitely not pro-monarchy, but I still like the sound of the RCAF and RCN better than the crap names they had been given.
And why not bring back their original names? We kept the royal connection in the army with The RHLI, The PPCLI, The RCR, The Royal New Brunswick Regiment, The Royal Newfoundland Regiment, The RCA/ARC, The Royal 22e Regiment, Princess Louise's 8th Canadian Hussars, The RCAC, Lord Strathcona's Horse, Queen's Own Rifles, The RHR, Princess Mary's Canadian Scottish Regiment, The Princess Louise Fusiliers, The Princess of Wales Own Regiment, The Queen’s Own Cameron Highlanders of Canada, The Royal Canadian Dragoons, The Royal Canadian Hussars, The Royal Highland Fusiliers of Canada, The Royal Montreal Regiment, The Royal Regiment of Canada, The Royal Regina Rifles, The Royal Westminster Regiment, The Royal Winnipeg Rifles, Toronto Scottish Regiment (Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mothers Own), and I may have missed one or two.

So, I don't really see the issue with renaming our navy the RCN and our airforce the RCAF again.

   

So what? I think you're missing the point. It's not about Britain or Mother Britain mentality. It's about Royalty. Canada is a monarchy. Monarchy equals royalty. Canada is a monarchy, a royal state and her military and police forces are royal forces. If the youth of today and tomorrow don't recognize the value of monarchy and royalty then it's bloody well time to have it brought back home to them and be slapped damned hard upside the head with it. And so should you be.

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taiwan is only a pussy hair bigger than Vancouver Island and there are 23 million living here.......and they are all crowded into slightly more than 1/7 of the island, as the rest of it is mountains.

   

Well said.


-J.

   

And said monarchy is the British royal family...as in, connected to the "Mother Britain" mentality. Now, certainly most people would prefer Canada's interests being secured by the Canadian government, and not some re-affiliation with the British Empire, but to a lot of people, the monarchy is just a leftover to Canada's colonial past.



Wait, what value? Outside of the whole "It's tradition!" aspect, there is no real conceivable benefit to the monarchy in my eyes, and to the eyes of many others. I can accept people saying the monarchy is a tradition, with no need to remove it, which is perfectly acceptable, but saying it has "value" is a stretch to my imagination.

If you want to try to slap the upside of my head, please tell me how the monarchy has value?

   

Still in Victoria.

   

And said monarchy, as in the Queen, is our head of state, connected to our collective history. This isn't some "re-affiliation with the British Empire" it's a nod to Canada's military heritage, the ones of WWII and Korea, and in a organization that clearly respects tradition and history, how is this problematic?

Maybe those that see the monarchy as a "leftover to Canada's colonial past" need a quick refresher in recent history. Since 1926 Imperial Conference (and it earlier under the Imperial War Cabinet) through to Westminster and on to the Constitutional Act, Canada has remained an independent nation all the while its fighting forces fought under the "royal" moniker (well, not in 1982) and this to many, is a recognition of the military's proud past.

   

It sort of boggles the mind that some people have a hard time grasping the idea that tradition plays a large role in the military.....all militaries. What's next, getting rid of pipe and drum bands from all branches of the military, fire and police, because they are part of our imperial past?

   

I was totally surprised by Jack Granatstein in this article in today's National Post - he's adamantly against using the Royal moniker for our air force and navy.

   

   

history and tradition has a strong pull on us. look at Europe. How many times over the past 1500 years have they tried to rebuild the unity that they had under Rome....and each group that tried, compared themselves to Rome and yearned for its lost glories. The Imperial Eagle(both one and two headed) is still a powerful symbol.

   

That is surprising, considering Granatstein's stance on many matters concerning military heritage.

   

Complete waste of money.

   

How's it a waste of money?

   

And said monarchy, as in the Queen, is a relic of Canada's colonial past under the British Empire? Being our head of state up until today is because of our colonial past.



And? Once again, I understand that it was traditional to have the royal moniker for the military, but some traditions should adapt and change to reflect the growing reality of Canada being more than a British subject, with its inhabitants descending from more places other than the British Isles. If this is a move to please veterans, then alright, but moves like this aren't healthy for Canada, in my humble opinion.

   

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