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George Floyd's death sparks protests across U.S.

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DrCaleb @ Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:22 am

Scape Scape:
Twenty bucks. I wonder where it is now or if it was even fake.


We are kind of way past that now. If it was or wasn't, the punishment isn't summary execution by public strangulation.

What we need to see is the video from the time he was calmly walking to the car in cuffs, and when the cop was kneeling on his throat. But I suspect it will be months before that is released, if ever.

   



DrCaleb @ Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:23 am

   



DrCaleb @ Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:26 am

stratos stratos:
$1:
As Trump spoke, an incredible TV split screen developed around the White House. While he addressed the nation in the White House's idyllic Rose Garden, a series of military vehicles rolled out front on Pennsylvania Avenue and military police and law enforcement clashed with protesters at Lafayette Park.



They did not "clash" the police and military police rushed at them and the peaceful (law abiding) protesters ran a block or so as they were being shot by rubber bullets and tear gassed. Trump a few minutes later in his speech declared that he supported peaceful protester. PDT_Armataz_01_32


This is exactly what people like me have been saying for the last 3.5 years. Trump says one thing, and does another.

Sending in MPs to clear a peaceful protest with gas and non-lethal bullets is a funny way of supporting their right to peacefully protest. Rather, it's a good way to stoke the flames of non-peaceful protest.

   



stratos @ Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:27 am

llama66 llama66:
If Trump invokes the Insurrection Act, I fear the outcome. No President has ever invoked that, not even during the '60s with the unrest was as bad as it is now. He should be calling for calm, not drumming up support for more violence. I hope the American voter remembers this come November.


Last time it was used was 28 years ago during the Rodney King riots. Limited scope and limited duration. Only applied to a small area.

This IS NOT what Trump is planning to do.

   



DrCaleb @ Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:45 am

stratos stratos:
llama66 llama66:
If Trump invokes the Insurrection Act, I fear the outcome. No President has ever invoked that, not even during the '60s with the unrest was as bad as it is now. He should be calling for calm, not drumming up support for more violence. I hope the American voter remembers this come November.


Last time it was used was 28 years ago during the Rodney King riots. Limited scope and limited duration. Only applied to a small area.

This IS NOT what Trump is planning to do.


During the King riots it was requested by the State however. Trump is threatening to do it if the Governors don't act. Different circumstances, but an important difference.

   



llama66 @ Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:55 am

stratos stratos:
llama66 llama66:
If Trump invokes the Insurrection Act, I fear the outcome. No President has ever invoked that, not even during the '60s with the unrest was as bad as it is now. He should be calling for calm, not drumming up support for more violence. I hope the American voter remembers this come November.


Last time it was used was 28 years ago during the Rodney King riots. Limited scope and limited duration. Only applied to a small area.

This IS NOT what Trump is planning to do.

I thought that was the National Guard. I had no idea.

   



raydan @ Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:08 am

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DrCaleb @ Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:14 am

$1:
How to Make this Moment the Turning Point for Real Change

Barack Obama

As millions of people across the country take to the streets and raise their voices in response to the killing of George Floyd and the ongoing problem of unequal justice, many people have reached out asking how we can sustain momentum to bring about real change.

Ultimately, it’s going to be up to a new generation of activists to shape strategies that best fit the times. But I believe there are some basic lessons to draw from past efforts that are worth remembering.

First, the waves of protests across the country represent a genuine and legitimate frustration over a decades-long failure to reform police practices and the broader criminal justice system in the United States. The overwhelming majority of participants have been peaceful, courageous, responsible, and inspiring. They deserve our respect and support, not condemnation — something that police in cities like Camden and Flint have commendably understood.

On the other hand, the small minority of folks who’ve resorted to violence in various forms, whether out of genuine anger or mere opportunism, are putting innocent people at risk, compounding the destruction of neighborhoods that are often already short on services and investment and detracting from the larger cause. I saw an elderly black woman being interviewed today in tears because the only grocery store in her neighborhood had been trashed. If history is any guide, that store may take years to come back. So let’s not excuse violence, or rationalize it, or participate in it. If we want our criminal justice system, and American society at large, to operate on a higher ethical code, then we have to model that code ourselves.

Second, I’ve heard some suggest that the recurrent problem of racial bias in our criminal justice system proves that only protests and direct action can bring about change, and that voting and participation in electoral politics is a waste of time. I couldn’t disagree more. The point of protest is to raise public awareness, to put a spotlight on injustice, and to make the powers that be uncomfortable; in fact, throughout American history, it’s often only been in response to protests and civil disobedience that the political system has even paid attention to marginalized communities. But eventually, aspirations have to be translated into specific laws and institutional practices — and in a democracy, that only happens when we elect government officials who are responsive to our demands.

Moreover, it’s important for us to understand which levels of government have the biggest impact on our criminal justice system and police practices. When we think about politics, a lot of us focus only on the presidency and the federal government. And yes, we should be fighting to make sure that we have a president, a Congress, a U.S. Justice Department, and a federal judiciary that actually recognize the ongoing, corrosive role that racism plays in our society and want to do something about it. But the elected officials who matter most in reforming police departments and the criminal justice system work at the state and local levels.

It’s mayors and county executives that appoint most police chiefs and negotiate collective bargaining agreements with police unions. It’s district attorneys and state’s attorneys that decide whether or not to investigate and ultimately charge those involved in police misconduct. Those are all elected positions. In some places, police review boards with the power to monitor police conduct are elected as well. Unfortunately, voter turnout in these local races is usually pitifully low, especially among young people — which makes no sense given the direct impact these offices have on social justice issues, not to mention the fact that who wins and who loses those seats is often determined by just a few thousand, or even a few hundred, votes.

So the bottom line is this: if we want to bring about real change, then the choice isn’t between protest and politics. We have to do both. We have to mobilize to raise awareness, and we have to organize and cast our ballots to make sure that we elect candidates who will act on reform.

Finally, the more specific we can make demands for criminal justice and police reform, the harder it will be for elected officials to just offer lip service to the cause and then fall back into business as usual once protests have gone away. The content of that reform agenda will be different for various communities. A big city may need one set of reforms; a rural community may need another. Some agencies will require wholesale rehabilitation; others should make minor improvements. Every law enforcement agency should have clear policies, including an independent body that conducts investigations of alleged misconduct. Tailoring reforms for each community will require local activists and organizations to do their research and educate fellow citizens in their community on what strategies work best.

But as a starting point, here’s a report and toolkit developed by the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights and based on the work of the Task Force on 21st Century Policing that I formed when I was in the White House. And if you’re interested in taking concrete action, we’ve also created a dedicated site at the Obama Foundation to aggregate and direct you to useful resources and organizations who’ve been fighting the good fight at the local and national levels for years.

I recognize that these past few months have been hard and dispiriting — that the fear, sorrow, uncertainty, and hardship of a pandemic have been compounded by tragic reminders that prejudice and inequality still shape so much of American life. But watching the heightened activism of young people in recent weeks, of every race and every station, makes me hopeful. If, going forward, we can channel our justifiable anger into peaceful, sustained, and effective action, then this moment can be a real turning point in our nation’s long journey to live up to our highest ideals.

Let’s get to work.


https://medium.com/@BarackObama/how-to- ... a209806067

   



DrCaleb @ Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:39 am

Dallas Police asked public for videos of protesters—it didn’t go well

:lol:

   



Tricks @ Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:16 am

llama66 llama66:
stratos stratos:
llama66 llama66:
If Trump invokes the Insurrection Act, I fear the outcome. No President has ever invoked that, not even during the '60s with the unrest was as bad as it is now. He should be calling for calm, not drumming up support for more violence. I hope the American voter remembers this come November.


Last time it was used was 28 years ago during the Rodney King riots. Limited scope and limited duration. Only applied to a small area.

This IS NOT what Trump is planning to do.

I thought that was the National Guard. I had no idea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_Act_of_1807

It's actually been used a few times.

   



herbie @ Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:28 am

Even my Evangelical sisters are reposting pictures condemning Trump for gassing peaceful protesters to take that picture holding a Bible in front of the church.
The asshole has only ever inflamed people and shown contempt, never once offered any real leadership or shown compassion.

107,000
Trump lies as America dies

   



BartSimpson @ Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:57 am

DrCaleb DrCaleb:
stratos stratos:
I'll speak up on this and then back to just being silent. TO MUCH hate on both sides in to many posts in CKA (reason for my silence).


Sorry bud, I still don't see the hate you see.

People aren't posting here out of hate, but anger at how this man was treated. He may not have been a model citizen, but that doesn't mean he deserved that death.


True. Even PD and myself are in agreement on this one...at least with regards to what happened to George Floyd.

   



xerxes @ Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:20 am

It’s starting to look like the reason sicced the police on the protestors was because his feelings were hurt when he went to go hide in his bunker.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-church-photo-op-in-fury-at-bunker-mockery-reports-2020-6

   



Martin15 @ Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:22 am

Escape From New York... Come Save Us, Snake Plisken !!! :lol: :lol: :lol:


40,000 NYPD.. all of them completely useless.



Trump says New York has been 'lost' to 'thugs and lowlife scum' after looters ransack Fifth Avenue and curfew is brought forward from 11pm to 8pm and extended until the end of the week - but Cuomo and de Blasio STILL refuse to call in the National Guard

Looters on Monday night smashed store fronts along Fifth Avenue, Madison Avenue and Herald Square
The Lego Store in Flatiron was hit as was Nordstrom Rack in Union Square
They grabbed designer stores like Balenciaga but also ransacked Duane Reades and 7 Eleven stores
More than 200 were arrested across the city in a second night of chaos and uncertainty
The 11pm-5am curfew has now been brought forward to start at 8pm on Tuesday to try to stunt the violence
In The Bronx, a cop was run over by a crowd and others were beaten by people in the streets
The officer who was run over is now in a stable condition; he was one of six people - cops and civilians - who were taken to the hospital last night as a result of the chaos
The NYPD would not give a breakdown of how many civilians were hospitalized

   



DrCaleb @ Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:23 am

xerxes xerxes:
It’s starting to look like the reason sicced the police on the protestors was because his feelings were hurt when he went to go hide in his bunker.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-church-photo-op-in-fury-at-bunker-mockery-reports-2020-6


I don't see how Trump would have done anything else. He's known to prefer his steak well done. This is a known personality trait of a person who does not like taking risk. Having buildings burning on all sides of him is a definite risk.

   



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