Canadians see their country as corrupt
Newsbot @ Sun May 24, 2009 11:27 am
Title: Canadians see their country as corrupt
Category: Political
Posted By: ridenrain
Date: 2009-05-24 10:34:16
Canadian
Bacardi4206 @ Sun May 24, 2009 11:27 am
I have no doubt Canada is a very un-corrupt country which you can very much see by our history. There has never been a 'me' for Canadian History. It's always a act of helping others.
However I suspect this constant hatred of corruption and suspicion is what keeps politicians clean.
That's just my guess however.
travior @ Sun May 24, 2009 11:32 am
$1:
Professor finds many of us believe crooks lurk in judiciary, politics
And a professor is going to be a reliable, unbiased source of information???
Please...
All countries' governments are corrupt, some more so than others (the US for example). You cannot let that be a reflection of the people as a whole.
novachick @ Sun May 24, 2009 11:47 am
There is corruption in everything. Canada is not exempt from this politically or otherwise. The only variable is the level of corruption.
Proculation @ Sun May 24, 2009 12:06 pm
I guess that the Mulroney/Schreiber case and the Chretien era have a lot to do with those results. I don't think we have a corrupt system. But the more the government is involved in our life, that's sure the more it will be "corrupt".
Thanos @ Sun May 24, 2009 12:32 pm
Every country has a few Joe Volpe's in the closet. It's human nature and very little can be done to prevent it.
Proculation @ Sun May 24, 2009 12:48 pm
Power rhymes with corruption. That's always been and will always be (something like that)
ridenrain @ Sun May 24, 2009 1:19 pm
We've had examples of corruption at the very top levels and I think the PMO has far too much power. The RCMP has also been under suspicion for quite a while and could also use a big cleaning.
Proculation @ Sun May 24, 2009 1:25 pm
I'm with you with that ridenrain.
We are quite centralized here in Canada. We should decentralize more. Horizontally.
Maybe give more power to the head of state ? (by that I mean the GG not the Queen)
poquas @ Sun May 24, 2009 1:28 pm
Considering that three of the most current Prime Ministers have been implicated in some way of doing things that at best show very poor judgement so it’s no surprise the corruption cloud shadows so much of our governments.
Mulroney I have no doubt was crooked. Cretien was never charged, but I can believe the same of him. Harper’s little “oops” over trying to buy Cadman indicates he’s no better.
Politics has become a game for crooks and thieves only out for themselves.
ridenrain @ Sun May 24, 2009 4:59 pm
Might be crap like this that gives the professor some proof?
$1:
There are about 350 JPs in Ontario. They perform an essential role in our justice system. They hear applications for search warrants, handle most bail hearings, issue arrest warrants and preside over by-law, highway traffic, environmental, occupational health and safety offences. In doing so, they may impose fines and prison sentences.
While much of what they do is mundane, they have the power to impact on our most cherished rights, including the right to liberty and to be free from unreasonable search and seizure.
So why is it most JPs have no formal legal training? A JP need only have performed paid or volunteer work for at least 10 years and have a degree, diploma or some equivalency based on "life experience".
In a list of 11 JPs appointed in May, 2007 only two were lawyers, neither with expertise in criminal law.
The balance included a businessman, a human resources manager, a newspaper editor and a former member of the Ontario legislature. While an advisory committee screens candidates, the Ontario Attorney-General makes the final decision, leaving open the possibility of patronage appointments.
A former aide to former Liberal premier David Peterson was recently appointed.
While much of what they do is mundane, they have the power to impact on our most cherished rights, including the right to liberty and to be free from unreasonable search and seizure.
So why is it most JPs have no formal legal training? A JP need only have performed paid or volunteer work for at least 10 years and have a degree, diploma or some equivalency based on "life experience".
In a list of 11 JPs appointed in May, 2007 only two were lawyers, neither with expertise in criminal law.
The balance included a businessman, a human resources manager, a newspaper editor and a former member of the Ontario legislature. While an advisory committee screens candidates, the Ontario Attorney-General makes the final decision, leaving open the possibility of patronage appointments.
A former aide to former Liberal premier David Peterson was recently appointed.
http://www.torontosun.com/comment/colum ... 6-sun.html
Wally_Sconce @ Sun May 24, 2009 5:35 pm
It is naive to think that the corruption in the past decades that allowed organized crime to prosper is somehow gone from our society.
poquas @ Sun May 24, 2009 6:47 pm
ridenrain ridenrain:
Might be crap like this that gives the professor some proof?
http://www.torontosun.com/comment/colum ... 6-sun.html
$1:
There are about 350 JPs in Ontario. They perform an essential role in our justice system. They hear applications for search warrants, handle most bail hearings, issue arrest warrants and preside over by-law, highway traffic, environmental, occupational health and safety offences. In doing so, they may impose fines and prison sentences.
While much of what they do is mundane, they have the power to impact on our most cherished rights, including the right to liberty and to be free from unreasonable search and seizure.
So why is it most JPs have no formal legal training? A JP need only have performed paid or volunteer work for at least 10 years and have a degree, diploma or some equivalency based on "life experience".
In a list of 11 JPs appointed in May, 2007 only two were lawyers, neither with expertise in criminal law.
The balance included a businessman, a human resources manager, a newspaper editor and a former member of the Ontario legislature. While an advisory committee screens candidates, the Ontario Attorney-General makes the final decision, leaving open the possibility of patronage appointments.
A former aide to former Liberal premier David Peterson was recently appointed.
While much of what they do is mundane, they have the power to impact on our most cherished rights, including the right to liberty and to be free from unreasonable search and seizure.
So why is it most JPs have no formal legal training? A JP need only have performed paid or volunteer work for at least 10 years and have a degree, diploma or some equivalency based on "life experience".
In a list of 11 JPs appointed in May, 2007 only two were lawyers, neither with expertise in criminal law.
The balance included a businessman, a human resources manager, a newspaper editor and a former member of the Ontario legislature. While an advisory committee screens candidates, the Ontario Attorney-General makes the final decision, leaving open the possibility of patronage appointments.
A former aide to former Liberal premier David Peterson was recently appointed.
http://www.torontosun.com/comment/colum ... 6-sun.html
So what?
It's either the way it is or it should be stopped. It's the same for what ever political pary is running the show at that particular time. Much like the senate (which was supposed to be reformed........... remember?)
ridenrain @ Sun May 24, 2009 7:14 pm
So corruption is acceptable as long as Harper isn't in power?
poquas @ Sun May 24, 2009 7:15 pm
ridenrain ridenrain:
So corruption is acceptable as long as Harper isn't in power?
And you think it's ok as long as he is?
